Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch?

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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#41 » by JRoy » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:07 pm

Curry is an all time great.

How great does he have to be to satisfy you people?
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#42 » by Sedale Threatt » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:16 pm

JRoy wrote:Curry is an all time great.

How great does he have to be to satisfy you people?


You're obviously new here.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#43 » by og15 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:18 pm

If you're unreliable in the clutch and have 3 championships and multiple finals, then you must be so much better than others before that so it doesn't matter as much.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#44 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:19 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Yes, I too concluded that the all-star game is similar to a playoff game.


It’s arguably more important, you are playing against the world’s best on a one court, in a single elimination game Morey-style.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#45 » by Edrees » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:01 am

Anyone who scored less than 50 in that game must be even less clutch
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#46 » by Yoshun » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:21 am

His over-reliance on the 3-ball is going to give GSW a lot of trouble in closing games in the playoffs


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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#47 » by DaPessimist » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:27 am

Breaking News: A guy who gets most of his points 24+ feet from the hoop isn't as reliable.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#48 » by JN61 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:38 am

Yes. His clutch stats in playoffs are bad and finals 4th quarter stats horrible.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#49 » by JN61 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:27 am

Sofia wrote:Image

This might be the greatest NBA related edited gif. Iconic.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#50 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:52 am

Pharaoh wrote:If he's dropping bombs like that in a playoff game there is no clutch time cause the game would be well in hand before crunch time comes.

Y'all crazy with stats and clutch minutes and points scored in the last 2 minutes or something...

Games CAN be won long before the last 2 minutes

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You're right. This was a thing with Iverson too. It's really a short superstar issue because it's easier to stop/guard their shot with limited time left in the game. There should be a stat for what you suggested, call it "clutch time prevention." Curry's a CTP'er baby! (/Dick Vitale voice)
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#51 » by art_tatum » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:00 am

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This might be the greatest NBA related edited gif. Iconic.

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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#52 » by BoatsNZones » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:08 am

JN61 wrote:Yes. His clutch stats in playoffs are bad and finals 4th quarter stats horrible.

It's a cute narrative, but I literally just listed his 4th Q Finals stats, and they are incredible; significantly better than guys like Kyrie and Lebron. Per-36 minutes 29/6/5 on a 68% TS if you missed it.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#53 » by DroseReturnChi » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:17 am

curry is the worst clutch its embarassing to call him superstar. in his entire life he made what 1 buzzer beater?
final shot how many teams would rely on curry to make it over lebron, durant, doncic?
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#54 » by WarriorGM » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:02 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:curry is the worst clutch its embarassing to call him superstar. in his entire life he made what 1 buzzer beater?
final shot how many teams would rely on curry to make it over lebron, durant, doncic?


I remember in the 2019 season the Warriors had a couple of games KD was designated as the finals shot taker. They lost. In a following game Curry took the final shot and the Warriors won.



I guess that doesn't count as a buzzer beater though because half a second was left.

If one needs to win the smart money will be on Curry.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#55 » by BostonCouchGM » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:18 am

Sofia wrote:Image


I know the 2016 Finals was rigged. But I’m almost just as positive Steph was in on it because without him they couldn’t pull it off. Go watch that series with that thought in mind. Really watch Steph play. The lazy reaches on defense getting him in foul trouble. Missing wide open threes like he had never missed before. Sloppy and errant passes. Even his wife’s tweet for cover. Surely she’d never tweet that if he was in on it right?

That whole season was marketed as Lebron’s return to CLE to bring the city its first championship. Remember all the commercials with the “I’m Coming Home” song? CLE was always going to win that series one way or another. Im genuinely embarrassed for people that think that series was legit
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#56 » by WarriorGM » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:30 am

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Sofia wrote:Image


I know the 2016 Finals was rigged. But I’m almost just as positive Steph was in on it because without him they couldn’t pull it off. Go watch that series with that thought in mind. Really watch Steph play. The lazy reaches on defense getting him in foul trouble. Missing wide open threes like he had never missed before. Sloppy and errant passes. Even his wife’s tweet for cover. Surely she’d never tweet that if he was in on it right?

That whole season was marketed as Lebron’s return to CLE to bring the city its first championship. Remember all the commercials with the “I’m Coming Home” song? CLE was always going to win that series one way or another. Im genuinely embarrassed for people that think that series was legit


I think the Warriors were mentally drained from pursuing the 73-wins and the circus that came with it. Curry didn't look focused like someone who stayed up all night cramming for a test instead of someone who prepared a week in advance.

There was possibly some serious gamesmanship going on behind the scenes too. Ayesha's father for example was detained by arena security because he was supposedly mistaken for being a barred individual who had crashed games without tickets.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/currys-father-law-detained-game-6-traumatic-situation
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#57 » by Pennebaker » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:52 am

You know what? It doesn't matter because we're all scared of him anyway! He is hands down the most terrifying shooter in history.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#58 » by JN61 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:55 am

BoatsNZones wrote:
JN61 wrote:Yes. His clutch stats in playoffs are bad and finals 4th quarter stats horrible.

It's a cute narrative, but I literally just listed his 4th Q Finals stats, and they are incredible; significantly better than guys like Kyrie and Lebron. Per-36 minutes 29/6/5 on a 68% TS if you missed it.


False narrative buddy. especially to use FT shooting to prove your point. Curry is all time great when games aren't close and he can gloat and front run. However when games are close he folds like stack of cards and it's not pretty. There is a reason why he has never won FMVP and has choked few finals away with his poor play on the 4th quarter. He is not clutch. Thompson is and Thompson is the reason for at least 2 of his finals appearances/rings ultimately.

4th Quarters (and OTs) in the finals:
x/x FG. y/y 3pt (OT same)
2015:
2/5 FG 0/1 3pt (0/1. 0/1)
2/6. 1/4. (0/4. 0/2)
6/9. 5/8
3/5. 1/2
5/7. 3/5
3/6. 2/4

2016:
1/2. 1/1
1/1. 1/1
1/1. 0/0
3/5. 1/1
3/8. 1/4
2/6. 1/3
1/6. 1/5

2017:
1/1. 0/0
2/3. 1/3
2/5. 0/1
0/2. 0/2
4/7. 1/4

2018:
4/10. 2/5
5/8. 5/5
2/5. 1/3
3/8. 3/5

2019:
2/4. 0/1
0/0. 0/0
1/5. 0/2
3/5. 1/1
2/6. 1/4
1/6. 0/4

We all know Durant took them home during those years and 2019 was just an embarrassment.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#59 » by JN61 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:58 am

art_tatum wrote:
JN61 wrote:
Sofia wrote:Image

This might be the greatest NBA related edited gif. Iconic.

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That isn't even well edited and cheap butthurt GSW fans trying to emulate something they can't.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: Is Curry one of the least reliable superstars in the clutch? 

Post#60 » by BoatsNZones » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:16 am

JN61 wrote:
BoatsNZones wrote:
JN61 wrote:Yes. His clutch stats in playoffs are bad and finals 4th quarter stats horrible.

It's a cute narrative, but I literally just listed his 4th Q Finals stats, and they are incredible; significantly better than guys like Kyrie and Lebron. Per-36 minutes 29/6/5 on a 68% TS if you missed it.


False narrative buddy. especially to use FT shooting to prove your point. Curry is all time great when games aren't close and he can gloat and front run. However when games are close he folds like stack of cards and it's not pretty. There is a reason why he has never won FMVP and has choked few finals away with his poor play on the 4th quarter. He is not clutch. Thompson is and Thompson is the reason for at least 2 of his finals appearances/rings ultimately.

4th Quarters (and OTs) in the finals:
x/x FG. y/y 3pt (OT same)
2015:
2/5 FG 0/1 3pt (0/1. 0/1)
2/6. 1/4. (0/4. 0/2)
6/9. 5/8
3/5. 1/2
5/7. 3/5
3/6. 2/4

2016:
1/2. 1/1
1/1. 1/1
1/1. 0/0
3/5. 1/1
3/8. 1/4
2/6. 1/3
1/6. 1/5

2017:
1/1. 0/0
2/3. 1/3
2/5. 0/1
0/2. 0/2
4/7. 1/4

2018:
4/10. 2/5
5/8. 5/5
2/5. 1/3
3/8. 3/5

2019:
2/4. 0/1
0/0. 0/0
1/5. 0/2
3/5. 1/1
2/6. 1/4
1/6. 0/4

We all know Durant took them home during those years and 2019 was just an embarrassment.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/steph-curry-finals-stats-in-4th-q
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/lebron-james-finals-stats-in-4th-q
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kyrie-irving-finals-stats-in-4th-q
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kawhi-leonard-finals-stats-in-4th-q

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