2022 NBA Draft

[SeattleJazzFan]

The more I watch Davis, the more impressed I am. He’s an elite scorer in the big ten, a true alpha and I just love that he rebounds from that guard/wing spot. He’s tough, strong and athletic and uses it. I wish he were more pure from three, but I think he’ll get to where he’s respectable from three in the league. Top ten guy, IMO.

[Duke4life831]

My issue with Davis is, Im just not sure what role he has in the NBA. His #1 thing is his scoring. Well he isnt that efficient of a scorer. He has a 53 TS% in conference so far. But that gets helped out with his high FTr. His eFG% is only 48%. He isnt much of a facilitator. He isnt a bad athlete, he moves well but he isnt a great one either. He is also playing in a more slower paced Big Ten. I think his athleticism will be viewed as below average to average against other NBA guards.

So like what role are you looking for him to play. He doesnt really have the greatest off ball skill set. And Im not sure he is all that efficient enough of a scorer with all that promising of a jumper.

Compare that to Mathurin. Mathurin looks to be a little longer, he is the better athlete. I think he projects to be the better defender as well. I like the form on his jumper over Davis as well. He is the far more efficient scorer from the field compared to Davis.

Again my thing with Davis is, if he isnt as effective as getting to the line in the NBA. What role are you going to play him in?

[clyde21]

you play him @ the two as your ISO scorer who can defend both guard positions, a very traditional SG prospect

[Duke4life831]

you play him @ the two as your ISO scorer who can defend both guard positions, a very traditional SG prospect

Im just not a fan of his inefficient scoring. If he was a better shooter or a better facilitator I would be higher on him. But that jumper is inconsistent at best and its pretty slow. He also doesn't bring much from a facilitating aspect. Then the fact he isnt the quickest guy or having an elite handle. Im not sure how consistent of a slasher he is going to be at the next level.

Dont get me wrong Im not saying he is undraftable or anything like that. Just not seeing a top 10 pick from him.

[clyde21]

you play him @ the two as your ISO scorer who can defend both guard positions, a very traditional SG prospect

Im just not a fan of his inefficient scoring. If he was a better shooter or a better facilitator I would be higher on him. But that jumper is inconsistent at best and its pretty slow. He also doesn't bring much from a facilitating aspect. Then the fact he isnt the quickest guy or having an elite handle. Im not sure how consistent of a slasher he is going to be at the next level.

Dont get me wrong Im not saying he is undraftable or anything like that. Just not seeing a top 10 pick from him.

well yea, if he was a better shooter/passing chops he'd probably be a top5 guy, that's kinda already priced in?

[Duke4life831]

you play him @ the two as your ISO scorer who can defend both guard positions, a very traditional SG prospect

Im just not a fan of his inefficient scoring. If he was a better shooter or a better facilitator I would be higher on him. But that jumper is inconsistent at best and its pretty slow. He also doesn't bring much from a facilitating aspect. Then the fact he isnt the quickest guy or having an elite handle. Im not sure how consistent of a slasher he is going to be at the next level.

Dont get me wrong Im not saying he is undraftable or anything like that. Just not seeing a top 10 pick from him.

well yea, if he was a better shooter/passing chops he'd probably be a top5 guy, that's kinda already priced in?

Sure but what makes him a lotto pick? Like what traits about him is lotto worthy? Ya he is a solid ISO scorer, but again he doesnt do it at an efficient rate. Im also not sure what areas of that is going to translate all that well against NBA pros. He plays bigger than his size which is good, but nothing too crazy. But he doesnt seem to be great at finishing in traffic, again doesn't have a super dynamic handle or first step.

I dont know Im just meh on him I guess. Like he is a good college player, just not sure Im seeing anything I would want to use a lotto pick on.

[SelfishPlayer]

Johnny Davis is not an impressive guard from an NBA perspective. I'm surprised that he has been in talk as a top 5 pick for so long. He doesn't look like a lock first round NBA draft pick historically. Michael Devoe gave it to him.

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[zimpy27]

My issue with Davis is, Im just not sure what role he has in the NBA. His #1 thing is his scoring. Well he isnt that efficient of a scorer. He has a 53 TS% in conference so far. But that gets helped out with his high FTr. His eFG% is only 48%. He isnt much of a facilitator. He isnt a bad athlete, he moves well but he isnt a great one either. He is also playing in a more slower paced Big Ten. I think his athleticism will be viewed as below average to average against other NBA guards.

So like what role are you looking for him to play. He doesnt really have the greatest off ball skill set. And Im not sure he is all that efficient enough of a scorer with all that promising of a jumper.

Compare that to Mathurin. Mathurin looks to be a little longer, he is the better athlete. I think he projects to be the better defender as well. I like the form on his jumper over Davis as well. He is the far more efficient scorer from the field compared to Davis.

Again my thing with Davis is, if he isnt as effective as getting to the line in the NBA. What role are you going to play him in?

His defense and versatility on offense tells me that his going to be a valuable piece for a number of teams in the league that have a lead PG that isn't a strong defender.

His rebounding is elite level for size and position. That wrinkle to his game makes it difficult to find comps but closest comp is an elite rebounding version of Dillon Brooks (who is already a good rebounder for size)..

Davis is on a team with some of the worst spacing in the league and he's forcing up 3s to show that he can be a volume 3 shooter. His % will be fine in NBA.

I think Davis is similarly ranked to Ivey, I think Davis has the higher floor though. Not sure where you rank them overall tbh. I just think maybe outside top 5 but inside top 10.

[MotownMadness]

you play him @ the two as your ISO scorer who can defend both guard positions, a very traditional SG prospect

Im just not a fan of his inefficient scoring. If he was a better shooter or a better facilitator I would be higher on him. But that jumper is inconsistent at best and its pretty slow. He also doesn't bring much from a facilitating aspect. Then the fact he isnt the quickest guy or having an elite handle. Im not sure how consistent of a slasher he is going to be at the next level.

Dont get me wrong Im not saying he is undraftable or anything like that. Just not seeing a top 10 pick from him.

I have him in the 6-10 area. He's gonna be high volume but I'm not sure if it's gonna cause him to be to be a chucker at the next level or if he becomes a somewhat efficient 18-20 ppg player.

[Duke4life831]

My issue with Davis is, Im just not sure what role he has in the NBA. His #1 thing is his scoring. Well he isnt that efficient of a scorer. He has a 53 TS% in conference so far. But that gets helped out with his high FTr. His eFG% is only 48%. He isnt much of a facilitator. He isnt a bad athlete, he moves well but he isnt a great one either. He is also playing in a more slower paced Big Ten. I think his athleticism will be viewed as below average to average against other NBA guards.

So like what role are you looking for him to play. He doesnt really have the greatest off ball skill set. And Im not sure he is all that efficient enough of a scorer with all that promising of a jumper.

Compare that to Mathurin. Mathurin looks to be a little longer, he is the better athlete. I think he projects to be the better defender as well. I like the form on his jumper over Davis as well. He is the far more efficient scorer from the field compared to Davis.

Again my thing with Davis is, if he isnt as effective as getting to the line in the NBA. What role are you going to play him in?

His defense and versatility on offense tells me that his going to be a valuable piece for a number of teams in the league that have a lead PG that isn't a strong defender.

His rebounding is elite level for size and position. That wrinkle to his game makes it difficult to find comps but closest comp is an elite rebounding version of Dillon Brooks(who is already a good rebounder for size)..

Davis is on a team with some of the worst spacing in the league and he's forcing up 3s to show that he can be a volume 3 shooter. His % will be fine in NBA.

I think Davis is similarly ranked to Ivey, I think Davis has the higher floor though. Not sure where you rank them overall tbh. I just think maybe outside top 5 but inside top 10.

Josh Hart is the name that I think of most with Davis. Davis appears to be a little bigger than Hart and a little more on ball oriented than Hart. But Hart leaving Villanova was an 18ppg guy. Not an elite defender, but a solid versatile defender. Not a great athlete but a solid one. Not a consistent shooter (ya I know Hart had some good 3pt seasons at Vill, but his FT shooting was the better indicator of his shooting ability). Now I think Davis is better with the ball in his hands, but again Im just not sold on how effective he will be as an ISO scorer against NBA competition. But I think his floor is a solid energy guard. Just not sure what his ceiling is and how likely he will hit it.

Again Ill admit Im most likely in the minority on this one with me mostly just being meh on him. Also to be clear, this isnt me saying I wouldnt draft him. Just not seeing a lotto talent with him. Probably roughly 18 and on is where I can see taking a shot on him.

[Duke4life831]

you play him @ the two as your ISO scorer who can defend both guard positions, a very traditional SG prospect

Im just not a fan of his inefficient scoring. If he was a better shooter or a better facilitator I would be higher on him. But that jumper is inconsistent at best and its pretty slow. He also doesn't bring much from a facilitating aspect. Then the fact he isnt the quickest guy or having an elite handle. Im not sure how consistent of a slasher he is going to be at the next level.

Dont get me wrong Im not saying he is undraftable or anything like that. Just not seeing a top 10 pick from him.

I have him in the 6-10 area. He's gonna be high volume but I'm not sure if it's gonna cause him to be to be a chucker at the next level or if he becomes a somewhat efficient 18-20 ppg player.

That is the thing with him for me. I just dont see where his efficiency is going to come from. He isnt that efficient in college and Im not seeing any naturally gifted areas with him (first step, crazy length, overall explosion, natural shooter), which would lead me to believe he has this untapped area really to take that next level in the efficiency area.

[zimpy27]

My issue with Davis is, Im just not sure what role he has in the NBA. His #1 thing is his scoring. Well he isnt that efficient of a scorer. He has a 53 TS% in conference so far. But that gets helped out with his high FTr. His eFG% is only 48%. He isnt much of a facilitator. He isnt a bad athlete, he moves well but he isnt a great one either. He is also playing in a more slower paced Big Ten. I think his athleticism will be viewed as below average to average against other NBA guards.

So like what role are you looking for him to play. He doesnt really have the greatest off ball skill set. And Im not sure he is all that efficient enough of a scorer with all that promising of a jumper.

Compare that to Mathurin. Mathurin looks to be a little longer, he is the better athlete. I think he projects to be the better defender as well. I like the form on his jumper over Davis as well. He is the far more efficient scorer from the field compared to Davis.

Again my thing with Davis is, if he isnt as effective as getting to the line in the NBA. What role are you going to play him in?

His defense and versatility on offense tells me that his going to be a valuable piece for a number of teams in the league that have a lead PG that isn't a strong defender.

His rebounding is elite level for size and position. That wrinkle to his game makes it difficult to find comps but closest comp is an elite rebounding version of Dillon Brooks(who is already a good rebounder for size)..

Davis is on a team with some of the worst spacing in the league and he's forcing up 3s to show that he can be a volume 3 shooter. His % will be fine in NBA.

I think Davis is similarly ranked to Ivey, I think Davis has the higher floor though. Not sure where you rank them overall tbh. I just think maybe outside top 5 but inside top 10.

Josh Hart is the name that I think of most with Davis. Davis appears to be a little bigger than Hart and a little more on ball oriented than Hart. But Hart leaving Villanova was an 18ppg guy. Not an elite defender, but a solid versatile defender. Not a great athlete but a solid one. Not a consistent shooter (ya I know Hart had some good 3pt seasons at Vill, but his FT shooting was the better indicator of his shooting ability). Now I think Davis is better with the ball in his hands, but again Im just not sold on how effective he will be as an ISO scorer against NBA competition. But I think his floor is a solid energy guard. Just not sure what his ceiling is and how likely he will hit it.

Again Ill admit Im most likely in the minority on this one with me mostly just being meh on him. Also to be clear, this isnt me saying I wouldnt draft him. Just not seeing a lotto talent with him. Probably roughly 18 and on is where I can see taking a shot on him.

His ceiling is tough to gauge, honestly, I think the ceiling is always tough to gauge from college unless it's just wide open and obvious. I find the floor a lot easier to determine prior to NBA.

I find it encouraging that Davis has changed up his game since last year, he's not just improving his shots, his changing the shots he takes. That tells me he's versatile and adaptable, he'll work on things and make it work.

I really like the way he is comfortable getting to the top of the key or even inside the key. He has a number of moves from there, it's really an important part of great NBA scoring. I worry when guys can take the ball in to the key from the dribble and don't have any versatility there that they are just looking to pass out. I want to make a point of this because a driving and 3 guy in college that doesn't show comfort in the midrange as much can be high on boards but they will be lower on mine. If you think about the best scorers in the league they all have game in the midrange, they are all comfortable with a live dribble in the key facing out or in. They may choose to shoot the 3 or drive (the optimal offense) from the perimeter but it's a choice and their versatility in the midrange I still feel is what makes them a great scorer.

Yeah Hart is a fair comp because of the rebounding, he's where Hart was at his 4th year but Davis is there at his 2nd, Davis is a more alpha scorer. I might expect a Josh Hart player that can be a 15-20ppg scorer in NBA rather than a 10ppg scorer. Maybe not a max guy unless he really takes off but a 20% of the cap type player.

[SelfishPlayer]

18 year old 6'8" freak athlete with a great feel for the game Kendall Brown looks like a lock lottery pick when the draft roles around. His draft stock during the college season reminds me of Zach LaVine's, only less egregiously underrated.

How does anyone have Johnny Davis rated ahead of Bennedict Mathurin? As a college player? maybe...As an NBA prospect? How? Mathurin compares favorably to many that have found huge success in the pros. Jaylen Brown and Anthony Edwards most recently, Michael Finley as a name from the past.

[clyde21]

Im just not a fan of his inefficient scoring. If he was a better shooter or a better facilitator I would be higher on him. But that jumper is inconsistent at best and its pretty slow. He also doesn't bring much from a facilitating aspect. Then the fact he isnt the quickest guy or having an elite handle. Im not sure how consistent of a slasher he is going to be at the next level.

Dont get me wrong Im not saying he is undraftable or anything like that. Just not seeing a top 10 pick from him.

I have him in the 6-10 area. He's gonna be high volume but I'm not sure if it's gonna cause him to be to be a chucker at the next level or if he becomes a somewhat efficient 18-20 ppg player.

That is the thing with him for me. I just dont see where his efficiency is going to come from. He isnt that efficient in college and Im not seeing any naturally gifted areas with him (first step, crazy length, overall explosion, natural shooter), which would lead me to believe he has this untapped area really to take that next level in the efficiency area.

i think the whole inefficient talk is a little overexaggerated, he shoots 77% from the FT and 33% in college on strong volume, there is no reason to think he won't get to the 36-38% range in the NBA from 3pt land, or even 80%+ from the stripe

[OrlChamps2030]

The spacing is pretty bad on Wisconsin, along with a slow pace, and he has to do EVERYTHING for his team.. Davis looks like a prime case for a guy who will benefit from increased spacing in the NBA. Not to mention he won’t be expected to carry his team.. I agree with the above poster, he should become atleast an average-ish 3 point shooter in the league

[WargamesX]

The spacing is pretty bad on Wisconsin, along with a slow pace, and he has to do EVERYTHING for his team.. Davis looks like a prime case for a guy who will benefit from increased spacing in the NBA. Not to mention he won’t be expected to carry his team.. I agree with the above poster, he should become atleast an average-ish 3 point shooter in the league

That was what everyone said about Bouknight and UConn last year.

[The-Power]

Davis is on a team with some of the worst spacing in the league and he's forcing up 3s to show that he can be a volume 3 shooter. His % will be fine in NBA.

But he's not doing that. His 3PAr is really low for a Guard. I'd actually like to see him shoot more 3s instead of some of his 2pt jumpers.

[The-Power]

Dalen Terry is really having a strong February against solid competition. I would like him on the Warriors as a future glue guy.

[Ruzious]

18 year old 6'8" freak athlete with a great feel for the game Kendall Brown looks like a lock lottery pick when the draft roles around. His draft stock during the college season reminds me of Zach LaVine's, only less egregiously underrated.

How does anyone have Johnny Davis rated ahead of Bennedict Mathurin? As a college player? maybe...As an NBA prospect? How? Mathurin compares favorably to many that have found huge success in the pros. Jaylen Brown and Anthony Edwards most recently, Michael Finley as a name from the past.

I'm a huge fan of Kendall Brown's potential. I'd like to see him be given a bigger role - don't know if it's because he lacks that alpha quality or if it's just because he's so young.

[SelfishPlayer]

18 year old 6'8" freak athlete with a great feel for the game Kendall Brown looks like a lock lottery pick when the draft roles around. His draft stock during the college season reminds me of Zach LaVine's, only less egregiously underrated.

How does anyone have Johnny Davis rated ahead of Bennedict Mathurin? As a college player? maybe...As an NBA prospect? How? Mathurin compares favorably to many that have found huge success in the pros. Jaylen Brown and Anthony Edwards most recently, Michael Finley as a name from the past.

I'm a huge fan of Kendall Brown's potential. I'd like to see him be given a bigger role - don't know if it's because he lacks that alpha quality or if it's just because he's so young.

It's college...Zach Lavine sat the bench in college and was still a lottery pick.

Minnesota T'Wolves Coach Flip Saunders Blasts Hoosier Loser Steve Alford for Misusing #13-Overall Pick Zach LaVine
https://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_basketball/2014/6/26/5848306/nba-minnesota-flip-saunders-blasts-hoosier-loser-steve-alford-zach-lavine

Then there are guys like Johnny Davis who are given huge roles in college, people during the season have him as a top 5 pick, but I don't see prodigious enough of an NBA talent to justify that projection... He generally isn't the sort of prospect that I view as lottery material. He may be the most lackluster highest projected SG prospect that I've ever seen. He has skills, but he's a below the rim player that doesn't have range on his jumpshot and isn't a passer. Does he develop in the NBA without having plays called specifically for him? He isn't tall/lengthy for the position, but he already has an NBA body, what happens to him when the defenders are stronger and his strength advantage over college defenders is eleminated? Jaden Springer his freshman season had the same shot distribution Davis has this season. He's averaging 15.4ppg in the G league at 19 years old.