[WINDHORST]: Lakers May Need To Trade For LeBron This Summer

[Lalouie]

Cavs fans would u do Allen/Levert for him this summer? Obviously u can wait it out but to get him a yr early while maintaining Mobley and Garland would be huge

Obviously prefer not to trade Allen but who knows what the FO would do to get Lebron this offseason assuming of course they want to mess with the current young team. I'm guessing the FO might do Love+Lavert+FRP type deal but that is just a wild guess. If Cavs don't extend Lavert they could also have FA money available in 2023 offseason when Love's contract falls off the books.

i originally didnt think gilbert would do it, with the friction and all. but actually klove makes all kinds of sense. he'd be back where he started,,,age for age. if i was garland though,,,i'd be po'd. garland is aware of kyrie and lonzo and hart and westbrook and i would think he'd like his own team.

but i guess if it's only klove maybe gilbert might think it's the righteous thing to do to bring lebron back

[SweetTouch]

Why is it so easy for these journalists

Just make your story abiut LEBRON and you get all the clicks

[NowWHYcee7]

Can't wait for the LBJ era to be over. Dude can't retire soon enough. Top 3 Ever, icon, yadda yadda yadda, we know....but please move on already.

Worst post of all-time. You act like he's your boss, lmao he's in your head living rent free.

LBJ era is the greatest era in any sport.

Relax it’s not that deep

[mg]

Bronny James scored 4 points off the bench in Sierra Canyon HS's playoff loss this past weekend. He's also going to be 18 later this year. I just don't see him as a top NBA prospect at all.

Looks like he will be coveted by some NBA teams if his old man plays with him. It's all so crazy.

[srhcan]

If Cavs trade for Lebron and then trade for Kyrie without losing Garland, Allen and Mobley then it is all set for dynasty

[Vampirate]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Zion was somehow Laker bound tbh.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

LeBron and AD: "We want Westbrook! Go get him!"
Pelinka: "Wait... Are you guys sure?! We have other deals set up that we think will make us better and won't be virtually untradeable if they don't work out"
LeBron and AD: "Yes we're sure. Now, go get him!"

Time passes... **** basketball is played... Laker fans have had enough of watching Westbrook...

Trade deadline approaches:
LeBron and AD: "We aren't happy. Trade Westbrook."
Pelinka: "I'll do my best, but like I told you when we got him, he's virtually untradeable...."
LeBron and AD: "Don't care. Do your job, and trade him! And make us a championship team in the process!"
Pelinka: "How do you feel about John Wall"...

Deadline passes...

LeBron: "I didn't get what I wanted, so I might leave."

Laker fans: "Cleveland is over there... Bounce."

Nothing adversarial but I see a parallel between how (some/most) Laker fans feel about Lebron after yesterday; and how I and many Wizards fans feel about Bradley Beal.

Bounce isn't just a fabric softener. (But I suspect the Wizards will give up the super max)

[wco81]

being traded to Cavs make a lot of sense.....

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

Does Lebron alone lift the Cavs above other top EC teams?

Even if the Cavs didn't have to give up anything to get him, which of course is impossible.

Cavs aren't giving up Mobley or Garland obviously. They might give up Allen, some draft picks, probably would want to give up Sexton.

But that won't be enough for the Lakers so they will want more, which makes the team weaker.


Plus he may want to leave in a couple of years to join the team which drafts Bronny.

What's more important to LBJ, winning more titles or playing with his son, who may be raw and perhaps not ready to play in the NBA right away?

[Kilroy]

LeBron and AD: "We want Westbrook! Go get him!"
Pelinka: "Wait... Are you guys sure?! We have other deals set up that we think will make us better and won't be virtually untradeable if they don't work out"
LeBron and AD: "Yes we're sure. Now, go get him!"

Time passes... **** basketball is played... Laker fans have had enough of watching Westbrook...

Trade deadline approaches:
LeBron and AD: "We aren't happy. Trade Westbrook."
Pelinka: "I'll do my best, but like I told you when we got him, he's virtually untradeable...."
LeBron and AD: "Don't care. Do your job, and trade him! And make us a championship team in the process!"
Pelinka: "How do you feel about John Wall"...

Deadline passes...

LeBron: "I didn't get what I wanted, so I might leave."

Laker fans: "Cleveland is over there... Bounce."

Nothing adversarial but I see a parallel between how (some/most) Laker fans feel about Lebron after yesterday; and how I and many Wizards fans feel about Bradley Beal.

Bounce isn't just a fabric softener. (But I suspect the Wizards will give up the super max)

Yeah... But to be clear, I've never really been on the LeBron in LA train... It just seemed too much like he thought he was going to come to the Lakers and act like he did in Cleveland and Miami, assuming the minute he put on the jersey, Lakers fans would forget all their past success and just immediately be like LeBron's town... He seems so tone deaf about the Lakers in a lot of ways... Like the past doesn't really register with him...
So, I get that a lot of fans are turning because of what's happened lately (like with Beal) but not all of us... Frankly I've expected this from day one... All of it... Including the mindless personnel moves like Westbrook, and the lack of accountability when it didn't work...

[NyKnicks1714]

Including the mindless personnel moves like Westbrook, and the lack of accountability when it didn't work...

Hold Pelinka and Jeanie Buss accountable. They made the trade, not LeBron. If you own a business and an employee pushes an idea which you then decide to implement; it's your fault if/when it doesn't work out, not the employee's.

[Kilroy]

Including the mindless personnel moves like Westbrook, and the lack of accountability when it didn't work...

Hold Pelinka and Jeanie Buss accountable. They made the trade, not LeBron. If you own a business and an employee pushes an idea which you then decide to implement; it's your fault if/when it doesn't work out, not the employee's.

In a perfect world, that may be true, but it's a different ballgame when the only way you can attract the employee, is by essentially handing all decision making powers over to him and he's associates...
I hold Pelinka and Jeannie accountable for many things... I'm not a fan... That said, Pelinka only exists because we already had LeBron and his team locked up... He's just their to handle the details. Jeannie knows nothing about building a basketball team.. Although she has some people around her that should, including Pelinka...

So IMO, Jeannie isn't even worth blaming, and Rob is what he is... All the power is with Lebron... All the rewards are with him too, and so he deserves the lion's share of the blame too...

I mean, what would have happened if Pelinka basically just told AD and LeBron "No" when they asked him to trade for Westbrook?
Do you think the Lakers would have had a better season if both their stars were pouting?

[NyKnicks1714]

Including the mindless personnel moves like Westbrook, and the lack of accountability when it didn't work...

Hold Pelinka and Jeanie Buss accountable. They made the trade, not LeBron. If you own a business and an employee pushes an idea which you then decide to implement; it's your fault if/when it doesn't work out, not the employee's.

In a perfect world, that may be true, but it's a different ballgame when the only way you can attract the employee, is by essentially handing all decision making powers over to him and he's associates...
I hold Pelinka and Jeannie accountable for many things... I'm not a fan... That said, Pelinka only exists because we already had LeBron and his team locked up... He's just their to handle the details. Jeannie knows nothing about building a basketball team.. Although she has some people around her that should, including Pelinka...

So IMO, Jeannie isn't even worth blaming, and Rob is what he is... All the power is with Lebron... All the rewards are with him too, and so he deserves the lion's share of the blame too...

I mean, what would have happened if Pelinka basically just told AD and LeBron "No" when they asked him to trade for Westbrook?
Do you think the Lakers would have had a better season if both their stars were pouting?

To the last question: yes, easily. The Sacramento trade would have them in a better place right now, even if you factor in any "pouting".

And on the whole LeBron+AD thing, let's remember that AD and Westbrook were the ones who were close friends prior to this season. As we know, the three met and LeBron+AD thought it was a good idea, then approached the Lakers and pushed for it. This is somewhat just speculation, but I think AD would have been the more upset of the two if the trade didn't happen. Regardless, I'm never going to blame a player for a trade they pushed for going poorly. It's not on them.

[Goomba3666]

No way I'm Mobley or Garland and want to play alongside Lebron.

They stand NO CHANCE against the toxic media and Klutch Sports. They'll be dragged mercilessly on a daily basis.

However, let's not kid ourselves. Lebron arrives, those young dudes are getting packaged in some deal for 'floor spacers'

[Goomba3666]

Bronny James scored 4 points off the bench in Sierra Canyon HS's playoff loss this past weekend. He's also going to be 18 later this year. I just don't see him as a top NBA prospect at all.

Looks like he will be coveted by some NBA teams if his old man plays with him. It's all so crazy.

If he gets a spot on an NBA roster, the NBA will have to end up admitting that they put profit over the integrity of the sport.

Interesting in how this plays out.

[Van_Trump]

If the Lakers don't trade AD, what assets do they have? zilch

Does a Dame for AD really move the needle for LA? NO

Do the Knicks reload with an expiring Westbrook next offseason? Knicks gotta Knicks. But really, NO

Does Cleveland trade Mobley and filler for Lebron? NO

Do the Nets become an accessory to murder by trading Irving to LA? Funny, but NO

I honestly can't think of any team willing to help the Lakers to the detriment of themselves. Which is as it should be.

[KrAzY3]

forming opinions on players they've only seen on video and never viscerally living through those moments

Here's the thing that many people don't get about what it was like during Jordan's peak.

There was a sense of hopelessness. It was like the Durant Warriors, but without the off putting MVP teams up with MVP aspects.

You just knew Jordan was going to win, at least after the first one where they beat Magic's Lakers. Then they suffocated Drexler's Trailblazers. Then they beat Barkley's Suns, then Jordan took a break from basketball play baseball, shook off the rust and got right back to it. Took out Kemp's Supersonics, then took out Malone and Stockton twice. No game 7s, no question who was the best player in the Finals, just dominance.

We can try to look at stats, and all of that but what Jordan did was domination that you took for granted. He dominated, retired, dominated then retired again. It was almost like it was too easy...

[Lalouie]

forming opinions on players they've only seen on video and never viscerally living through those moments

Here's the thing that many people don't get about what it was like during Jordan's peak.

There was a sense of hopelessness. It was like the Durant Warriors, but without the off putting MVP teams up with MVP aspects.

You just knew Jordan was going to win, at least after the first one where they beat Magic's Lakers. Then they suffocated Drexler's Trailblazers. Then they beat Barkley's Suns, then Jordan took a break from basketball play baseball, shook off the rusk and got right back to it. Took out Kemp's Supersonics, then took out Malone and Stockton twice. No game 7s, no question who was the best player in the Finals, just dominance.

We can try to look at stats, and all of that but what Jordan did was domination that you took for granted. He dominated, retired, dominated then retired again. It was almost like it was too easy...

absolutely. people were resigned to the fact. some players you worry about.
lebron,,,like he was always worried about going to the line. how many times was he criticized about doing something puzzling.

bird was always dangerous
kareem was automatic. magic - "i'd just feed it into the big guy"
west was mr clutch

there's some of that where you don't want curry to get hot,,,playing bama @tuscaloosa,,,fighting tyson

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Including the mindless personnel moves like Westbrook, and the lack of accountability when it didn't work...

Hold Pelinka and Jeanie Buss accountable. They made the trade, not LeBron. If you own a business and an employee pushes an idea which you then decide to implement; it's your fault if/when it doesn't work out, not the employee's.

As far as I'm concerned it's two years with one Championship with them trending in the wrong direction in year 3

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

If the Lakers don't trade AD, what assets do they have? zilch

Does a Dame for AD really move the needle for LA? NO

Do the Knicks reload with an expiring Westbrook next offseason? Knicks gotta Knicks. But really, NO

Does Cleveland trade Mobley and filler for Lebron? NO

Do the Nets become an accessory to murder by trading Irving to LA? Funny, but NO

I honestly can't think of any team willing to help the Lakers to the detriment of themselves. Which is as it should be.

If you mention AD and Dame then I got to throw Bradley Beal into the equation... maybe even kristaps porzingis

I have a feeling he's going to play well if he suits up for Washington

[Heej]

Lol Jeanie Buss' broke ass is gonna run that franchise into be ground. Especially if she's still taking advice from Kurt Rambis. Best thing LeBron could do is flee the sinking ship that is the Lakers. They're gonna be a shiny version of the Knicks franchise except that stars will actually give them the courtesy of attending a free agency pitch before deciding to sign somewhere else.