OT: Russia-Ukraine War

[HarthorneWingo]

In further support of my argument that Putin is a lone wolf, who does he answer to in the Russian government? The highest court? The Parliament or Congress or whatever they call it? He’s accountable to no one. A delusional sociopath.

[cgmw]

Look at the part of your post I bolded. I'm just commenting on the idea that you can't oppress people and succeed in the long run. Everyone succeeding is oppressing. That's how the world has been since the start of colonialism unfortunately.

What did the Mongols do?

The Mongols weren't the only world power at the time and they didn't succeed long term if the standard of succeeding long term is based on modern versions of that concept. The European powers have lasted twice as long as the Mongolian empire.

Couple things:

1) I’m a little drunk atm and would like to apologize for my foolhardiness in the face of actual hardship faced by millions of my fellow humans; but…

2) DYK genetically every human on earth can trace their lineage to a single male ancestor of Asian origin during the times of the Monguls? Literally every one of us can trace our genetic heritage back to a brief time in human history when horses carried non-lactose* warriors between Asia and Europe.

Take that colonialism! Knicks board FTW.

Spoiler:

*I mention lactose because apparently the Monguls defeated the Chinese because they could survive on horse milk while their adversaries needed to haul rice.

**If you’ve read this far, everything I’ve said is true but also this is what you get for receiving your current events from the RGM Knicks board. Read Reuters ffs you maniac

[Gorilla Monsoon]

I think it's wild how....some folks....think any criticism of Joe Biden or the left is a Russian conspiracy, but will also call you an incoherent nut job if you bring other, broader conspiracy theories to the discussion.

This country and this planet has millions of corrupt people who do disgustingly corrupt things. This is a fact. And to be truly corrupt, you have to be in some position of power. This is also a fact. Now, being that you cannot have power and be corrupt at the same time without conspiring with other corrupt, powerful people (also known as a conspiracy), I'm just utterly confused as to why the very mention of a conspiracy theory is simply not tolerable for.... some folks.

Again, maybe I'm just an uneducated, right-wing dullard who has fallen for Putin's propaganda... but this is so hard to wrap my head around. Conspiracies are impossible but also prevalent at the same time. It's okay to hate America and those who are proud to call themselves American, but wrong to criticize a certain administration or particular politcal party?

America is bad, but the American government are the good guys?

There's no chance the media as a whole has been lying to us and manipulating us for decades on end, but at the same time.... Putin has infiltrated one specific news network in particular, and through Tucker Carlson has successfully warped the minds of half the country in order to undermine democrats and ultimately destroy us all.

Apparently anyone else who regularly consumes CNN, MSNBC and the like have been given nothing but facts, and are still perfectly normal so long as they vote blue.

It's exhausting to read.

These....folks.... also tend to have lots and lots of predictions that never come true lol. That part is entertaining, I guess. But I'm the fool. There is no false binary. There is no left/right paradigm here. It's simply a world of corruption and conspiracy versus poor old Joe Biden and his well-intentioned colleagues and cohorts in the American government, working tirelessly to right this ship.

Sure, buddy.

[8516knicks]

What did the Mongols do?

The Mongols weren't the only world power at the time and they didn't succeed long term if the standard of succeeding long term is based on modern versions of that concept. The European powers have lasted twice as long as the Mongolian empire.

Couple things:

1) I’m a little drunk atm and would like to apologize for my foolhardiness in the face of actual hardship faced by millions of my fellow humans; but…

2) DYK genetically every human on earth can trace their lineage to a single male ancestor of Asian origin during the times of the Monguls? Literally every one of us can trace our genetic heritage back to a brief time in human history when horses carried non-lactose* warriors between Asia and Europe.

Take that colonialism! Knicks board FTW.

Spoiler:

*I mention lactose because apparently the Monguls defeated the Chinese because they could survive on horse milk while their adversaries needed to haul rice.

**If you’ve read this far, everything I’ve said is true but also this is what you get for receiving your current events from the RGM Knicks board. Read Reuters ffs you maniac

Horse Milk? I've lead a sheltered life!

[HarthorneWingo]

I think it's wild how....some folks....think any criticism of Joe Biden or the left is a Russian conspiracy, but will also call you an incoherent nut job if you bring other, broader conspiracy theories to the discussion.

This country and this planet has millions of corrupt people who do disgustingly corrupt things. This is a fact. And to be truly corrupt, you have to be in some position of power. This is also a fact. Now, being that you cannot have power and be corrupt at the same time without conspiring with other corrupt, powerful people (also known as a conspiracy), I'm just utterly confused as to why the very mention of a conspiracy theory is simply not tolerable for.... some folks.

Again, maybe I'm just an uneducated, right-wing dullard who has fallen for Putin's propaganda... but this is so hard to wrap my head around. Conspiracies are impossible but also prevalent at the same time. It's okay to hate America and those who are proud to call themselves American, but wrong to criticize a certain administration or particular politcal party?

America is bad, but the American government are the good guys?

There's no chance the media as a whole has been lying to us and manipulating us for decades on end, but at the same time.... Putin has infiltrated one specific news network in particular, and through Tucker Carlson has successfully warped the minds of half the country in order to undermine democrats and ultimately destroy us all.

Apparently anyone else who regularly consumes CNN, MSNBC and the like have been given nothing but facts, and are still perfectly normal so long as they vote blue.

It's exhausting to read.

These....folks.... also tend to have lots and lots of predictions that never come true lol. That part is entertaining, I guess. But I'm the fool. There is no false binary. There is no left/right paradigm here. It's simply a world of corruption and conspiracy versus poor old Joe Biden and his well-intentioned colleagues and cohorts in the American government, working tirelessly to right this ship.

Sure, buddy.

Can I boil this down into a paragraph? It’s 2:35 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dakomish23]

I think it's wild how....some folks....think any criticism of Joe Biden or the left is a Russian conspiracy, but will also call you an incoherent nut job if you bring other, broader conspiracy theories to the discussion.

This country and this planet has millions of corrupt people who do disgustingly corrupt things. This is a fact. And to be truly corrupt, you have to be in some position of power. This is also a fact. Now, being that you cannot have power and be corrupt at the same time without conspiring with other corrupt, powerful people (also known as a conspiracy), I'm just utterly confused as to why the very mention of a conspiracy theory is simply not tolerable for.... some folks.

Again, maybe I'm just an uneducated, right-wing dullard who has fallen for Putin's propaganda... but this is so hard to wrap my head around. Conspiracies are impossible but also prevalent at the same time. It's okay to hate America and those who are proud to call themselves American, but wrong to criticize a certain administration or particular politcal party?

America is bad, but the American government are the good guys?

There's no chance the media as a whole has been lying to us and manipulating us for decades on end, but at the same time.... Putin has infiltrated one specific news network in particular, and through Tucker Carlson has successfully warped the minds of half the country in order to undermine democrats and ultimately destroy us all.

Apparently anyone else who regularly consumes CNN, MSNBC and the like have been given nothing but facts, and are still perfectly normal so long as they vote blue.

It's exhausting to read.

These....folks.... also tend to have lots and lots of predictions that never come true lol. That part is entertaining, I guess. But I'm the fool. There is no false binary. There is no left/right paradigm here. It's simply a world of corruption and conspiracy versus poor old Joe Biden and his well-intentioned colleagues and cohorts in the American government, working tirelessly to right this ship.

Sure, buddy.

I will say flat out that there’s plenty of corrupt ppl on both sides.

But on this issue, one side was desperately rooting for Putin & constantly performing mental gymnastics to somehow make their wannabe king look like some savior.

Exhibit A:

Read on Twitter

[HarthorneWingo]

I think it's wild how....some folks....think any criticism of Joe Biden or the left is a Russian conspiracy, but will also call you an incoherent nut job if you bring other, broader conspiracy theories to the discussion.

This country and this planet has millions of corrupt people who do disgustingly corrupt things. This is a fact. And to be truly corrupt, you have to be in some position of power. This is also a fact. Now, being that you cannot have power and be corrupt at the same time without conspiring with other corrupt, powerful people (also known as a conspiracy), I'm just utterly confused as to why the very mention of a conspiracy theory is simply not tolerable for.... some folks.

Again, maybe I'm just an uneducated, right-wing dullard who has fallen for Putin's propaganda... but this is so hard to wrap my head around. Conspiracies are impossible but also prevalent at the same time. It's okay to hate America and those who are proud to call themselves American, but wrong to criticize a certain administration or particular politcal party?

America is bad, but the American government are the good guys?

There's no chance the media as a whole has been lying to us and manipulating us for decades on end, but at the same time.... Putin has infiltrated one specific news network in particular, and through Tucker Carlson has successfully warped the minds of half the country in order to undermine democrats and ultimately destroy us all.

Apparently anyone else who regularly consumes CNN, MSNBC and the like have been given nothing but facts, and are still perfectly normal so long as they vote blue.

It's exhausting to read.

These....folks.... also tend to have lots and lots of predictions that never come true lol. That part is entertaining, I guess. But I'm the fool. There is no false binary. There is no left/right paradigm here. It's simply a world of corruption and conspiracy versus poor old Joe Biden and his well-intentioned colleagues and cohorts in the American government, working tirelessly to right this ship.

Sure, buddy.

I will say flat out that there’s plenty of corrupt ppl on both sides.

But on this issue, one side was desperately rooting for Putin & constantly performing mental gymnastics to somehow make their wannabe king look like some savior.

Exhibit A:

Read on Twitter

That's the problem with these right wing clowns. They're simply opportunists looking to take a kernel of truth and twist it into something else, like D'Souza here. It's Play #2 out of the GOP playbook and it's very much overused. Right, Gorilla Bill (you should change your username to this)?

And I object to D'Souza having a "Sousa" - as in the great American songwriter John Phillips Sousa who must be rolling in his grave - in his last name! ... "NO RELATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Where did this creep come from? What makes him an authority on anything? Bill, help me out here. D'Souza doesn't want to recognize that Putin fcked up here. He's blowing him just like Trump has and still is. Any American saying that (1) Putin is showing up America, and (2) it's because Biden is POTUS is being silly. Gorilla Bill, you don't believe this do you?

[duetta]

I think it's wild how....some folks....think any criticism of Joe Biden or the left is a Russian conspiracy, but will also call you an incoherent nut job if you bring other, broader conspiracy theories to the discussion.

This country and this planet has millions of corrupt people who do disgustingly corrupt things. This is a fact. And to be truly corrupt, you have to be in some position of power. This is also a fact. Now, being that you cannot have power and be corrupt at the same time without conspiring with other corrupt, powerful people (also known as a conspiracy), I'm just utterly confused as to why the very mention of a conspiracy theory is simply not tolerable for.... some folks.

Again, maybe I'm just an uneducated, right-wing dullard who has fallen for Putin's propaganda... but this is so hard to wrap my head around. Conspiracies are impossible but also prevalent at the same time. It's okay to hate America and those who are proud to call themselves American, but wrong to criticize a certain administration or particular politcal party?

America is bad, but the American government are the good guys?

There's no chance the media as a whole has been lying to us and manipulating us for decades on end, but at the same time.... Putin has infiltrated one specific news network in particular, and through Tucker Carlson has successfully warped the minds of half the country in order to undermine democrats and ultimately destroy us all.

Apparently anyone else who regularly consumes CNN, MSNBC and the like have been given nothing but facts, and are still perfectly normal so long as they vote blue.

It's exhausting to read.

These....folks.... also tend to have lots and lots of predictions that never come true lol. That part is entertaining, I guess. But I'm the fool. There is no false binary. There is no left/right paradigm here. It's simply a world of corruption and conspiracy versus poor old Joe Biden and his well-intentioned colleagues and cohorts in the American government, working tirelessly to right this ship.

Sure, buddy.

I will say flat out that there’s plenty of corrupt ppl on both sides.

But on this issue, one side was desperately rooting for Putin & constantly performing mental gymnastics to somehow make their wannabe king look like some savior.

Exhibit A:

Read on Twitter

I wonder how much anal sex de Sousa enjoyed in jail? Never have I come across a fouler propagandist.

[HarthorneWingo]

I think it's wild how....some folks....think any criticism of Joe Biden or the left is a Russian conspiracy, but will also call you an incoherent nut job if you bring other, broader conspiracy theories to the discussion.

This country and this planet has millions of corrupt people who do disgustingly corrupt things. This is a fact. And to be truly corrupt, you have to be in some position of power. This is also a fact. Now, being that you cannot have power and be corrupt at the same time without conspiring with other corrupt, powerful people (also known as a conspiracy), I'm just utterly confused as to why the very mention of a conspiracy theory is simply not tolerable for.... some folks.

Again, maybe I'm just an uneducated, right-wing dullard who has fallen for Putin's propaganda... but this is so hard to wrap my head around. Conspiracies are impossible but also prevalent at the same time. It's okay to hate America and those who are proud to call themselves American, but wrong to criticize a certain administration or particular politcal party?

America is bad, but the American government are the good guys?

There's no chance the media as a whole has been lying to us and manipulating us for decades on end, but at the same time.... Putin has infiltrated one specific news network in particular, and through Tucker Carlson has successfully warped the minds of half the country in order to undermine democrats and ultimately destroy us all.

Apparently anyone else who regularly consumes CNN, MSNBC and the like have been given nothing but facts, and are still perfectly normal so long as they vote blue.

It's exhausting to read.

These....folks.... also tend to have lots and lots of predictions that never come true lol. That part is entertaining, I guess. But I'm the fool. There is no false binary. There is no left/right paradigm here. It's simply a world of corruption and conspiracy versus poor old Joe Biden and his well-intentioned colleagues and cohorts in the American government, working tirelessly to right this ship.

Sure, buddy.

I will say flat out that there’s plenty of corrupt ppl on both sides.

But on this issue, one side was desperately rooting for Putin & constantly performing mental gymnastics to somehow make their wannabe king look like some savior.

Exhibit A:

Read on Twitter

I wonder how much anal sex de Sousa enjoyed in jail? Never have I come across a fouler propagandist.

D'Souza was in jail? Really?

[Gorilla Monsoon]

But the thing with me is.... I hate the term "both sides". I resent false binaries. The left/right paradigm is a spell. It's like Pepsi vs. Coke. Different flavor, same harmful ingredients that will give you diabetes, heart disease and cancer. It's the perfect tool to divide us and kill us.

I was never a republican or a democrat. I have conservative values, yes. And I once supported Trump because a younger me was admittedly duped into thinking he was a true "outsider" for a period of time. That stems from my long-standing interest in conspiracy theories, and the belief that a group of global elite/banksters (possibly with separate factions amongst them) is attempting to consolidate all of the world's super powers into a one-world-government (hence constant tensions with China, Russia and the Middle East) (also, hence elimination of borders, digital passports, social credit scores, etc. But I digress).

When Trump started speaking about the deep state, and the media all turned on him at once (including Fox early on), I thought to myself "this is it". This guy was rich enough to fund his own campaign, ballsy and media savvy enough to take their arrows, and old enough to not give a sh*t if it ended with his own assassination. If you ask me now - I see it as a brilliant ruse to turn the "truther community" into republican voters and Q-tards who passionately believed they were over the target, while a ton of other horrible sh*t was going down behind the scenes. It's always a bait and switch with the ruling class, and this was no different. The psy-op of all psy-ops.

Still... I'm man enough and wise enough to admit when I'm wrong, and I have. Yet some.... folks.... still talk to me like I'm a piece of trash because of it. And that's okay.

Even if my (and millions of others') theory on the NWO is far-fetched, I don't see how it's a physical impossibility, and I see no harm in discussing the topic with open-minded individuals instead of sitting around talking about how college educated we all are and exchanging links from the same "verified sources", which are just mainstream news sites claiming to blow the whistle on important world issues without ever solving or exposing any of the real crimes against humanity.

Again, I don't see how, for some, it's a given that Putin and his oligarchs have propagandized America and the west so severely that we've been brought to the brink of total destruction, but it's out of the question to think other governments, organizations and secret societies (for the lack of a better term) have tried to do the same with similar tools and methods. If Putin and Russia would go to such an extent, I don't see how it's so absurdly unrealistic to think other nefarious groups have already had puppets in our media, congress and the White House for MANY years before (as well as during and after) Trump, beholden to their policies and plans by way of campaign donations, money laundering schemes and blackmail (i.e. Epstein).

Either way, I'm sooooo done with republican vs. democrat. I acknowledge that there are imbeciles and bad people on "both sides", but the choice we all have is to break free of the idea that we are at war with each other and love thy neighbor regardless of our differences in opinion, culture, lifestyle, religious and political views, etc. It's the only way out of this mess IMO. "United we stand, divided we fall". And it seems the more science and technology makes us more "connected", the more we hate each other and detach from one another, which is no coincidence.

I know I've let my emotions get the best of me many times here, have flung sh*t at some of you and have been booted for my political takes on numerous occasions... but I still have love for you all. That's all I have to say, and I'm sure I'll still be flamed and called an idiot for some of these ideas, but I don't care. It's what I believe to be true in my heart.

[HarthorneWingo]

But the thing with me is.... I hate the term "both sides". I resent false binaries. The left/right paradigm is a spell. It's like Pepsi vs. Coke. Different flavor, same harmful ingredients that will give you diabetes, heart disease and cancer. It's the perfect tool to divide us and kill us.

I was never a republican or a democrat. I have conservative values, yes. And I once supported Trump because a younger me was admittedly duped into thinking he was a true "outsider" for a period of time. That stems from my long-standing interest in conspiracy theories, and the belief that a group of global elite/banksters (possibly with separate factions amongst them) is attempting to consolidate all of the world's super powers into a one-world-government (hence constant tensions with China, Russia and the Middle East) (also, hence elimination of borders, digital passports, social credit scores, etc. But I digress).

When Trump started speaking about the deep state, and the media all turned on him at once (including Fox early on), I thought to myself "this is it". This guy was rich enough to fund his own campaign, ballsy and media savvy enough to take their arrows, and old enough to not give a sh*t if it ended with his own assassination. If you ask me now - I see it as a brilliant ruse to turn the "truther community" into republican voters and Q-tards who passionately believed they were over the target, while a ton of other horrible sh*t was going down behind the scenes. It's always a bait and switch with the ruling class, and this was no different. The psy-op of all psy-ops.

Still... I'm man enough and wise enough to admit when I'm wrong, and I have. Yet some.... folks.... still talk to me like I'm a piece of trash because of it. And that's okay.

Even if my (and millions of others') theory on the NWO is far-fetched, I don't see how it's a physical impossibility, and I see no harm in discussing the topic with open-minded individuals instead of sitting around talking about how college educated we all are and exchanging links from the same "verified sources", which are just mainstream news sites claiming to blow the whistle on important world issues without ever solving or exposing any of the real crimes against humanity.

Again, I don't see how, for some, it's a given that Putin and his oligarchs have propagandized America and the west so severely that we've been brought to the brink of total destruction, but it's out of the question to think other governments, organizations and secret societies (for the lack of a better term) have tried to do the same with similar tools and methods. If Putin and Russia would go to such an extent, I don't see how it's so absurdly unrealistic to think other nefarious groups have already had puppets in our media, congress and the White House for MANY years before (as well as during and after) Trump, beholden to their policies and plans by way of campaign donations, money laundering schemes and blackmail (i.e. Epstein).

Either way, I'm sooooo done with republican vs. democrat. I acknowledge that there are imbeciles and bad people on "both sides", but the choice we all have is to break free of the idea that we are at war with each other and love thy neighbor regardless of our differences in opinion, culture, lifestyle, religious and political views, etc. It's the only way out of this mess IMO. "United we stand, divided we fall". And it seems the more science and technology makes us more "connected", the more we hate each other and detach from one another, which is no coincidence.

I know I've let my emotions get the best of me many times here, have flung sh*t at some of you and have been booted for my political takes on numerous occasions... but I still have love for you all. That's all I have to say, and I'm sure I'll still be flamed and called an idiot for some of these ideas, but I don't care. It's what I believe to be true in my heart.

[HarthorneWingo]

I agree with Jon Stewart here. I think Putin is driving Russia over a cliff.

Watch on YouTube

[gavran]

The Mongols weren't the only world power at the time and they didn't succeed long term if the standard of succeeding long term is based on modern versions of that concept. The European powers have lasted twice as long as the Mongolian empire.

Couple things:

1) I’m a little drunk atm and would like to apologize for my foolhardiness in the face of actual hardship faced by millions of my fellow humans; but…

2) DYK genetically every human on earth can trace their lineage to a single male ancestor of Asian origin during the times of the Monguls? Literally every one of us can trace our genetic heritage back to a brief time in human history when horses carried non-lactose* warriors between Asia and Europe.

Take that colonialism! Knicks board FTW.

Spoiler:

*I mention lactose because apparently the Monguls defeated the Chinese because they could survive on horse milk while their adversaries needed to haul rice.

**If you’ve read this far, everything I’ve said is true but also this is what you get for receiving your current events from the RGM Knicks board. Read Reuters ffs you maniac

Horse Milk? I've lead a sheltered life!

We make booze out of horse milk. Nomads >>>

[HarthorneWingo]

Couple things:

1) I’m a little drunk atm and would like to apologize for my foolhardiness in the face of actual hardship faced by millions of my fellow humans; but…

2) DYK genetically every human on earth can trace their lineage to a single male ancestor of Asian origin during the times of the Monguls? Literally every one of us can trace our genetic heritage back to a brief time in human history when horses carried non-lactose* warriors between Asia and Europe.

Take that colonialism! Knicks board FTW.

Spoiler:

*I mention lactose because apparently the Monguls defeated the Chinese because they could survive on horse milk while their adversaries needed to haul rice.

**If you’ve read this far, everything I’ve said is true but also this is what you get for receiving your current events from the RGM Knicks board. Read Reuters ffs you maniac

Horse Milk? I've lead a sheltered life!

We make booze out of horse milk. Nomads >>>

Horse milk? What's wrong with grapes? Ever have Albanian raki?

[duetta]

D'Souza was in jail? Really?

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/newyork/news/press-releases/dinesh-dsouza-sentenced-in-manhattan-federal-court-to-five-years-of-probation-for-campaign-finance-fraud

[Nykbacker]

I voted for Joe Biden. I trust him to handle Putin. He’s a great man and terrific leader.

[gavran]

Horse Milk? I've lead a sheltered life!

We make booze out of horse milk. Nomads >>>

Horse milk? What's wrong with grapes? Ever have Albanian raki?

There are no grapes on the steps just horses and their milk.

[Pointgod]

Anyone who believes the Ukranian government, who’s President is Jewish, is full of Nazis is a complete **** moron and has fallen down the rabbit hole of Russian propaganda. Ask yourself why you’re conveniently hearing about Nazis in Ukranian government when Russia is starting a war with them and is the obvious aggressor.

The truth is that there are far right neo Nazis in Ukraine fighting against Russian aggression that’s true. Some of these groups have also been absorbed into the Ukranian army that’s also true. But it’s absolute bull to spread Putin’s lie that he’s fighting Nazis when he himself has pushed far right/Nazi parties across Europe and North America. This is a situation where the enemy of my enemy is a friend and the Ukrainians will need to deal with the far right at another time because they’re just fighting to survive right now.

[Pointgod]

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[Nykbacker]

Anyone who believes the Ukranian government, who’s President is Jewish, is full of Nazis is a complete **** moron and has fallen down the rabbit hole of Russian propaganda. Ask yourself why you’re conveniently hearing about Nazis in Ukranian government when Russia is starting a war with them and is the obvious aggressor.

The truth is that there are far right neo Nazis in Ukraine fighting against Russian aggression that’s true. Some of these groups have also been absorbed into the Ukranian army that’s also true. But it’s absolute bull to spread Putin’s lie that he’s fighting Nazis when he himself has pushed far right/Nazi parties across Europe and North America. This is a situation where the enemy of my enemy is a friend and the Ukrainians will need to deal with the far right at another time because they’re just fighting to survive right now.

I do think Twitter should stop glorifying him as much they are. The real hero is Joe Biden.