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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#161 » by kuclas » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:23 pm

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SoulJah wrote:Harden is back to his flopping ways and referees are back to falling for it



He's going to get to the line really easily with the Sixers for two reasons, Embiid puts teams in the bonus by himself, and the Harden/Embiid pick is going to be a nightmare to deal with. If you switch your big onto Harden he can attack there, or even worse they can just go to Embiid on the mismatch, there isn't a single wing in the NBA that can guard Embiid on a switch.


This tandem is going to destroy switch happy teams IMO.

And that’s what exactly happen to the Timberwolves Last night. Harden got towns on the perimeter and embiid got dlo or ant man.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#162 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:27 pm

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SoulJah wrote:Harden is back to his flopping ways and referees are back to falling for it



He's going to get to the line really easily with the Sixers for two reasons, Embiid puts teams in the bonus by himself, and the Harden/Embiid pick is going to be a nightmare to deal with. If you switch your big onto Harden he can attack there, or even worse they can just go to Embiid on the mismatch, there isn't a single wing in the NBA that can guard Embiid on a switch.


This tandem is going to destroy switch happy teams IMO.

And that’s what exactly happen to the Timberwolves Last night. Harden got towns on the perimeter and embiid got dlo or ant man.



It was so obvious to see, teams are so used to tagging roll men who can't do anything with the ball if it wasn't a lob so you could switch and put a big wing on them. But, you can't do that with Embiid, so how you defend that pick gets extremely difficult. I couldn't understand why people were saying Embiid can't be a rollman, I mean he's never done it in his career cause he's never played with a 3 level scoring ball handler, Jimmy being close but couldn't hit threes off the bounce. But the athleticism and skillset were there to be a devastating pick and roll or pop guy.

That play is going to be almost impossible for most of the teams in the league to deal with.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#163 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:27 pm

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That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.

Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.


I have watched virtually every game that Ben Simmons has played since he entered the NBA. I do not know where you are getting this "watch what Ben's going to be able to do as the 3rd option" ish from. The ball is going to primarily be in either KD's or Kyrie's hands in the halfcourt - as it should be. Ben can't shoot. He is not much of a pick and roll guy. He is not - for his size - the greatest finisher. And he sure as hell won't be generating offense from the free throw line.

What SPECIFIC OFFENSIVE SKILLS has Ben Simmons demonstrated IN HIS ENTIRE NBA CAREER that lead you to say we are going to be "shocked" at his offensive output? Huh?

He will defend like a DPOY guy. He will certainly generate points in transition. But in the 4th quarter of playoff games, Ben Simmons has shown ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSIVE SKILLS WHATSOEVER. They take the ball OUT of his hands. He REFUSES to shoot.

So, please explain - based on Ben's demonstrated history - where this "shocking" 4th quarter offense is going to come from.

Thanks!


I think Simmons will be ok with the nets. In Philadelphia the sixers were too afraid to take the ball out of Simmons hands (except for the Toronto series when jimmy butler took over point guard duties in the 4th quarter in 2019.

Notice the two hawks game sixers won when Milton was playing the point in 4th quarter of game 2 and Maxey the point in game 6.

Sixers had actually taken the lead with milton running the point in game 7 as well. But than sixers handed the ball back into Simmons had and took Milton out. And we know the rest is history with that game.

So with kyrie or even Kd as primary ball handlers in the 4th. Simmons can still be effective as the jack of all trades player


Regardless of whether Simmons is on or off the ball in the 4th quarter in the playoffs, the man DID NOT SHOOT.

Period.

I am not going to research the numbers and post them, but Simmons was an absolute non-factor on offense in crunch-time during the playoffs. Now, that may not matter, because the Nets have KD and Kyrie, but I am just responding to the poster who said we are going to be "shocked" by Ben as the 3rd option. I don't see it - and I wants somebody to use FACTS and STATISTICAL EVIDENCE to back up that assertion...otherwise it is just another GB HAWT TAKE,
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#164 » by og15 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:40 pm

I haven't seen Harden move as fast as he did this game all season, that's all I'm going to say...
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#165 » by kuclas » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:41 pm

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I have watched virtually every game that Ben Simmons has played since he entered the NBA. I do not know where you are getting this "watch what Ben's going to be able to do as the 3rd option" ish from. The ball is going to primarily be in either KD's or Kyrie's hands in the halfcourt - as it should be. Ben can't shoot. He is not much of a pick and roll guy. He is not - for his size - the greatest finisher. And he sure as hell won't be generating offense from the free throw line.

What SPECIFIC OFFENSIVE SKILLS has Ben Simmons demonstrated IN HIS ENTIRE NBA CAREER that lead you to say we are going to be "shocked" at his offensive output? Huh?

He will defend like a DPOY guy. He will certainly generate points in transition. But in the 4th quarter of playoff games, Ben Simmons has shown ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSIVE SKILLS WHATSOEVER. They take the ball OUT of his hands. He REFUSES to shoot.

So, please explain - based on Ben's demonstrated history - where this "shocking" 4th quarter offense is going to come from.

Thanks!


I think Simmons will be ok with the nets. In Philadelphia the sixers were too afraid to take the ball out of Simmons hands (except for the Toronto series when jimmy butler took over point guard duties in the 4th quarter in 2019.

Notice the two hawks game sixers won when Milton was playing the point in 4th quarter of game 2 and Maxey the point in game 6.

Sixers had actually taken the lead with milton running the point in game 7 as well. But than sixers handed the ball back into Simmons had and took Milton out. And we know the rest is history with that game.

So with kyrie or even Kd as primary ball handlers in the 4th. Simmons can still be effective as the jack of all trades player


Regardless of whether Simmons is on or off the ball in the 4th quarter in the playoffs, the man DID NOT SHOOT.

Period.

I am not going to research the numbers and post them, but Simmons was an absolute non-factor on offense in crunch-time during the playoffs. Now, that may not matter, because the Nets have KD and Kyrie, but I am just responding to the poster who said we are going to be "shocked" by Ben as the 3rd option. I don't see it - and I wants somebody to use FACTS and STATISTICAL EVIDENCE to back up that assertion...otherwise it is just another GB HAWT TAKE,


Nets have two premier iso scorers. It doesn’t matter if Simmons is the 6th option on the floor.

With the sixers. The real issue is Harris was the second option and that’s not good.

Two premier iso scorers is all a team needs to win tight games in the playoffs.

Simmons can do the dirty work. Rebound, defend, transition opportunities.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#166 » by jfs1000d » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:50 pm

76ers are good. They are a legit title threat. I worry about the perimeter defense. I don’t think they will win if their 3s aren’t falling. And, harden and Embiid’s motors are on and off.


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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#167 » by DonaldSanders » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:00 pm

og15 wrote:I haven't seen Harden move as fast as he did this game all season, that's all I'm going to say...



Yeah that was/is the big question... which James Harden are the Sixers going to get?

If the Sixers are getting this motivated, younger seeming almost MVP-season level Harden then they clearly won the trade. I thought the trade was a win for both squads (but in the Nets favor), but if Harden is good Harden then the Sixers won the trade.

It's still too early to decide this on one game, lots of overreactions already... but this combo is looking quite strong.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#168 » by Woodsanity » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:13 pm

Hussien Fatal wrote:They are crushing the wolves on the road and the duo of Embiid and harden looks great especially considering this is the first time they have played together. They look scary!

Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#169 » by zaz102 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:17 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:They are crushing the wolves on the road and the duo of Embiid and harden looks great especially considering this is the first time they have played together. They look scary!

Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.
Agreed. If last night is any indication, there aren't any teams on their level.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#170 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:43 pm

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I think Simmons will be ok with the nets. In Philadelphia the sixers were too afraid to take the ball out of Simmons hands (except for the Toronto series when jimmy butler took over point guard duties in the 4th quarter in 2019.

Notice the two hawks game sixers won when Milton was playing the point in 4th quarter of game 2 and Maxey the point in game 6.

Sixers had actually taken the lead with milton running the point in game 7 as well. But than sixers handed the ball back into Simmons had and took Milton out. And we know the rest is history with that game.

So with kyrie or even Kd as primary ball handlers in the 4th. Simmons can still be effective as the jack of all trades player


Regardless of whether Simmons is on or off the ball in the 4th quarter in the playoffs, the man DID NOT SHOOT.

Period.

I am not going to research the numbers and post them, but Simmons was an absolute non-factor on offense in crunch-time during the playoffs. Now, that may not matter, because the Nets have KD and Kyrie, but I am just responding to the poster who said we are going to be "shocked" by Ben as the 3rd option. I don't see it - and I wants somebody to use FACTS and STATISTICAL EVIDENCE to back up that assertion...otherwise it is just another GB HAWT TAKE,


Nets have two premier iso scorers. It doesn’t matter if Simmons is the 6th option on the floor.

With the sixers. The real issue is Harris was the second option and that’s not good.

Two premier iso scorers is all a team needs to win tight games in the playoffs.

Simmons can do the dirty work. Rebound, defend, transition opportunities.


That is fine. But "doing the dirty work" and getting garbage points is NOT the same as being "shocked at how good Ben will be as the 3rd offensive option".

Not even close.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#171 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:47 pm

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Hussien Fatal wrote:They are crushing the wolves on the road and the duo of Embiid and harden looks great especially considering this is the first time they have played together. They look scary!

Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.
Agreed. If last night is any indication, there aren't any teams on their level.


Nothing personal - I don't necessarily mean this as a jab at you - but what the f is going on around here?

Two weeks ago the narrative was the Sixers got FLEECED. So, now the new narrative is going to be that anything less than winning the chip means that they are a failure?

Do I have the board right here?

Those of you on the GB that have done this complete 180 have no shame. None at all.
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Post#172 » by USWAY » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:48 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:They are crushing the wolves on the road and the duo of Embiid and harden looks great especially considering this is the first time they have played together. They look scary!

Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.

I'm not saying that this was your take, but if/when the Sixers continue to play like this, it's going to be funny to watch the overarching narrative switch from "the Sixers gave up Curry and two picks on top of Simmons, they got fleeced for a washed-up Harden" to "the Sixers better win the championship or this season is an utter failure when they have two MVP's."
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#173 » by USWAY » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:52 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:
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Woodsanity wrote:Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.
Agreed. If last night is any indication, there aren't any teams on their level.


Nothing personal - I don't necessarily mean this as a jab at you - but what the f is going on around here?

Two weeks ago the narrative was the Sixers got FLEECED. So, now the new narrative is going to be that anything less than winning the chip means that they are a failure?

Do I have the board right here?

Those of you on the GB that have done this complete 180 have no shame. None at all.

lol you beat me to it. To be fair, not every person had that take, but rhe overarching narrative on this board and in the media was that Brooklyn won that trade so it'll be fun to watch not only over the next couple seasons with Embiid and Harden, but even further than that to see how Simmons develops and if he can become something greater than what he stagnated at in Philly.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#174 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:54 pm

USWAY wrote:
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Hussien Fatal wrote:They are crushing the wolves on the road and the duo of Embiid and harden looks great especially considering this is the first time they have played together. They look scary!

Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.

I'm not saying that this was your take, but if/when the Sixers continue to play like this, it's going to be funny to watch the overarching narrative switch from "the Sixers gave up Curry and two picks on top of Simmons, they got fleeced for a washed-up Harden" to "the Sixers better win the championship or this season is an utter failure when they have two MVP's."


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Post#176 » by SFour » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:08 pm

I hate to admit it but they are a top team in the league now.....two superstars so it's undeniable

nothing in this league is guaranteed though....they aren't just going to walk their way into a championship.
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Post#177 » by Catchall » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:23 pm

Nets v. Sixers is going to be a riot. I want to see what James Harden looks like when he's being guarded by Ben Simmons and KD is going off for 45 pts.

Bucks, Nets and Sixers are all beastly. As good as the Heat and Bulls have been, they're probably going out by the 2nd round.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#178 » by John Murdoch » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:25 pm

jfs1000d wrote:76ers are good. They are a legit title threat. I worry about the perimeter defense. I don’t think they will win if their 3s aren’t falling. And, harden and Embiid’s motors are on and off.


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Post#179 » by DCasey91 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:29 pm

Sixers fan chiming in. Honest opinion

I really do think next year is our real shot at the title (and I expect Morey to put the finishing touches to the list he’s a gangster)

Look at this....

He turned Horford’s awful contract and Richardson into Curry and Green, drafted Maxey and got bloody Harden for the spare parts honestly lol. Signed Drummond to a basement deal and Niang has been our best stretch 4 in this period not close. He must be a top class highway robber with these deals

We are light on wing depth with only Green and Thybulle. I’m all over Otto Porter Jr or Gary Harris on a 3 yr MLE also Olynyk/Ingles/Kleber even would seal the deal. But knowing Morey he might aim for Jerami Grant as the icing on the cake. Someone who can score 10-15 points as there is a huge amount of space leftover. Love Maxey but I want him as a hotter than the sun 6th man. Our defence can still be very good but would like to sure it up. But in saying this it makes Thybulle more playable which is great because he can get freaky on defence his awareness is Spider-Man like.

Seriously though Morey’s work over the past two seasons plus has been unbelievable. Wouldn’t be surprised if he moved Tobithus in the off season and Doc too.

Something is different with Embiid this year, his tank is a non issue now he’s going through games with ease whereas basically every other year there has been conditioning issues. Not this one he’s at the peak of his extremely talented powers.

Offense when the game is tight isn’t the issue anymore which has always been our Achilles heel along with a competent backup C. Morey will snag one for sure. I do want Okongwu but the price will probably be too much.

Simons was my MIP this year (love him and wanted him like a super soldier Seth lol)

Double O is a stud. Anyway ragging on. I’d expect a ECF birth and anything more is gravy town. Haven’t had this much hope since the Butler/Embiid season but bloody Greg Monroe had to play lol. What was irony in that series even though it’s a downright classic and still hurts to this day our starters together actually had the Raptors where they wanted included how flawed and exposed Ben can be.

Which brings me to Nets fans. Don’t expect the reality with him. It’s very theoretical. If he doesn’t shoot 50+% from the line it can and will be bad news bears as teams will resort to hack a Ben (no reason not to when it’s close).

Actually he’s a very good roll man which will be his role (best screener always has been) so I can see KD/Ben two game bring in the best looking plays. Don’t ask him to be a rim protector because he ain’t one

Curry is great (though can be picky at times when shooting) but you cannot have Mills and Curry on the court together. Like them both but would shudder on how badly a team like the Bucks would crush them with size.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#180 » by Catchall » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:33 pm

USWAY wrote:
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Hussien Fatal wrote:They are crushing the wolves on the road and the duo of Embiid and harden looks great especially considering this is the first time they have played together. They look scary!

Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.

I'm not saying that this was your take, but if/when the Sixers continue to play like this, it's going to be funny to watch the overarching narrative switch from "the Sixers gave up Curry and two picks on top of Simmons, they got fleeced for a washed-up Harden" to "the Sixers better win the championship or this season is an utter failure when they have two MVP's."


Harden ain't an MVP this year. Calling him that would be a massive overreaction.

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