Nets @ Cheesehead Bucks ABC Primtime 8:30 EST Game Thread

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Between Dre, Dragic and to some degree Brown, it'll hard to decide which player Marks should give mMLE. Not going to lie, not exited to make that decision.

[therealbig3]

I'd take Brown...Dragic is 35 and at the end of his career, and Dre is a journeyman at this point who I don't think is actually a legit contributor on a championship team...Brown is young and can still be an impact player imo. We saw how good he could be last year when there's legit offensive talent on the team that takes attention away from him. Obviously, with the garbage lineups we're putting out there right now, he can't do much, but when we're actually healthy, I think he can be legit.

Hate to say it, because I like the guy a lot, but Griffin has just been useless dead weight so far this season. Nothing like the guy he was last year when he came here. Was excited that we brought him back, because it really did look like he was still a productive vet that could be a big part of a title run, but now he really does look like a shell of himself. Can't shoot, can't finish, can't defend...just...not good at all. LMA is pretty washed too, but at least he can make some jumpers.

[ecuhus1981]

I'm pretty sure Nash was overachieving last year with a depleted roster most of the time, I'm not sure where this "Nash can't get the team to play hard" or he can't beat teams with better talent stuff comes from.

It's been rough this year for sure, and we've been getting beaten down a lot recently, but our talent level really is that bad when you have our top 4 players in street clothes. Like seriously, no, the Clippers do not have similar talent to us while missing their 2 best players, because the rest of their players are still clearly better than ours.

People just aren't realistic with what we've got. We'll play better once we get our horses back.

I'll take this one.

Nets minus 3 of our 4 best players: Irving, Curry, Dragic, Brown, Griffin, Claxton, Drummond, Mills

Clippers minus their 2 best players: Jackson, Morris, Zubac, Batum, Mann, Kennard, Hartlestein, Covington (who's been a shell of himself all season)

I say we have a better team along these 2 lists. The Clippers also do not have great player leadership. There is clearly a giant gulf between BKN and LAC, in terms of coaching leadership and acumen. Lue has gotten the best out of this team, they play hard and smart.

I'm not going to re-litigate the past, I was never a big Tyronn proponent. In retrospect, I wish we had chosen him, but I'm not going to call it a Marks mistake. Heck, we don't even know that he would've chosen us, or that we didn't offer him.

The Nash that you believe overachieved last season with depleted lineups is gone. His all-time legendary assistant coaching staff propped him up last year, now he only has a very good cadre of assistants. His shortcomings are laid bare, the emperor has no clothes.

[therealbig3]

I'm pretty sure Nash was overachieving last year with a depleted roster most of the time, I'm not sure where this "Nash can't get the team to play hard" or he can't beat teams with better talent stuff comes from.

It's been rough this year for sure, and we've been getting beaten down a lot recently, but our talent level really is that bad when you have our top 4 players in street clothes. Like seriously, no, the Clippers do not have similar talent to us while missing their 2 best players, because the rest of their players are still clearly better than ours.

People just aren't realistic with what we've got. We'll play better once we get our horses back.

I'll take this one.

Nets minus 3 of our 4 best players: Irving, Curry, Dragic, Brown, Griffin, Claxton, Drummond, Mills

Clippers minus their 2 best players: Jackson, Morris, Zubac, Batum, Mann, Kennard, Hartlestein, Covington (who's been a shell of himself all season)

I say we have a better team along these 2 lists. The Clippers also do not have great player leadership. There is clearly a giant gulf between BKN and LAC, in terms of coaching leadership and acumen. Lue has gotten the best out of this team, they play hard and smart.

I'm not going to re-litigate the past, I was never a big Tyronn proponent. In retrospect, I wish we had chosen him, but I'm not going to call it a Marks mistake. Heck, we don't even know that he would've chosen us, or that we didn't offer him.

The Nash that you believe overachieved last season with depleted lineups is gone. His all-time legendary assistant coaching staff propped him up last year, now he only has a very good cadre of assistants. His shortcomings are laid bare, the emperor has no clothes.

Uh, you're double-dipping here...Irving hasn't played a single minute with Curry and Drummond, and Dragic hasn't played a single minute with us at all. The roster has largely been without Durant and Irving, with Curry and Drummond as our two best players. Or minus those two with James Harden instead who was actively mailing it in and playing horrible.

I don't think the team we've actually played with is close to as good as the Clippers minus Kawhi and George...at all.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm pretty sure Nash was overachieving last year with a depleted roster most of the time, I'm not sure where this "Nash can't get the team to play hard" or he can't beat teams with better talent stuff comes from.

It's been rough this year for sure, and we've been getting beaten down a lot recently, but our talent level really is that bad when you have our top 4 players in street clothes. Like seriously, no, the Clippers do not have similar talent to us while missing their 2 best players, because the rest of their players are still clearly better than ours.

People just aren't realistic with what we've got. We'll play better once we get our horses back.

Overachieving?

We had freaking Harden and Kyrie for most of the year. Both playing at extremely high levels.

Talent level doesn't mean you lose 11 in a row. Or 13/15. And get blown out constantly. Its humiliating.

There are so many bad teams in the league that gut out wins all the time.

[Hello Brooklyn]

The Pistons are currently leading the same Celtics teams we got blown out by.

This is the problem. We can't ever win games and use injuries as an excuse.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm pretty sure Nash was overachieving last year with a depleted roster most of the time, I'm not sure where this "Nash can't get the team to play hard" or he can't beat teams with better talent stuff comes from.

It's been rough this year for sure, and we've been getting beaten down a lot recently, but our talent level really is that bad when you have our top 4 players in street clothes. Like seriously, no, the Clippers do not have similar talent to us while missing their 2 best players, because the rest of their players are still clearly better than ours.

People just aren't realistic with what we've got. We'll play better once we get our horses back.

Overachieving?

We had freaking Harden and Kyrie for most of the year. Both playing at extremely high levels.

Talent level doesn't mean you lose 11 in a row. Or 13/15. And get blown out constantly. Its humiliating.

There are so many bad teams in the league that gut out wins all the time.

Remember when we had a bunch of kids and g leaguers and we were playing wire to wire games?

We can't even do that now. We just get blown the hell out and Nash has no answers

Our offense is literally hand off, hand off, contested shot.

Marks sh*t the bed

[Hello Brooklyn]

I honestly can't believe Ben Simmons is still not playing. We desperately need him. He was traded for weeks ago.

Yet hes chooses to just sit out and leave us on an island.

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[Jay555]

He’s probably ducking the 76ers game. He should be back after that game.

[Hello Brooklyn]

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[Jay555]

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Lol.

[MrDollarBills]

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What in the f*ck?

So Dragic, who is pushing 40, suits up nearly immediately but Ben hasn't even started high intensity work?

I've lost complete faith in Marks and this front office. This is a sh*t show!!!

[MrDollarBills]

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Embarrassing. This is franchise is a joke.

[therealbig3]

I thought Simmons has mental health issues that he's working through? I never thought it was physical with him pretty much all year. In which case, a mental health issue isn't something that's that easy to predict when someone can come back from, unlike a physical injury.

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[Stone]

Ben's back could be part of what we keep hearing about him not wanting to play in Philly in a few weeks. Of course that speculation. I doubt his back issue is something serious at this point, he did get a physical examination after we traded for him.

I am still in the camp that believes our luck will change. Tonight would be a great time for it to start.

Let's Go !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shark]

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Embarrassing. This is franchise is a joke.

We may have KD at that point, but yeah... not a good look.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Drummond is really getting sonned by Portis. Kill me now.

[therealbig3]

And this is why you can't trust Drummond's numbers. He's playing awful.

[Paradise]

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Embarrassing. This is franchise is a joke.

We literally have National TV games for the rest of the month and like 10 out of 19 games.

The Celtics haven’t lost yet and The Grizzlies can #2 in the West on Thursday….no brainer. Not even that serious. You guys are literally finding things to complain about at this point.