How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason?

HairyGOATee · Post #41 » by **HairyGOATee** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:15 pm

Darren wrote:Possibly the Mavs gives Brunson the amount if the Mavs face LAC again and Brunson does not disappoint this team. The improvement of Brunson last two seasons are impressive. But Brunson still struggle against LAC this season.

He had a bad game against them, but then followed it up with a decent game. But the Clippers don't have Kawhi or PG back just yet.

I think the Mavs will be able to avoid them though.

Post #42 » by **cmavswin** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:37 am

I think this is going to depend on who wants out from where and if the Mavs want said player. Brunson is a nice player but $20 million nice? I am going to say pass and see if you can S&T him or let him walk.

41Dirk41 · Post #43 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:11 am

cmavswin wrote:I think this is going to depend on who wants out from where and if the Mavs want said player. Brunson is a nice player but $20 million nice? I am going to say pass and see if you can S&T him or let him walk.

Let him walk is not an option, we can lose talent for nothing.

Post #44 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:47 am

Brunson deserves more respect considering his emergence this season. He's our second option, and I expect us to extend him this off-season, not trade him. While it probably shouldn't be our second option, he is, and our front office must continue to find an upgrade, but that doesn't mean Brunson needs to be moved.

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sisibilio · Post #45 » by **sisibilio** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:15 am

HairyGOATee wrote:
Mr B wrote:
HairyGOATee wrote:
DFS got $13 million per year, and there are league sources that said he was worth $15-21 million AAV.
I don't know what Brunson's numbers are in that regard, but $100 million might be too much tbh. But I think $80 million is doable.

Now, what about $90 million? That comes out to $22.5 million. I think that's doable IF he front loads his contract.

I'm also hoping DFS' contract is front loaded.

Wasn’t it leaked that he’s looking for 4/$80M?

Yessir, and players usually get a little less than what they ask, but he may ask for something different by the end of the season.

15-20m a year is what an average starter makes these days so if he signed 80/4 that's a steal IMO.
I guess he's getting a better offer from Detroit or Houston.

HairyGOATee · Post #46 » by **HairyGOATee** » Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:59 am

cmavswin wrote:I think this is going to depend on who wants out from where and if the Mavs want said player. Brunson is a nice player but $20 million nice? I am going to say pass and see if you can S&T him or let him walk.

$20 million a year for him is a fair deal tbh.

Heezzi · Post #47 » by **Heezzi** » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:29 am

HairyGOATee wrote:
cmavswin wrote:I think this is going to depend on who wants out from where and if the Mavs want said player. Brunson is a nice player but $20 million nice? I am going to say pass and see if you can S&T him or let him walk.

$20 million a year for him is a fair deal tbh.

Nope.

arkuo · Post #48 » by **arkuo** » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:41 am

I'd see what Detroit can sign and trade Brunson for.

Isaiah Stewart + Kelly Olynyk + Killian Hayes should do as a package for Brunson.

Stweart is your futute starting center. Olynyk is the bd contract you take in. He should also replace Boban as backup C eventually. And Hayes replaces Brunson off the bench. Dinwiddie gets elevated as starter.

41Dirk41 · Post #49 » by **41Dirk41** » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:22 am

Another PO type game and another mediocre game by JB... I'm little bit worried.

arkuo · Post #50 » by **arkuo** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 5:32 am

Jalen Brunson is the 2022 version of Jamal Tinsley in 2004. 15 pts and 6 ast type of player. Tinsley earned $1.5M that year. Extrapolate that to 2022 rates and it still won't amount to an $80M for 4 years contract.

Brunson is the type of player you acquire after the fact. After you assemble a super team, you add a guy like him to reinforce that 2nd unit. Tying up cap space for Brunson, THJ, Dinwiddie and Bertans would be dangerous. Dinwiddie + a backup PG can run that PG spot. At this point, Nico needs to look around for sign and trade scenarios for Brunson. Maybe Detroit, maybe New York. That way he can get the $80M that he wants, and get some return for the Mavs. Hopefully a center.

Darren · Post #51 » by **Darren** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 10:27 am

Dennis Schroder wants similar contract as well. I am not sure Brunson is better than Schroder. It depends on playoff performance.

Post #52 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 10:55 am

Darren wrote:Dennis Schroder wants similar contract as well. I am not sure Brunson is better than Schroder. It depends on playoff performance.

Brunson is a better player then Schroder, and if you factor in leadership and personality, it's no contest.

daoneandonly · Post #53 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 1:07 pm

16 mil a year is the max i'd offer. if he wants more, only detroit, sa, and orl i believe cna give it to him. If he wants to go to another team that wants to pay him, work out a S&T where we can get a 5

Archx · Post #54 » by **Archx** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 1:15 pm

daoneandonly wrote:16 mil a year is the max i'd offer. if he wants more, only detroit, sa, and orl i believe cna give it to him. If he wants to go to another team that wants to pay him, work out a S&T where we can get a 5

I said 17M some time ago. I guess 15-18 range is something people generally agree with. Anything over 20 should be an overpay.

But problem is Mavs also can't afford to let talent go just like that. They already have almost zero trade pieces so this team is basically back to where they were 3 seasons ago. Desperately in need of a rim protector. If teams go small Kidd can even play Luka at the center position because it actually works but that's still not a solution vs guys like Jokic or Giannis etc..

Post #55 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 1:26 pm

daoneandonly wrote:16 mil a year is the max i'd offer. if he wants more, only detroit, sa, and orl i believe cna give it to him. If he wants to go to another team that wants to pay him, work out a S&T where we can get a 5

THJ git 18.5/yr, that's the bottom for Brunson, I think he'll get 80/4, unless he continues to fade or haev a catastrophic PO like last year.

daoneandonly · Post #56 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 2:04 pm

KhalilS wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:16 mil a year is the max i'd offer. if he wants more, only detroit, sa, and orl i believe cna give it to him. If he wants to go to another team that wants to pay him, work out a S&T where we can get a 5

THJ git 18.5/yr, that's the bottom for Brunson, I think he'll get 80/4, unless he continues to fade or haev a catastrophic PO like last year.

i dont think we can approach it like that. just because we overpaid thj doesnt mean we should do the same for JB. we cant just keep doubling down like that. he's a good player, but he shouldnt be making more than guys like OG or Trent Jr. If he wants something big, let him go to Detroit, doubt he would want to. If he wants a big payday elsewhere, that team would have to give something to Dallas more than likely.

Post #57 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 2:07 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
KhalilS wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:16 mil a year is the max i'd offer. if he wants more, only detroit, sa, and orl i believe cna give it to him. If he wants to go to another team that wants to pay him, work out a S&T where we can get a 5

THJ git 18.5/yr, that's the bottom for Brunson, I think he'll get 80/4, unless he continues to fade or haev a catastrophic PO like last year.

i dont think we can approach it like that. just because we overpaid thj doesnt mean we should do the same for JB. we cant just keep doubling down like that. he's a good player, but he shouldnt be making more than guys like OG or Trent Jr. If he wants something big, let him go to Detroit, doubt he would want to. If he wants a big payday elsewhere, that team would have to give something to Dallas more than likely.

It's bad for the locker room to have a better player paid less, Mavs won't have cap space anytime soon, between 70/4 and 80/4 there isn't much difference.

41Dirk41 · Post #58 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 2:12 pm

KhalilS wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
KhalilS wrote:THJ git 18.5/yr, that's the bottom for Brunson, I think he'll get 80/4, unless he continues to fade or haev a catastrophic PO like last year.

i dont think we can approach it like that. just because we overpaid thj doesnt mean we should do the same for JB. we cant just keep doubling down like that. he's a good player, but he shouldnt be making more than guys like OG or Trent Jr. If he wants something big, let him go to Detroit, doubt he would want to. If he wants a big payday elsewhere, that team would have to give something to Dallas more than likely.

It's bad for the locker room to have a better player paid less, Mavs won't have cap space anytime soon, between 70/4 and 80/4 there isn't much difference.

Yes money aren't a problem in our cap situation, anyway we can trade Brunson everyday. Pay him.

Sitting Luka a couple games and let Brunson lead the team would increase his numbers and his trade value in 1 month. No problem.

daoneandonly · Post #59 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 2:15 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
KhalilS wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
i dont think we can approach it like that. just because we overpaid thj doesnt mean we should do the same for JB. we cant just keep doubling down like that. he's a good player, but he shouldnt be making more than guys like OG or Trent Jr. If he wants something big, let him go to Detroit, doubt he would want to. If he wants a big payday elsewhere, that team would have to give something to Dallas more than likely.

It's bad for the locker room to have a better player paid less, Mavs won't have cap space anytime soon, between 70/4 and 80/4 there isn't much difference.

Yes money aren't a problem in our cap situation, anyway we can trade Brunson everyday. Pay him.

Sitting Luka a couple games and let Brunson lead the team would increase his numbers and his trade value in 1 month. No problem.

I'd argue DFS is more valuable than THJ, he had no problem taking a smaller contract. If JB has an overflated self worth, then we're better off without him. He was a huge reason we lost the LAC series, and we dont owe him a thing. We passed on a better player in Trent Jr to draft him, so its not like the Mavs havent done right by him.

Post #60 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 2:39 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
KhalilS wrote:It's bad for the locker room to have a better player paid less, Mavs won't have cap space anytime soon, between 70/4 and 80/4 there isn't much difference.

Yes money aren't a problem in our cap situation, anyway we can trade Brunson everyday. Pay him.

Sitting Luka a couple games and let Brunson lead the team would increase his numbers and his trade value in 1 month. No problem.

I'd argue DFS is more valuable than THJ, he had no problem taking a smaller contract. If JB has an overflated self worth, then we're better off without him. He was a huge reason we lost the LAC series, and we dont owe him a thing. We passed on a better player in Trent Jr to draft him, so its not like the Mavs havent done right by him.

DFS made his choice, he got the maximum ocntract he could get, Mavs couldn't offer more under the CBA, he could've waited till the offseason and receive more, but he preferred the guarantee, Brunson expects more the 55/4 so he made the gamble.
I agree with you about the Clippers series, I prefer Mavs work a S&T (Brunson needs to agree of course), for Sexton, but Clippers are bad matchup for him, against the Suns for example he should do better.