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2021-22 Offseason Thread

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Re: 2021-22 Offseason Thread 

Post#381 » by rarefind » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:28 pm

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rarefind wrote:Imagine awarding teams with draft picks for promoting their own mlb ready prospects.


Maybe we could game it,, you know,, promote a young guy like Chad Dallas for a few months, who'll never really make it, but before he qualifies,, and get more picks!! Only to be quickly released. :nod:

All your lagging picks get a call up when it doesn't really matter, and you redeem your mistakes while stocking your cupboard with picks! I like!

Sorry Chad.


I think it only applies the draft pick stuff to whomever is the the "Top 100" prospects. So you can't just promtoe some random joe.


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Re: 2021-22 Offseason Thread 

Post#382 » by Cyrus » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:53 am

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Maybe we could game it,, you know,, promote a young guy like Chad Dallas for a few months, who'll never really make it, but before he qualifies,, and get more picks!! Only to be quickly released. :nod:

All your lagging picks get a call up when it doesn't really matter, and you redeem your mistakes while stocking your cupboard with picks! I like!

Sorry Chad.


I think it only applies the draft pick stuff to whomever is the the "Top 100" prospects. So you can't just promtoe some random joe.


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Indeed makes no sense, Tampa Bay about to game the c system.



Gonna have like 8 top 100 players promote them early, get them extra picks, trade these guys before they get paid and get prospects who will like qualify for these extra picks
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Re: 2021-22 Offseason Thread 

Post#383 » by polo007 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:54 pm

Infield spots, No. 5 starter top Jays’ to-do list - TSN.ca

TORONTO — Seventy-eight days ago, the business of baseball shut down in the middle of free agency and it hasn’t been heard from since.

Toronto Blue Jays pitchers and catchers would’ve been scheduled to hit the field in Dunedin this week, but that’s not happening, and won’t until a new CBA is agreed to.

There are ominous signs that a deal may not be on the immediate horizon.

Whenever things do return to normal, there’s going to be a frenzied roster-building window that the Jays and GM Ross Atkins are sure to be a part of.

Getting Kevin Gausman signed to a lucrative multi-year pact to pair with Jose Berríos atop the rotation just prior to the lockout was a great start, but as a club billed as a serious World Series threat now there are holes that absolutely must be addressed.

Like last year around this time, it’s important to remember that every single need doesn’t have to be satisfied prior to the start of a marathon season that might just be a little bit shorter this year when all is said and done if things drag into March as many are predicting.

Waiting until trading season in July — like last year with some bullpen reinforcements and the Berríos blockbuster — could be in the cards once again.

With that being said, there are four items on the to-do list for the Jays front office that stand out above the rest.
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This is an interesting one. I agree with the players that the figures suggested are probably not worth it in the long haul, but that's the first time that MLB has been willing to commit to a salary floor, and that's actually a pretty high one. If baseball is going to really reorient its financial picture, a high floor paired with a reasonably low CBT is probably the way it'll be done.
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Sides far apart after 6th straight day of MLB talks - ESPN.com

JUPITER, Fla. -- With less than two days before Major League Baseball's deadline to reach a labor deal to salvage opening day on March 31 and the sides far apart, players were unsure whether they will break off talks.

Both sides made moves Saturday, but the union was upset with management's response. The union staff planned to discuss with players whether to meet Sunday or to head home.

Players lowered their proposal for the luxury tax by $2 million annually in each year from 2023-24, but the sides remain far apart. Owners responded by moving from $214 million to $215 million in 2023.

Teams still want to increase the base tax rate from 20% to 45%. They dropped their proposed second rate from 25% to 17%.

The union dropped to 35% from 75% for the percentage of players with two to three years of major league service who would become eligible for salary arbitration. MLB says it will not move from the current 22%.


Players also withdrew their proposal that would cut revenue sharing by $30 million annually but kept its plan to give small-market teams an incentive to spend. The union changed its proposal to having the incentive money come from central revenue, which it estimates would cost a large-market club no more than $1 million in a year.

MLB asked to tie an amateur draft lottery to expanding the playoffs from 10 to 14 teams.

The union also kept its proposal to limit optional assignments to five annually.

Teams added that a committee comprised of six management officials, two union and one umpire be allowed to make in-field rules changes with 45 days' notice. Currently, management can only change rules with union consent or unilaterally with one year notice.

Owners still are proposing an international draft, which the union opposes.

After holding just six negotiating sessions on central economics from the start of the lockout through Feb. 19, the sides met for the sixth straight day at Roger Dean Stadium, the vacant spring training home of the Miami Marlins and St. Louis Cardinals.

Mets pitcher Max Scherzer and shortstop Francisco Lindor, Yankees pitcher Gerrit Cole and free agent reliever Andrew Miller were among the players at the talks. Baseball's ninth work stoppage, its first since 1995, was in its 87th day.

The sides arrived at noon, an hour earlier than every previous session this year, then caucused for nearly 2 1/2 hours. The union held a Zoom session for its player representatives, about 30, which has been its deliberative method.

MLB has said that if there is not an agreement by the end of Monday, it would start canceling games because there will not be enough training time to play a full schedule.


After days of little progress, the sides neared agreement Friday on an amateur draft lottery during negotiations that included a surprise one-on-one meeting between Commissioner Rob Manfred and union head Tony Clark.

Players have not accepted Monday as a deadline and have suggested any missed games could be made up as part of doubleheaders, a method MLB said it will not agree to.

Once Monday passes, the length of the schedule would become yet another issue in the dispute along with possible lost pay and service time.

The union has told MLB if games are missed and salaries are lost, clubs should not expect players to agree to management's proposals to expand the postseason and to allow advertisements on uniforms and helmets.
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Post#394 » by ItsDanger » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm

As a fan, I want term limits on contracts. Too often it hampers a teams performance on the tail end.
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Re: 2021-22 Offseason Thread 

Post#398 » by spykelee » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:51 am

Could baseball be anymore ridiculous? Ghost wins? Like wtf are they even talking about? Are they looking at the world right now? The optics of this labor issue *facepalm* ... Baseball was already fighting an uphill battle with fan interest dwindling and imo can Ill afford the bad press that's coming with this. These guys need to figure it out for the longevity and good of the sport.

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Re: 2021-22 Offseason Thread 

Post#400 » by Schad » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:55 pm

ItsDanger wrote:As a fan, I want term limits on contracts. Too often it hampers a teams performance on the tail end.


That's on the teams for signing them. It's not like there's any shock that those contracts will suck on the back end, and paying a player a bunch in the mid/late 30s is what teams do so that they aren't paying nearly as much today.
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