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Post#402 » by eyeatoma » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:42 am

Hahahahahha!!

Jo met up with the RIP Bozo guy!

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Post#403 » by eyeatoma » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:44 am

Wooow this is crazy. Sounds like this guy is making millions of bucks because Embiid tweeted his post!

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Post#405 » by Sixteen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:50 am

Honestly never thought embiid would be this good. He legitimately has a case for best player on the planet. Just absolutely insane to say considering his early trajectory
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Post#406 » by Sixteen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:54 am

I wanna give some credit to Doc too. It seems like the game slowed down for embiid once doc came and his passing out of double teams improved immensely
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Post#407 » by eyeatoma » Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:11 pm

Phila Tough wrote:Honestly never thought embiid would be this good. He legitimately has a case for best player on the planet. Just absolutely insane to say considering his early trajectory
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Post#408 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:01 pm


Best Embiid mixtape ive seen this year
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Post#409 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:02 pm

Embiid is definitely the best player this year but the MVP race is too tight

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Post#410 » by Stanford » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:13 pm

Meh, MVP is a narrative based award that is often influenced by voter fatigue. Joel has the narrative and his competition has won the award before. Joel has as good a chance as the other two players to win MVP, imo.
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Post#411 » by Iverson Armband » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:37 pm

I think if Chicago finishes #1 Derozan will get it.
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Post#412 » by sodmoraes » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:27 pm

Stanford wrote:Meh, MVP is a narrative based award that is often influenced by voter fatigue. Joel has the narrative and his competition has won the award before. Joel has as good a chance as the other two players to win MVP, imo.


I agree. And , with Harden, probably the sixers can win a lot, and end in the top 2, which i think would boost his chances to the MVP award, by having one of the best team records in the league.
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Post#413 » by 76ciology » Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:50 am

In 2020-2021, Giannis averaged 9.5 FTAs in the regular season. In the finals, Giannis averaged 14 FTAs per game.

And if you swallow your whistle, you’d want to have guys like James Harden and James Harden over guys like RJ Barrett and Julius Randle taking contested jumpers.
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Post#414 » by eyeatoma » Tue Mar 1, 2022 9:16 am

Iverson Armband wrote:I think if Chicago finishes #1 Derozan will get it.



Not enough time, and Chicago is falling off now...
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Post#415 » by 76ciology » Sun Mar 6, 2022 1:24 pm

I hope its OK to ask this about Embiid.

Is embiid streaky as a superstar? Is there a big variance to his performance in terms of bad game vs good game or the frequency of his bad is higher?

Or Is it just optics (specifically, just my optics) with us being used to great bigs being consistent players or maybe Embiid’s body language is just super bad during off nights than the body language of other great bigs on their off nights?

Harden is here, our team can adjust its schemes with him to make us a better and more consistent team. I like how Harden can get Embiid to the line and easy baskets when Biid’s shots aren’t falling.


I do think that the variance is how much his bad game and good game affects the team because he anchors the team on both ends. That if steph has a bad game, draymond can still anchor the defense. If michael jordan has a bad game, pippen and rodman can anchor the defense.

If embiid has a bad game, sure Harden can anchor the offense. But hows the defense?

In the bigger scheme of things, I hope Embiid’s load of offense will decrease and focus more on being more energetic and less injury prone.

But what happens if Harden is not playing or who grabs the boards and anchor the defense when Embiid’s body language is bad? Do we play more DeAndre Jordan? Then we shift into a rox type team with a duo guard lead team and a big who is a lob threat?

Should Doc have sat Embiid during the game he played against the Heat rather than letting him play heavy minutes? If Im coaching, I would have sat Embiid for I dont like his energy and body language during the game. But it’s a players’ league, so I dont know if he has control over this.
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Post#416 » by Zumramania » Sun Mar 6, 2022 2:02 pm

Doc has to have control over this. I know Embiid wants to play every possible game, but sometimes you gotta rest him. I just hope they condition him properly for the playoffs and that they have a plan for it, this should be the most important goal.
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Post#417 » by mjkvol » Sun Mar 6, 2022 2:57 pm

76ciology wrote:I hope its OK to ask this about Embiid.

Is embiid streaky as a superstar? Is there a big variance to his performance in terms of bad game vs good game or the frequency of his bad is higher?

Or Is it just optics (specifically, just my optics) with us being used to great bigs being consistent players or maybe Embiid’s body language is just super bad during off nights than the body language of other great bigs on their off nights?

Harden is here, our team can adjust its schemes with him to make us a better and more consistent team. I like how Harden can get Embiid to the line and easy baskets when Biid’s shots aren’t falling.


I do think that the variance is how much his bad game and good game affects the team because he anchors the team on both ends. That if steph has a bad game, draymond can still anchor the defense. If michael jordan has a bad game, pippen and rodman can anchor the defense.

If embiid has a bad game, sure Harden can anchor the offense. But hows the defense?

In the bigger scheme of things, I hope Embiid’s load of offense will decrease and focus more on being more energetic and less injury prone.

But what happens if Harden is not playing or who grabs the boards and anchor the defense when Embiid’s body language is bad? Do we play more DeAndre Jordan? Then we shift into a rox type team with a duo guard lead team and a big who is a lob threat?

Should Doc have sat Embiid during the game he played against the Heat rather than letting him play heavy minutes? If Im coaching, I would have sat Embiid for I dont like his energy and body language during the game. But it’s a players’ league, so I dont know if he has control over this.


With regard to the question of Harden not playing, that is one primary reason I've been saying all along that this isn't about this season, but only the first step towards making this a serious championship contender for 3-4 years that can still function with Harden and/or Embiid sitting.

Right now, when Harden sits we are a better than average team with one great player, one rising player, and a lot of JAG's, some of whom, like Niang and hopefully Shake, are very useful as role players. And led by a coach who is ill equipped to be the guy to win a title the way the game is played now, and might be the achilles heel of this whole thing if he is allowed to stay. We can make some noise in the playoffs this year, but are woefully thin and far too dependent on two players, and without a coach who can scheme around that.

Regarding last night, I would have been fine with sitting Embiid, but at the very least he should have been pulled as soon as the Heat put the clamps on this game in the 4th quarter. I still think Embiid should be sat on one end of back to backs, with Harden sitting on the other end. Or play both to get one win, then sit both and experiment with some young players, but that is way out of Doc's wheelhouse.
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Post#418 » by 76ciology » Sun Mar 6, 2022 3:32 pm

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:I hope its OK to ask this about Embiid.

Is embiid streaky as a superstar? Is there a big variance to his performance in terms of bad game vs good game or the frequency of his bad is higher?

Or Is it just optics (specifically, just my optics) with us being used to great bigs being consistent players or maybe Embiid’s body language is just super bad during off nights than the body language of other great bigs on their off nights?

Harden is here, our team can adjust its schemes with him to make us a better and more consistent team. I like how Harden can get Embiid to the line and easy baskets when Biid’s shots aren’t falling.


I do think that the variance is how much his bad game and good game affects the team because he anchors the team on both ends. That if steph has a bad game, draymond can still anchor the defense. If michael jordan has a bad game, pippen and rodman can anchor the defense.

If embiid has a bad game, sure Harden can anchor the offense. But hows the defense?

In the bigger scheme of things, I hope Embiid’s load of offense will decrease and focus more on being more energetic and less injury prone.

But what happens if Harden is not playing or who grabs the boards and anchor the defense when Embiid’s body language is bad? Do we play more DeAndre Jordan? Then we shift into a rox type team with a duo guard lead team and a big who is a lob threat?

Should Doc have sat Embiid during the game he played against the Heat rather than letting him play heavy minutes? If Im coaching, I would have sat Embiid for I dont like his energy and body language during the game. But it’s a players’ league, so I dont know if he has control over this.


With regard to the question of Harden not playing, that is one primary reason I've been saying all along that this isn't about this season, but only the first step towards making this a serious championship contender for 3-4 years that can still function with Harden and/or Embiid sitting.

Right now, when Harden sits we are a better than average team with one great player, one rising player, and a lot of JAG's, some of whom, like Niang and hopefully Shake, are very useful as role players. And led by a coach who is ill equipped to be the guy to win a title the way the game is played now, and might be the achilles heel of this whole thing if he is allowed to stay. We can make some noise in the playoffs this year, but are woefully thin and far too dependent on two players, and without a coach who can scheme around that.

Regarding last night, I would have been fine with sitting Embiid, but at the very least he should have been pulled as soon as the Heat put the clamps on this game in the 4th quarter. I still think Embiid should be sat on one end of back to backs, with Harden sitting on the other end. Or play both to get one win, then sit both and experiment with some young players, but that is way out of Doc's wheelhouse.


And in the situation Embiid is having his off game, Harden can carry the offense. But who steps up on defense?
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Post#419 » by Kobblehead » Sun Mar 6, 2022 3:41 pm

Damn, I thought Big Fendi was just a random dude. Would have been a lot funnier.

Didn't realize he was a low level music industry manager so he's somewhat a big deal.
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Post#420 » by mjkvol » Sun Mar 6, 2022 3:46 pm

76ciology wrote:And in the situation Embiid is having his off game, Harden can carry the offense. But who steps up on defense?


That is one of the areas Morey needs to address this summer. Right now there are no good answers.
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