Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft

[watch1958]

Wiggins is under contract. So we're trading him? Seems unlikely to me.

I’d guess that was shorthand for won’t-resign-here-after-next-season.

[whatisacenter]

Wiggins is under contract. So we're trading him? Seems unlikely to me.

I’d guess that was shorthand for won’t-resign-here-after-next-season.

here is the quote from Connor:

Though the Warriors would like to keep Wiggins — who turns 27 on Wednesday — for the rest of his prime, they might not want to pay him the roughly $37 million annual salary he’ll warrant beginning in 2023-24. Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green are already due to make a combined $122.7 million that season, $3.5 million over the total projected salary cap.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Wiggins is under contract. So we're trading him? Seems unlikely to me.

I’d guess that was shorthand for won’t-resign-here-after-next-season.

Gist of the article:

Basically the warriors wont have the space for him.

In 2023/24

Steph, dray, klay, wiseman, kuminga, moody will take up about 150 million of the cap , possibly 170 M if u include poole. Thats for only 7 players.

So, basically the decision will be to just let wiggs walk or trade him to a team with capspace with nothing coming back.

[Badly Browned]

Who's giving Wiggins a max contract?

[wco81]

Even if Wiggins got an average starter salary of $20 million a year, it would put them over the cap.

They have to hope Kuminga can become the primary defender and able to shoot with some efficiency. Then in 3-4 years, he'll be looking for at least $25-30 million a year.

[xdrta+]

Wiggins is under contract. So we're trading him? Seems unlikely to me.

I’d guess that was shorthand for won’t-resign-here-after-next-season.

Gist of the article:

Basically the warriors wont have the space for him.

In 2023/24

Steph, dray, klay, wiseman, kuminga, moody will take up about 150 million of the cap , possibly 170 M if u include poole. Thats for only 7 players.

So, basically the decision will be to just let wiggs walk or trade him to a team with capspace with nothing coming back.

And that list doesn't include Looney who will be a FA this off-season. That article says he's due for a raise, suggesting a multiyear deal worth about $6M per. Do the Warriors really want to do that?

[whatisacenter]

Even if Wiggins got an average starter salary of $20 million a year, it would put them over the cap.

They have to hope Kuminga can become the primary defender and able to shoot with some efficiency. Then in 3-4 years, he'll be looking for at least $25-30 million a year.

Yeah, the development of Kuminga looks to match up pretty well with Wiggins becoming a FA. The team has the rest of this season, the playoffs and all of next year to evaluate the roster.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Even if Wiggins got an average starter salary of $20 million a year, it would put them over the cap.

They have to hope Kuminga can become the primary defender and able to shoot with some efficiency. Then in 3-4 years, he'll be looking for at least $25-30 million a year.

Yeah, the development of Kuminga looks to match up pretty well with Wiggins becoming a FA. The team has the rest of this season, the playoffs and all of next year to evaluate the roster.

Kuminga still looks like a quick 4 and drays replacement to me. A guy who can switch on defense, but not the guy u want constantly defending the point of attack. Wiggs replacement will have to come in a trade or through the draft. Unless klay can be that person again.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I’d guess that was shorthand for won’t-resign-here-after-next-season.

Gist of the article:

Basically the warriors wont have the space for him.

In 2023/24

Steph, dray, klay, wiseman, kuminga, moody will take up about 150 million of the cap , possibly 170 M if u include poole. Thats for only 7 players.

So, basically the decision will be to just let wiggs walk or trade him to a team with capspace with nothing coming back.

And that list doesn't include Looney who will be a FA this off-season. That article says he's due for a raise, suggesting a multiyear deal worth about $6M per. Do the Warriors really want to do that?

Yeah. I also didnt include any of the picks for the next 2 years either. Some tough decisions to be made.

[TrueFan420]

Gist of the article:

Basically the warriors wont have the space for him.

In 2023/24

Steph, dray, klay, wiseman, kuminga, moody will take up about 150 million of the cap , possibly 170 M if u include poole. Thats for only 7 players.

So, basically the decision will be to just let wiggs walk or trade him to a team with capspace with nothing coming back.

And that list doesn't include Looney who will be a FA this off-season. That article says he's due for a raise, suggesting a multiyear deal worth about $6M per. Do the Warriors really want to do that?

Yeah. I also didnt include any of the picks for the next 2 years either. Some tough decisions to be made.

I’m not so sure it’s that tough. If we’re winning the the ownership group will spend.

Comes down to 2 things.

One what Wiggins is after and how much someone offers for Poole. I don’t see Wiggins wanting to leave after finally getting somewhere where things are working. I suspect he takes a cut on his salary and stays. Poole we can match but it will be tough if someone offers him a max. Which could easily happen. And we can’t lose him.

The second piece is what Green and Klay do. The year that Wiggins and Poole get their next contract is a player option for Green. Does he opt out and take a cut for a team friendly deal (scheduled 27m). Then the following year Klay at 43 is up. Does he take a team friendly deal after missing 2 years of prime but getting paid. These guys will be older it’s not out of the question and if they do we can ride the wave of the young group while they take steps back. Gonna be real interesting to see. FO won’t force these guys out but what’s their plan… we won’t max them again. Not at that age. Do they want to keep playing. Dray seems ready to go into other things. Do they match the length of extensions to Curry in 25/26 and all go out together?

[xdrta+]

" how much someone offers for Poole."

That's why they will try to extend Poole this summer. They can offer him an extension up until opening day, after that it's a QO and restricted free agency the following summer. IMO, Poole would be taking a pretty big gamble to turn down a decent extension this summer in the hope that some team will make him a better offer in a year. Injuries happen, slumps happen, no telling just what teams will be looking for then or how much cap space anyone will have. If the Warriors offer the 4yr/$80M the article suggests, I think he would (at least should) jump on it.

[and1GS]

" how much someone offers for Poole."

That's why they will try to extend Poole this summer. They can offer him an extension up until opening day, after that it's a QO and restricted free agency the following summer. IMO, Poole would be taking a pretty big gamble to turn down a decent extension this summer in the hope that some team will make him a better offer in a year. Injuries happen, slumps happen, no telling just what teams will be looking for then or how much cap space anyone will have. If the Warriors offer the 4yr/$80M the article suggests, I think he would (at least should) jump on it.

I'd agree. What article are you referencing?

[EvanZ]

I think lowballing Poole this summer makes sense. If he takes it great, and if he becomes a gigantic superstar next year so be it. I doubt that happens. You definitely don't want to overpay him.

[HiRez]

" how much someone offers for Poole."

That's why they will try to extend Poole this summer. They can offer him an extension up until opening day, after that it's a QO and restricted free agency the following summer. IMO, Poole would be taking a pretty big gamble to turn down a decent extension this summer in the hope that some team will make him a better offer in a year. Injuries happen, slumps happen, no telling just what teams will be looking for then or how much cap space anyone will have. If the Warriors offer the 4yr/$80M the article suggests, I think he would (at least should) jump on it.

I'd agree. What article are you referencing?

Probably this:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/Andrew-Wiggins-is-an-All-Star-but-how-much-16936511.php

But it's paywalled, so summarized here:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-warriors-want-extend-jordan-130119090.html

Makes sense to lock him up for that amount if he's amenable.

[xdrta+]

" how much someone offers for Poole."

That's why they will try to extend Poole this summer. They can offer him an extension up until opening day, after that it's a QO and restricted free agency the following summer. IMO, Poole would be taking a pretty big gamble to turn down a decent extension this summer in the hope that some team will make him a better offer in a year. Injuries happen, slumps happen, no telling just what teams will be looking for then or how much cap space anyone will have. If the Warriors offer the 4yr/$80M the article suggests, I think he would (at least should) jump on it.

I'd agree. What article are you referencing?

The article by Connor Letourneau mentioned above--sorry, I guess there was no link to it. Here it is.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/Andrew-Wiggins-is-an-All-Star-but-how-much-16936511.php#photo-22091414

[watch1958]

And that list doesn't include Looney who will be a FA this off-season. That article says he's due for a raise, suggesting a multiyear deal worth about $6M per. Do the Warriors really want to do that?

Yeah. I also didnt include any of the picks for the next 2 years either. Some tough decisions to be made.

I’m not so sure it’s that tough. If we’re winning the the ownership group will spend.

Comes down to 2 things.

One what Wiggins is after and how much someone offers for Poole. I don’t see Wiggins wanting to leave after finally getting somewhere where things are working. I suspect he takes a cut on his salary and stays. Poole we can match but it will be tough if someone offers him a max. Which could easily happen. And we can’t lose him.

The second piece is what Green and Klay do. The year that Wiggins and Poole get their next contract is a player option for Green. Does he opt out and take a cut for a team friendly deal (scheduled 27m). Then the following year Klay at 43 is up. Does he take a team friendly deal after missing 2 years of prime but getting paid. These guys will be older it’s not out of the question and if they do we can ride the wave of the young group while they take steps back. Gonna be real interesting to see. FO won’t force these guys out but what’s their plan… we won’t max them again. Not at that age. Do they want to keep playing. Dray seems ready to go into other things. Do they match the length of extensions to Curry in 25/26 and all go out together?

A whole bunch rides on how the team does this year and next. Are they an NBA finals team both years? WCF? Champs?

[xdrta+]

" how much someone offers for Poole."

That's why they will try to extend Poole this summer. They can offer him an extension up until opening day, after that it's a QO and restricted free agency the following summer. IMO, Poole would be taking a pretty big gamble to turn down a decent extension this summer in the hope that some team will make him a better offer in a year. Injuries happen, slumps happen, no telling just what teams will be looking for then or how much cap space anyone will have. If the Warriors offer the 4yr/$80M the article suggests, I think he would (at least should) jump on it.

I'd agree. What article are you referencing?

Probably this:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/Andrew-Wiggins-is-an-All-Star-but-how-much-16936511.php

But it's paywalled, so summarized here:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-warriors-want-extend-jordan-130119090.html

Makes sense to lock him up for that amount if he's amenable.

Is it paywalled? I had no trouble getting to it.

[HiRez]

I'd agree. What article are you referencing?

Probably this:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/Andrew-Wiggins-is-an-All-Star-but-how-much-16936511.php

But it's paywalled, so summarized here:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-warriors-want-extend-jordan-130119090.html

Makes sense to lock him up for that amount if he's amenable.

Is it paywalled? I had no trouble getting to it.

sorry, it’s not actually paywalled, but it didn’t like my ad blocker (which on occasion is a content blocker).

[tarantism]

I think lowballing Poole this summer makes sense. If he takes it great, and if he becomes a gigantic superstar next year so be it. I doubt that happens. You definitely don't want to overpay him.

100% agree. Unless you think that Poole can continue to develop one of his playmaking or defense (POA, team, or both) then signing him to a big extension right now feels like a mistake.

It retrospect, Wiggins making the All Star team might have handicapped us in the end. I didn't think he would be expecting anything near the max for his next deal and might take something team friendly. Obviously we don't know for sure but it sounds like he wants to cash in.

That being said, he's a huge expiring deal next year, right? Maybe we can get something good for Wiggins and a few picks?

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[EvanZ]

I'm very skeptical Wiggins would get anything more than 4/120 and it's more like 4/100.