[WINDHORST]: Lakers May Need To Trade For LeBron This Summer

[Goomba3666]

LeBron thinks he's a master 693D chess player & manipulator through "leaked" info and comments via the media and his cohorts (Klutch), but for me he's only a petulant child who runs away to greener pastures once his demands are not met and he senses a better opportunity somewhere else.

This is one of the main reasons LeBron will never be on the same pedestal as Jordan. It's as simple as that.

Beautiful Post

This weekend there’s a picture of him and Michael and he’s already on that pedestal y’all keep talking…

Your hate is so strong I’m popping popcorn I’m enjoying it

I too hated LeBron James when the Cavaliers be Gilbert Arenas and the wizards…I LOATHED The Decision…

But with the level of his play and all the records shattering the man deserves his flowers.

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Woah. You ok?

[Flash4thewin]

I can’t wait for this dude to retire. Dude hops around teams every few years once he realizes they aren’t title contenders for one season. His 4 rings are fraud with the way he switches teams to put himself in title contention. Had he stuck with Cleveland throughout or stayed with the Heat, he would have 2 rings at most. He’s nowhere near MJ. 19 years of all time great longevity for sure but Jordan accomplished more major awards in way less time and didn’t beg stars to join his team and then switching to join other stars.

I think he would be sitting with 5 rings with a roster better suited to win #6 if he stayed with Pat Riley. Miami needed a year or 2 to reset, and 8 straight finals likely wouldn't happen, but look at how things played out. Cleveland built a team around Lebron built for yesterday's NBA and Golden State quickly jumped ahead of them with Durant (while Lebron was giving Tristain Thompson and JR Smith massive deals with the Cavs). Riley would have never let that happen.

I think winning 3 titles in 7 years in Miami was a very, very real possibility (he's won 2 in the 7 years since he left Miami) and I'm sure the HEAT organization would not have a roster in as bad of shape as this current Laker roster. Even with Wade declining and Bosh being forced to retire, I feel this way about the HEAT.

Lebron left Miami for a Cleveland organization where he never trusted the owner, and then joined a Lakers organization, which outside of Lebron signing there in 2018, has been closer to the Knicks and the Kings than one of the better organizations in the league.

He was right and smart to leave Miami, it hurts to write that. Remember Bosh got hurt and never played again. Then Pat threw big money at Dion Waiters and recently a 90 mil contract to Duncan Robinson. He made the right move.

[JRoy]

LeBron: “Trade our assets for Westbrook”

FO: “ok”

LeBron: “What idiot traded for Westbrook, trade him for assets”

FO: “….”

[NYPiston]

The Lakers may have to trade "for" Lebron? I wasn't aware that Lebron was under contract with another team.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

really can't understand why Lakers not re-signing Caruso and signing Derozan and instead jettisoning their assets for Westbrook is Lebron's fault. He was probably like "yeah that's a good idea" but it isn't his job to make those decisions. LeGM is one of the most contrived storylines in basketball. his job is to play basketball and the front office probably consults him because he's the best player in the game.

people also talk this **** about the moves over the past couple of seasons, lebron holding the team hostage, etc -- but they literally won a championship because of him. 1/3 of NBA teams have never won one. 1/3 of teams have won two or more, one of those, Miami, because of lebron.

the anti-lebron rhetoric pretty much just defies logic. general board fans are far too emotional.

[Goomba3666]

really can't understand why Lakers not re-signing Caruso and signing Derozan and instead jettisoning their assets for Westbrook is Lebron's fault. He was probably like "yeah that's a good idea" but it isn't his job to make those decisions. LeGM is one of the most contrived storylines in basketball. his job is to play basketball and the front office probably consults him because he's the best player in the game.

people also talk this **** about the moves over the past couple of seasons, lebron holding the team hostage, etc -- but they literally won a championship because of him. 1/3 of NBA teams have never won one. 1/3 of teams have won two or more, one of those, Miami, because of lebron.

the anti-lebron rhetoric pretty much just defies logic. general board fans are far too emotional.

Lakers won a ring under circumstances UNPRECEDENTED in sports history on a Disney Compound with no fans, covid protocols, unconditioned players.

The fact that Lakers were illegally practicing while other teams couldn't was also a contributing factor.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-jj-reddick-bill-simmons-all-the-lakers-are-playing-at-some-rich-guys-house-los-angeles-lakers-rumored-to-be-holding-secret-practices/

[SalmonsSuperfan]

really can't understand why Lakers not re-signing Caruso and signing Derozan and instead jettisoning their assets for Westbrook is Lebron's fault. He was probably like "yeah that's a good idea" but it isn't his job to make those decisions. LeGM is one of the most contrived storylines in basketball. his job is to play basketball and the front office probably consults him because he's the best player in the game.

people also talk this **** about the moves over the past couple of seasons, lebron holding the team hostage, etc -- but they literally won a championship because of him. 1/3 of NBA teams have never won one. 1/3 of teams have won two or more, one of those, Miami, because of lebron.

the anti-lebron rhetoric pretty much just defies logic. general board fans are far too emotional.

Lakers won a ring under circumstances UNPRECEDENTED in sports history on a Disney Compound with no fans, covid protocols, unconditioned players.

The fact that Lakers were illegally practicing while other teams couldn't was also a contributing factor.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-jj-reddick-bill-simmons-all-the-lakers-are-playing-at-some-rich-guys-house-los-angeles-lakers-rumored-to-be-holding-secret-practices/

every other team faced the same conditions.

i think you know how ridiculous of an argument it is -- rumored to have held secret practices they were the best team in the league that year and they crushed the competition en route to a title. 16-5 record, but somehow they were lucky or it was the bubble, etc.

i'm not even a lakers fan or a lebron fan, i just think the logical inconsistency and the deep-seated hatred for a ball player makes one look stupid and like a weirdo.

[Johnny Bball]

mobley leaving for the west coast is an inevitability,,,however it plays out
born there
grew up there
went to school there

So did DeRozan, and he would've stayed in Toronto his whole career if they would've let him.

but toronto is a great city
love it there except i froze off my petunias there in OCTOBER once

Except its not cold in October.

[Johnny Bball]

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

Yeah but is it THAT bad of an idea if the trade was basically Lebron for Mobley and picks? If your team would become immediate title contending favorites, that sounds like a win no?

Garland
Caris LeVert
Okoro
Lebron
Allen
+depth up the wazoo.

With that said, I don't know if Dan Gilbert would be interested in having a player that left him twice, even if it meant they would be immediate favorites to win.

the trade would be for sexton and kevin love plus picks

Have the Cavs trade for the 2023 swap and 24 Lakers pick from NO, and they make that deal, plus a little more more.

[NyKnicks1714]

really can't understand why Lakers not re-signing Caruso and signing Derozan and instead jettisoning their assets for Westbrook is Lebron's fault. He was probably like "yeah that's a good idea" but it isn't his job to make those decisions. LeGM is one of the most contrived storylines in basketball. his job is to play basketball and the front office probably consults him because he's the best player in the game.

people also talk this **** about the moves over the past couple of seasons, lebron holding the team hostage, etc -- but they literally won a championship because of him. 1/3 of NBA teams have never won one. 1/3 of teams have won two or more, one of those, Miami, because of lebron.

the anti-lebron rhetoric pretty much just defies logic. general board fans are far too emotional.

Lakers won a ring under circumstances UNPRECEDENTED in sports history on a Disney Compound with no fans, covid protocols, unconditioned players.

The fact that Lakers were illegally practicing while other teams couldn't was also a contributing factor.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-jj-reddick-bill-simmons-all-the-lakers-are-playing-at-some-rich-guys-house-los-angeles-lakers-rumored-to-be-holding-secret-practices/

every other team faced the same conditions.

i think you know how ridiculous of an argument it is -- rumored to have held secret practices they were the best team in the league that year and they crushed the competition en route to a title. 16-5 record, but somehow they were lucky or it was the bubble, etc.

i'm not even a lakers fan or a lebron fan, i just think the logical inconsistency and the deep-seated hatred for a ball player makes one look stupid and like a weirdo.

And they lost HCA

[Johnny Bball]

Laker fans aren't that mad. We apprecaite the chip he got us. If he wants to leave then he should. We can't mortgage our future on a 38 year old.

They already did. Now the only conversation is, should they recover from that.

[Jkam31]

LeBron thinks he's a master 693D chess player & manipulator through "leaked" info and comments via the media and his cohorts (Klutch), but for me he's only a petulant child who runs away to greener pastures once his demands are not met and he senses a better opportunity somewhere else.

This is one of the main reasons LeBron will never be on the same pedestal as Jordan. It's as simple as that.

he’ll go to Cleveland and these dumbass worshippers would say “he’s going home”

[madmaxmedia]

being traded to Cavs make a lot of sense.....

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

Yeah but is it THAT bad of an idea if the trade was basically Lebron for Mobley and picks? If your team would become immediate title contending favorites, that sounds like a win no?

Garland
Caris LeVert
Okoro
Lebron
Allen
+depth up the wazoo.

With that said, I don't know if Dan Gilbert would be interested in having a player that left him twice, even if it meant they would be immediate favorites to win.

If Lakers were to trade Lebron to Cleveland (which is the only trade that could likely actually happen) it would be this upcoming offseason as Lebron only has 1 year left anyway on his current deal, so I don't think his trade value is going to be that high. I think from the Cavs side, they'd have to give up at least 1 young player but would be strong title contenders next year as Lebron is going to outplay whatever trade package they would give up.

If you can figure out a good way of drafting Bronny at his real draft value (rather than someone else swooping in ahead of you and demanding way too much so you can keep father and son together), I think this could be a great move for Cleveland if they want him back for the next 2-3 years.

The Lakers' best move is still to try to maximize a Lebron-led roster, and Westbrook should be somewhat easier to move as an expiring. But if they somehow end up faced with running essentially the same Lebron-AD-RW team next season (which would be depressing), they could decide to cut bait and get what they can for Lebron.

[Hoop Heavy]

LeBron: “Trade our assets for Westbrook”

FO: “ok”

LeBron: “What idiot traded for Westbrook, trade him for assets”

FO: “….”

But, we've figured it out now. There is a trade that make sense and that will rescue the situation. I have it on good authority that Lebron wants this. Of course, it going back to the same well ... Washington.


Now, if only Lebron could get Porzingis on the Lakers ... all would be well.



Seriously, his greatness as a player is tarnished by his narcissism and disloyalty to any long term thinking on behalf of the team he is on.

Me, Me, Me! Now, Now, Now!

Lebron is the inverse of the great example Duncan showed the NBA.

[R-DAWG]

I can’t wait for this dude to retire. Dude hops around teams every few years once he realizes they aren’t title contenders for one season. His 4 rings are fraud with the way he switches teams to put himself in title contention. Had he stuck with Cleveland throughout or stayed with the Heat, he would have 2 rings at most. He’s nowhere near MJ. 19 years of all time great longevity for sure but Jordan accomplished more major awards in way less time and didn’t beg stars to join his team and then switching to join other stars.

I think he would be sitting with 5 rings with a roster better suited to win #6 if he stayed with Pat Riley. Miami needed a year or 2 to reset, and 8 straight finals likely wouldn't happen, but look at how things played out. Cleveland built a team around Lebron built for yesterday's NBA and Golden State quickly jumped ahead of them with Durant (while Lebron was giving Tristain Thompson and JR Smith massive deals with the Cavs). Riley would have never let that happen.

I think winning 3 titles in 7 years in Miami was a very, very real possibility (he's won 2 in the 7 years since he left Miami) and I'm sure the HEAT organization would not have a roster in as bad of shape as this current Laker roster. Even with Wade declining and Bosh being forced to retire, I feel this way about the HEAT.

Lebron left Miami for a Cleveland organization where he never trusted the owner, and then joined a Lakers organization, which outside of Lebron signing there in 2018, has been closer to the Knicks and the Kings than one of the better organizations in the league.

He was right and smart to leave Miami, it hurts to write that. Remember Bosh got hurt and never played again. Then Pat threw big money at Dion Waiters and recently a 90 mil contract to Duncan Robinson. He made the right move.

I disagree. But, I understand his approach of havign a team put all the chips in the middle of the table and then jumping ship when the window closes to another team that is willing to put all the chips in the table. Rinse, repeat.

He has delivered a title everywhere he has gone. Period.

[iqureshi]

What is the actual value (not lakers fan delusions) of 38 year lebron at that contract and how he messes with team rosters and chemistry. some combination of love sexton lauri okoro and picks. If i'm cavs i wouldn't give up anything else, but Lakers would never do that.

[CobraCommander]

Lebron still good but when you 38 and making max money AND the team not winning, you could get traded for cash and draft picks to damn near anyone. Lebron needs to be careful because every day that passes he gets less and less leverage. At some point the Lakers gonna have to look out for life after LBJ and at that point why hold on to a disgruntled max player if they can move him for long term assets?

[CobraCommander]

What is the actual value (not lakers fan delusions) of 38 year lebron at that contract and how he messes with team rosters and chemistry. some combination of love sexton lauri okoro and picks. If i'm cavs i wouldn't give up anything else, but Lakers would never do that.

Yeah what you said....eventually Dan P gonna answer a call from Lebron like


Cause no way laker nation signing bronny....

[bamheat]

LeBron thinks he's a master 693D chess player & manipulator through "leaked" info and comments via the media and his cohorts (Klutch), but for me he's only a petulant child who runs away to greener pastures once his demands are not met and he senses a better opportunity somewhere else.

This is one of the main reasons LeBron will never be on the same pedestal as Jordan. It's as simple as that.

Nah, Lebron being the first athlete to pave his own path and do things his way is exactly why he is above Jordan.

You just don't like that he does it. That's all.

[LivingLegend]

I can’t wait for this dude to retire. Dude hops around teams every few years once he realizes they aren’t title contenders for one season. His 4 rings are fraud with the way he switches teams to put himself in title contention. Had he stuck with Cleveland throughout or stayed with the Heat, he would have 2 rings at most. He’s nowhere near MJ. 19 years of all time great longevity for sure but Jordan accomplished more major awards in way less time and didn’t beg stars to join his team and then switching to join other stars.

You mad at him beating the Celtics in the playoffs more than any other team in his career or the fact that those Heat teams cut Bostons legs out from under them and forced Bostons own superteam into early retirement?