I think he's expecting Finals MVP if I had to guess.Catchall wrote:USWAY wrote:Woodsanity wrote:Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.
I'm not saying that this was your take, but if/when the Sixers continue to play like this, it's going to be funny to watch the overarching narrative switch from "the Sixers gave up Curry and two picks on top of Simmons, they got fleeced for a washed-up Harden" to "the Sixers better win the championship or this season is an utter failure when they have two MVP's."
Harden ain't an MVP this year. Calling him that would be a massive overreaction.
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Catchall wrote:Nets v. Sixers is going to be a riot. I want to see what James Harden looks like when he's being guarded by Ben Simmons and KD is going off for 45 pts.
Bucks, Nets and Sixers are all beastly. As good as the Heat and Bulls have been, they're probably going out by the 2nd round.
Umm...you DO know what Embiid does to Drummond - right?
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Catchall wrote:Nets v. Sixers is going to be a riot. I want to see what James Harden looks like when he's being guarded by Ben Simmons and KD is going off for 45 pts.
Bucks, Nets and Sixers are all beastly. As good as the Heat and Bulls have been, they're probably going out by the 2nd round.
Oh no! Whatever will James Harden do with the legendary Benjamin Simmons guarding him??
Well, he might just continue averaging the 32/9/7 on 48 percent shooting he's been doing to Ben in the 6 career games they've played against each other.


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Tor_Raps wrote:XtremeDunkz wrote:drchaos wrote:
The Harden the Nets had their last 10 games together is not the Harden you saw last night.
When he wants out he quits on his team.
Sure but if they kept him past the trade deadline he would have locked back in.
That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.
Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.
??? Seth Curry is the 3rd option. Heck even JJ redick was higher on the picking order in tight games as both as always was our best release valves.
I do see overlap with Mills/Curry. Ben is mostly there as a screen setter/roll man passer/switch defender. He’ll play the Griffin role
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LoneyROY wrote:Catchall wrote:Nets v. Sixers is going to be a riot. I want to see what James Harden looks like when he's being guarded by Ben Simmons and KD is going off for 45 pts.
Bucks, Nets and Sixers are all beastly. As good as the Heat and Bulls have been, they're probably going out by the 2nd round.
Oh no! Whatever will James Harden do with the legendary Benjamin Simmons guarding him??
Well, he might just continue averaging the 32/9/7 on 48 percent shooting he's been doing to Ben in the 6 career games they've played against each other.![]()
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Ngl as a Heat fan... Philly is definitely a problem. A team led by Joel Embiid trying to create halfcourt offense from the wing in the playoffs was never gonna scare anyone, but Harden thrown into the mix changes everything
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Catchall wrote:Nets v. Sixers is going to be a riot., I want to see what James Harden looks like when he's being guarded by Ben Simmons and KD is going off for 45 pts.
Bucks, Nets and Sixers are all beastly. As good as the Heat and Bulls have been, they're probably going out by the 2nd round.
Not so fast my man. The Nets have to get in 1st. If the Nets finish 8th and the Raptors finish 7th, the Nets have to play the Raptors in Canada with no Kyrie. God help them if they finish 9th
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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bebopdeluxe wrote:zaz102 wrote:Agreed. If last night is any indication, there aren't any teams on their level.Woodsanity wrote:Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.
Nothing personal - I don't necessarily mean this as a jab at you - but what the f is going on around here?
Two weeks ago the narrative was the Sixers got FLEECED. So, now the new narrative is going to be that anything less than winning the chip means that they are a failure?
Do I have the board right here?
Those of you on the GB that have done this complete 180 have no shame. None at all.
Agree. People say sixers can’t waste embiid prime. So they go out and get James freakin Harden. Who’s even better than Dame Lillard. Lillard supposedly was morey first choice
Simmons wasn’t gonna to play all season. So the sixers essentially “upgraded” from Seth curry plus Andre Drummond to James Harden
Forget the 2 first round picks. Forget ben Simmons. Simmons/future first round picks don’t matter THIS SEASON. Simmons wasn’t playing this season for the sixers.
Who else could the sixers have gotten to upgrade their roster THIS SEASON to help embiid?
Life is not perfect. Trades are not perfect. But we live in the now work sports. And embiid time is now.
Sacromento and even Minnesota who wanted Ben Simmons this season. Didn’t want to pay the price for Simmons
Sixers were willing to pay the price for Harden now.
Minnesota decides to play it safe and keep ant man who was probably morey target as the main centerpiece. Sacromento also didn’t want to give up Haliburton plus picks for Simmons. So sacromento played it safer getting Sabonis.
Playing it safe doesn’t open up title windows unfortunately.
When the opportunity arises to get players. Star players. And yes. Harden is still a top 10 nba player or even a top 5 nba player when engaged. You go for it.
And for all of Ben Simmons head case/fake mental illness. He was still a top 25 nba player. You do what it takes to get Simmons. And sacromento and Minnesota didn’t want to do it.
Now sacromento has to deal with Sabonis putting up empty stats while still losing cause Sabonis can’t play perimeter defense well with pick and roll and can’t defend the rim.
Minnesota has its core. But they will flounder in the 7-9 play in range. I guess that’s an improvement. But let’s hope ant man “wall” he has hit is temporary. Or else they made a major mistake not going for Simmons who’s a much better fit with Towns.
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Happy for Harden.
He has terrible luck with competition, ownership, teammates.
This is the second best Shooting Guard ever who gets **** on constantly for not being able to beat the GOAT team in the playoffs.
Finally gets in good position to do so, gets royally screwed over by the refs.
Terrible owner swoops in and dismantles an epic team.
Ends up in a supposed good position only to be upended by crazy ass Kyrie Irving and brittle Durant.
So glad to see him end up in Philly with another reliable workhorse and a good supporting cast. I hope he gets a ring or two, cause the guy deserves it.
He has terrible luck with competition, ownership, teammates.
This is the second best Shooting Guard ever who gets **** on constantly for not being able to beat the GOAT team in the playoffs.
Finally gets in good position to do so, gets royally screwed over by the refs.
Terrible owner swoops in and dismantles an epic team.
Ends up in a supposed good position only to be upended by crazy ass Kyrie Irving and brittle Durant.
So glad to see him end up in Philly with another reliable workhorse and a good supporting cast. I hope he gets a ring or two, cause the guy deserves it.

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bebopdeluxe wrote:zaz102 wrote:Agreed. If last night is any indication, there aren't any teams on their level.Woodsanity wrote:Anything less than a championship this season is a bust. No other team has two mvp level players. No excuses for Embiid if he flops in the playoffs as usual.
Nothing personal - I don't necessarily mean this as a jab at you - but what the f is going on around here?
Two weeks ago the narrative was the Sixers got FLEECED. So, now the new narrative is going to be that anything less than winning the chip means that they are a failure? Do I have the board right here? Those of you on the GB that have done this complete 180 have no shame. None at all.
Definitely a thing here--Sixers can't just be a fun team that fun things are happening to, after years of them not going quite right. Its players can't just be a fun smart group of dudes, and Morey/FO can't just be people who made good gambles on how to team build and win, etc. But I guess I understand: we Sixers fans think of ourselves as long-suffering underdogs from a grimy city that likes grimy athletes, but many other fans think have lots of reasons to want the team to fail. Some didn't like the Process idea to begin with, some committed to the Sixers being idiots years ago because of Okafor/Fultz/etc, some recently committed hard to Morey being a delusional clown, some are carrying hater baggage for Morey or Harden, some don't like the Philly attitude (and think it's something way different than it is).
For us, it's been years of waiting, praying our gambles come through, seeing our FO screw things up (sometimes their fault, sometimes not), loving Embiid and getting disappointed by all these other dudes, etc. For them it's us cheating and still failing. Best guess I got.
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DCasey91 wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:XtremeDunkz wrote:
Sure but if they kept him past the trade deadline he would have locked back in.
That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.
Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.
??? Seth Curry is the 3rd option. Heck even JJ redick was higher on the picking order in tight games as both as always was our best release valves.
I do see overlap with Mills/Curry. Ben is mostly there as a screen setter/roll man passer/switch defender. He’ll play the Griffin role
Lol remember this comment when he starts playing.
He might not be a go to scorer at the end of games but he can still have a good impact offensively if surrounded by the talent a team like Brooklyn has. Then we already know how great he is defensively.
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Harden was immediately effective after being traded last season as well.
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John Murdoch wrote:jfs1000d wrote:76ers are good. They are a legit title threat. I worry about the perimeter defense. I don’t think they will win if their 3s aren’t falling. And, harden and Embiid’s motors are on and off.
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Losing Curry could hurt alot
A little bit, for sure, but you don't get Harden and worry about whether you lost Seth Curry, you have to give some to get some, it's about net. Can you easily find another shooter like Curry? Nope, but you can find a good enough shooter who might have some other advantages like length and defense which gives you something else. Curry and Harden pairing defensively is meh anyways, Seth isn't Chris Paul out there on defense.
Fencer reregistered wrote:Harden was immediately effective after being traded last season as well.
It's the magic of the trade
stormi wrote:LoneyROY wrote:Catchall wrote:Nets v. Sixers is going to be a riot. I want to see what James Harden looks like when he's being guarded by Ben Simmons and KD is going off for 45 pts.
Bucks, Nets and Sixers are all beastly. As good as the Heat and Bulls have been, they're probably going out by the 2nd round.
Oh no! Whatever will James Harden do with the legendary Benjamin Simmons guarding him??
Well, he might just continue averaging the 32/9/7 on 48 percent shooting he's been doing to Ben in the 6 career games they've played against each other.![]()
Why did the person add the Simmons on offense clips? Since when was Simmons a good half court offensive player?
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Tor_Raps wrote:DCasey91 wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:
That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.
Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.
??? Seth Curry is the 3rd option. Heck even JJ redick was higher on the picking order in tight games as both as always was our best release valves.
I do see overlap with Mills/Curry. Ben is mostly there as a screen setter/roll man passer/switch defender. He’ll play the Griffin role
Lol remember this comment when he starts playing.
He might not be a go to scorer at the end of games but he can still have a good impact offensively if surrounded by the talent a team like Brooklyn has. Then we already know how great he is defensively.
I’ve watched basically every Embiid/Ben game. Ben is not a scorer at the end of a game nor is he anything threatening offensively holistically especially under a green coach in Nash.
Other side of the ball is where you can win but as I posted earlier if he doesn’t shoot 50+ % ft your team is in trouble/ entering the realm of sitting him for 6/7th bench players if the opponents scheme and expose obvious 4 vs 5 flaws. Huge liability (talking specifically playoffs).
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BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Ngl as a Heat fan... Philly is definitely a problem. A team led by Joel Embiid trying to create halfcourt offense from the wing in the playoffs was never gonna scare anyone, but Harden thrown into the mix changes everything
dont worry. they will fall in playoffs. neither harden or embiid is a good ps performer. one injury to either of them they are over.
harden and embiid barely has any chemistry they wont figure it out this quick. even lebron's great miami dynasty took a lot.
76ers is last yr's nets I give them maximum 2 yrs until 2023 to win a title. if they dont win, they are a failure, simmons trade was lost. nets could have been in 76ers situation but they hedged by acquiring simmons their title window is 5 yrs.
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Harden is on another level from Simmons for sure but still would suck having to look at look at the age difference between the two. That Harden Max will be ugly after a little while.
Of course if it results in a championship then fine but it also has the ability to screw the Sixers well into Embiids 30s.
Of course if it results in a championship then fine but it also has the ability to screw the Sixers well into Embiids 30s.
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Harden/Maxey/Thybulle/Harris/Embiid is a strong lineup.
Sixers don't have a lot of depth on their bench though -- Green, Niang, Korkmaz?
Sixers don't have a lot of depth on their bench though -- Green, Niang, Korkmaz?
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Not going to say this is same tier with Kobe/Shaq but it's similar but 3 tiers down. Solid af, excited to see a motivated Embiid and Harden, hella fun to watch.

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CometGM wrote: They haven't shown yet that they can overcome the deer in the headlights look once things get really tight deeper in the playoffs.
Where does that narrative come from? I mean they literally took Toronto to game 7 and lost on an insane Kawhi shot so how was that deer in the headlights that series?
Last year they lost to Atlanta in 7 but fans forget that Embiid tore his meniscus in round 1 and was dragging his leg around for most of that Hawks series. That wasnt deer in headlights that was just having your MVP caliber guy playing at about 60% health.