Why isn’t there a thread on Bronny?

[Big J]

So now y’all are blaming me for getting hated on? Folx, we really need to normalize being nicer to one another.

[SeattleJazzFan]

they way i see the bronny draft going - assuming he's still not a legit nba prospect when the time comes, you aren't going to get a lottery team to use a high pick just to get a 40 year old lebron. if you're picking in the lottery, you aren't going to contend by adding a 40 year old lebron so why waste that pick. however, if you are a contender picking in the 20s, you will absolutely "waste" that pick in order to add a dude in lebron (assuming he's healthy and is still a good player at that time) who can potentially help put you over the top for a title.

[Duke4life831]

and that's about 25 ranks too high just by simply being LeBron's kid.

if his name was Joe Smith literally no one would be talking about him.

Yup. If we want to break down his game this is my take on it.

He's a 6'3 combo guard that doesnt excel at any aspect of the game at the moment. He's a solid athlete but no major plus in that department for his size. Solid handle but nothing dynamic. Solid form on his shot, but not considered a knock down shooter.

That's pretty much it. Just for my usual Duke comparison haha. What makes Bronny a better prospect than say Jaden Schutt who is the 66th ranked prospect for the upcoming class? Schutt is bigger, the far far better shooter. Can get his shot off much easier off the dribble than Bronny. Take names out of it, what makes Bronny a better prospect than Schutt? There really is nothing wow about Bronny's game at the moment.

Now ya he could have a growth spurt, we can see his athleticism improve, his shot can end up getting really good, his handle can end up getting really tight and dynamic. But again that's one of the reasons we dont have too many threads for guys that are 2 years out from being in college. A lot of things can change, this includes guys that are ranked below Bronny that can shoot by him in the rankings. This is why its pretty pointless to have dedicated threads to Sophomores and Juniors in high school, especially ones ranked as low as Bronny.

I thought he was a senior, he’s a Sophomore? everyone has been tame as all hell in this thread.

He's a Junior currently. The 22 class are seniors and he's in the 23 class. But with that said Bronny isn't on a good trajectory. When he was a Sophomore he was a top 25 guy in his class, he's now fallen out of the top 50. And I think most people recognize him being around 50 is being pretty lenient and mostly because of his name.

[WargamesX]

they way i see the bronny draft going - assuming he's still not a legit nba prospect when the time comes, you aren't going to get a lottery team to use a high pick just to get a 40 year old lebron. if you're picking in the lottery, you aren't going to contend by adding a 40 year old lebron so why waste that pick. however, if you are a contender picking in the 20s, you will absolutely "waste" that pick in order to add a dude in lebron (assuming he's healthy and is still a good player at that time) who can potentially help put you over the top for a title.

That’s how I see it. LeBron on a minimum and Bronny who might have some upside….. There have been way worst uses of a pick in the 20’s than that.

[Ruzious]

Yea, and?

how are u being gaslit

Because people keep telling me that I haven’t been catching hate. It feels like I’m fighting against a village with no one backing me. Kinda feels like bullying tbh.

Please stop with the martyr act - obviously the folks here are too smart to buy it, and they've been extremely patient with you in explaining it. You knock them; you knock me, and I get sensitive and issue warnings, and I don't want to do that. Thanks.

[Duke4life831]

Alright Big J, how bout this. Everyone has said what they needed to say, what are your thoughts of Bronny as a player? Do you think he's properly ranked in his class? What do you think his upside is? Comparable players and so on?

[Big J]

how are u being gaslit

Because people keep telling me that I haven’t been catching hate. It feels like I’m fighting against a village with no one backing me. Kinda feels like bullying tbh.

Please stop with the martyr act - obviously the folks here are too smart to buy it, and they've been extremely patient with you in explaining it. You knock them; you knock me, and I get sensitive and issue warnings, and I don't want to do that. Thanks.

Sir, I am truly greatful for your words of wisdom. I will hold off on further calling people out, but with all due respect this is not an act. I am dealing with a lot of mental health issues lately, and can’t seem to catch a break.

[MemphisX]

This board said LaMelo was not a serious draft candidate too. So it is funny seeing him being the 4th youngest All Star in NBA history.

Fwiw, we were posting and praising LaMelo back in 2016 - when he was 15 years old. viewtopic.php?p=50860459#p50860459

YOU were praising him. It wasn't the consensus by a long shot and I am talking the season before he entered the draft. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1908726&hilit=Lamelo

[Ruzious]

This board said LaMelo was not a serious draft candidate too. So it is funny seeing him being the 4th youngest All Star in NBA history.

Fwiw, we were posting and praising LaMelo back in 2016 - when he was 15 years old. viewtopic.php?p=50860459#p50860459

YOU were praising him. It wasn't the consensus by a long shot and I am talking the season before he entered the draft. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1908726&hilit=Lamelo

There was no echo chamber about him - when he was 15 years old or when he was 17 years old. I'm absolutely sure there were several regular posters that loved his pro potential and were very vocal about it - because I remember a few. There was no board decision on him. To say "This board sad LaMelo was not a serious draft candidate" is nonsensical. Maybe some posters said that, but nobody speaks for this board; people speak for themselves around here.

[Ruzious]

Because people keep telling me that I haven’t been catching hate. It feels like I’m fighting against a village with no one backing me. Kinda feels like bullying tbh.

Please stop with the martyr act - obviously the folks here are too smart to buy it, and they've been extremely patient with you in explaining it. You knock them; you knock me, and I get sensitive and issue warnings, and I don't want to do that. Thanks.

Sir, I am truly greatful for your words of wisdom. I will hold off on further calling people out, but with all due respect this is not an act. I am dealing with a lot of mental health issues lately, and can’t seem to catch a break.

We're good, and I wish you the best and hope to see you posting more here.

[azcatz11]

You guys realize this dude is a troll who is the one who trolled the Cade thread for months.

[God Squad]

You guys realize this dude is a troll who is the one who trolled the Cade thread for months.

yup. Said he had characters issues because he was a father and all sorts of random stuff.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Is Bronny a five or four star recruit?

being rated as a four star right now, but imo, he's a three star talent as of now.

[clyde21]

Is Bronny a five or four star recruit?

being rated as a four star right now, but imo, he's a three star talent as of now.

yea, talent wise more 3 star than 4, only a 4 star because of his name at this point.

i think it's interesting how great players almost NEVER produce sons that can play bball at a high level for some reason.

by contrast, the best prospect in this class (Bari) is the son of what was a mediocre player, the best prospect in the 2024 draft class is DJ Wagner, another son of what was a pretty mediocre player.

just weird how that works.

[babyjax13]

Is Bronny a five or four star recruit?

being rated as a four star right now, but imo, he's a three star talent as of now.

yea, talent wise more 3 star than 4, only a 4 star because of his name at this point.

I actually disagree with this. I think 4 star is very appropriate for him (for now). We will know more by the time he's a senior, but for a junior he is impressive. But, he either needs to get bigger, or he needs to develop into an elite ball-handler to be more than a solid 2-guard at the college level.

[clyde21]

being rated as a four star right now, but imo, he's a three star talent as of now.

yea, talent wise more 3 star than 4, only a 4 star because of his name at this point.

I actually disagree with this. I think 4 star is very appropriate for him (for now). We will know more by the time he's a senior, but for a junior he is impressive. But, he either needs to get bigger, or he needs to develop into an elite ball-handler to be more than a solid 2-guard at the college level.

Bronny is like the 4th best player on his own HS team lol

[WargamesX]

Is Bronny a five or four star recruit?

being rated as a four star right now, but imo, he's a three star talent as of now.

yea, talent wise more 3 star than 4, only a 4 star because of his name at this point.

i think it's interesting how great players almost NEVER produce sons that can play bball at a high level for some reason.

by contrast, the best prospect in this class (Bari) is the son of what was a mediocre player, the best prospect in the 2024 draft class is DJ Wagner, another son of what was a pretty mediocre player.

just weird how that works.

If it’s like football their parents know exactly what kind of training they need to excel to the league and they won the genetic lottery. It sounds like if Bronny was taller he would also be a higher level recruit.

[clyde21]

being rated as a four star right now, but imo, he's a three star talent as of now.

yea, talent wise more 3 star than 4, only a 4 star because of his name at this point.

i think it's interesting how great players almost NEVER produce sons that can play bball at a high level for some reason.

by contrast, the best prospect in this class (Bari) is the son of what was a mediocre player, the best prospect in the 2024 draft class is DJ Wagner, another son of what was a pretty mediocre player.

just weird how that works.

If it’s like football their parents know exactly what kind of training they need to excel to the league and they won the genetic lottery. It sounds like if Bronny was taller he would also be a higher level recruit.

he's the same size as DJ Wagner and Wagner is ranked #1 in his entire class right now.

not gonna chalk it up to height, you can say that about pretty much every prospect.

[WargamesX]

yea, talent wise more 3 star than 4, only a 4 star because of his name at this point.

i think it's interesting how great players almost NEVER produce sons that can play bball at a high level for some reason.

by contrast, the best prospect in this class (Bari) is the son of what was a mediocre player, the best prospect in the 2024 draft class is DJ Wagner, another son of what was a pretty mediocre player.

just weird how that works.

If it’s like football their parents know exactly what kind of training they need to excel to the league and they won the genetic lottery. It sounds like if Bronny was taller he would also be a higher level recruit.

he's the same size as DJ Wagner and Wagner is ranked #1 in his entire class right now.

not gonna chalk it up to height, you can say that about pretty much every prospect.

True but at his skill level the height would definitely help. Not defending him just explaining why these kids of NBA stars excel. Look at Pippen’s kid. He has skill just not his father’s height.

[clyde21]

If it’s like football their parents know exactly what kind of training they need to excel to the league and they won the genetic lottery. It sounds like if Bronny was taller he would also be a higher level recruit.

he's the same size as DJ Wagner and Wagner is ranked #1 in his entire class right now.

not gonna chalk it up to height, you can say that about pretty much every prospect.

True but at his skill level the height would definitely help. Not defending him just explaining why these kids of NBA stars excel. Look at Pippen’s kid. He has skill just not his father’s height.

if he had the skill he'd be in the NBA right now - he clearly doesn't. you don't need to be 6-8 to contribute in the NBA.