LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

[Jaivl]

Hope he gets traded and we get a decent haul for him. Lebron brought us a chip along with AD. But it's a waste of time having him here. Hard time seeing this team being any better next season whilst everyone else gets better.

We are probably the worst team in the NBA.

Lol, Lakers fans being divas again. Even without LeBron, you're not even close to the worst supporting cast in the league. Half an Anthony Davis is worth three times more than whatever the Rockets have, for example.

[G35]

Damn Twitter is going in on him statpadding right now..............was it that bad i missed the game

The same people that say he quit on the team are mad he's still playing in a blowout.

- not getting back on defense
- not playing any defense
- cherry picking on fast breaks

Its funny how people want to be black and white in some situations but in others "Where's the context!"......

[magicman1978]

Damn Twitter is going in on him statpadding right now..............was it that bad i missed the game

Nah he sat with over 5 minutes less once the game was beyond saving. LeBron trolls only come out of hiding when Lakers lose big.

Those people are definitely trolls, but there is no reason LeBron should have played 7 minutes in the 4th with his team down 32pts instead of saving his energy and body for the next game.

[Ian Scuffling]

Hope he gets traded and we get a decent haul for him. Lebron brought us a chip along with AD. But it's a waste of time having him here. Hard time seeing this team being any better next season whilst everyone else gets better.

We are probably the worst team in the NBA.

Lol, Lakers fans being divas again. Even without LeBron, you're not even close to the worst supporting cast in the league. Half an Anthony Davis is worth three times more than whatever the Rockets have, for example.

You'd have a point if Anthony Davis played more. He's always hurt. A player can't help from the bench.

[zimpy27]

Hope he gets traded and we get a decent haul for him. Lebron brought us a chip along with AD. But it's a waste of time having him here. Hard time seeing this team being any better next season whilst everyone else gets better.

We are probably the worst team in the NBA.

If he wants to be traded somewhere you probably won't get that much. If he doesn't want to be traded then he won't be traded.

Team would have won championship last season if healthy. They just need a great offseason to undo the last one.

Don't be fooled by coasting RS LeBron, he's still putting up MVP numbers while giving minimal effort. Will still be a top 3 player in the league in playoffs.

Nah, I don't think a healthy Lakers team honestly comes close to the title last year. They were legitimately worse compared to their 2020 run, and I do think the Suns would have outlasted them regardless.

I also don't think they would have done well against the Bucks or Nets (if we use the "if healthy" caveat). Even with a healthy Davis, the Lakers role players were a big step down from the season before, and that would have made a difference imo.

They weren't worse though, they were more dominant before the injuries.

They nearly beat Phoenix without Davis and a healthy LeBron, then Phoenix nearly beat Bucks.

[therealbig3]

If he wants to be traded somewhere you probably won't get that much. If he doesn't want to be traded then he won't be traded.

Team would have won championship last season if healthy. They just need a great offseason to undo the last one.

Don't be fooled by coasting RS LeBron, he's still putting up MVP numbers while giving minimal effort. Will still be a top 3 player in the league in playoffs.

Nah, I don't think a healthy Lakers team honestly comes close to the title last year. They were legitimately worse compared to their 2020 run, and I do think the Suns would have outlasted them regardless.

I also don't think they would have done well against the Bucks or Nets (if we use the "if healthy" caveat). Even with a healthy Davis, the Lakers role players were a big step down from the season before, and that would have made a difference imo.

They weren't worse though, they were more dominant before the injuries.

They nearly beat Phoenix without Davis and a healthy LeBron, then Phoenix nearly beat Bucks.

When did they nearly beat Phoenix without Davis? Phoenix put the whupping on them after Davis got hurt. With Davis, it was shaping up to be a competitive series, but LeBron and Davis would have had to be pretty Herculean to get it done, because Phoenix was just the deeper team.

I don't think the Lakers were built for the playoffs nearly the same way. Their shooting sucked, and they had empty stat guys like Drummond and Schroeder instead of playoff proven vets that proved incredibly useful the previous season like Howard and Rondo.

[nzahir]

This team sucks

Pelinka is a moron to not at least make a small move or two to change the dyanmic and bring some juice like the Cavs in 2018

Cant wait for the offseason

Its their lats shot basically

Need Russ to take that pay cut or move him

I found a Westbrook trade I like..

Lakers get: Melton, Clarke, Fournier, Burks
Knicks get: Westbrook
Grizzlies get: Kemba, Reddish, LAL27FRP

Melton, Burks, LeBron, Clarke, Davis -- Nunn, Fournier, THT, Melo, Howard

I don't see why the Knicks do this at all

Just gave up assets for Reddish

We make out way too good here

This summer we need to move at least 1 of THT or Russ, both cant be on here

Feels like the best bet is getting Russ to take a longer deal that would hit us at 20-25m next season and he comes off the bench

Move THT and our 1st and 2nds for a vet. Starting wing or SG

Nunn opts in

Monk re signs for mle? Maybe takes less?

Bring back Dwight/Lob threat C

Core of:

Lebron, AD, Russ, Dwight/Lob threat C, Nunn, Monk, Vet from THT, Reaves, vet mins, maybe cap space to sign another guy or two

Depending who we trade THT for, we may have cap space left

[zimpy27]

This team sucks

Pelinka is a moron to not at least make a small move or two to change the dyanmic and bring some juice like the Cavs in 2018

Cant wait for the offseason

Its their lats shot basically

Need Russ to take that pay cut or move him

I found a Westbrook trade I like..

Lakers get: Melton, Clarke, Fournier, Burks
Knicks get: Westbrook
Grizzlies get: Kemba, Reddish, LAL27FRP

Melton, Burks, LeBron, Clarke, Davis -- Nunn, Fournier, THT, Melo, Howard

I don't see why the Knicks do this at all

Just gave up assets for Reddish

We make out way too good here

This summer we need to move at least 1 of THT or Russ, both cant be on here

Feels like the best bet is getting Russ to take a longer deal that would hit us at 20-25m next season and he comes off the bench

Move THT and our 1st and 2nds for a vet. Starting wing or SG

Nunn opts in

Monk re signs for mle? Maybe takes less?

Bring back Dwight/Lob threat C

Core of:

Lebron, AD, Russ, Dwight/Lob threat C, Nunn, Monk, Vet from THT, Reaves, vet mins, maybe cap space to sign another guy or two

Depending who we trade THT for, we may have cap space left

Well Knicks trade for 1 year of Westbrook and then they can undo the mistakes of last offseason.
This clears Knicks space in 2023 offseason to rebuild around RJ, Randle, Mitch.
Lakers were trying to get Reddish from Knicks. I suspect he will be traded off very soon. If you think Reddish is too much then include Taj to Lakers instead.

I agree Lakers need to trade Westbrook or THT. However, I think if Westbrook is kept then they shouldn't keep Monk. Lakers need a POA defender like Melton to start with Russ, then Lakers also need a wing defender to start. So Monk needs to be a bench unit guy, problem with that is his scoring takes a tumble on the bench and his scoring is what he's paid for. Plus any POA defender coming in is likely to take on some playmaking along with a healthy Nunn.. I just don't see a role for him but if he takes the 4m BAE then he can stay as a bargain.

If Lakers get Russ to sign a $55m/2 1+1 contract then they can use the 10m MLE and 4m BAE..
I'm very keen on trading THT+FRP for Melton+Tillman.
Then use 10m MLE and 4m BAE on two wing players.
Melton, Westbrook, 10m MLE, LeBron, Davis
Nunn, Reaves, 4m BAE, Melo, Tillman

[Greyhound]

Damn Twitter is going in on him statpadding right now..............was it that bad i missed the game

Nah he sat with over 5 minutes less once the game was beyond saving. LeBron trolls only come out of hiding when Lakers lose big.

Those people are definitely trolls, but there is no reason LeBron should have played 7 minutes in the 4th with his team down 32pts instead of saving his energy and body for the next game.

Saving for what exactly?

The team is bad. LeBron was playing his regular rotational slot allotment. LeBron is not getting younger next game and the Lakers are unlikely to get better next game.

Is he suppose to play 20 minutes each game because the team is not competitive without AD. If that’s the case, then why not just sit out entirely, “saving his energy and body” for next season.

LeBron is at the end of his career, playing on a team headed nowhere (missing it’s most important player).

I have zero problems with LeBron stat stuffing to close this season. He has played about as hard as anyone for close to 20 seasons. Dude has earned the right to cheese for 20 something games, at the end of a meaningless season, in the twilight of his career.

Nobody took issue with Kobe chucking away to register 60 points in his final regular season game. That was a game that meant absolutely nothing.

Kobe did it solely for vanity and legacy. The team missed the playoffs again (an all too common situation which had become their bread and butter).

LeBron is chasing Kareem on fumes (playing on a bum knee currently). He needs to score as much as he can right now because tomorrow is not promised.

The way things are looking today, he could blow a knee any game now. Let the trolls do what they do best. Nobody will care about this once things are placed in proper context 20 years from now.

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LeBron does not have the Luxury of being gifted 20-27 ft attempts like others. He has to actually play and get buckets (which he leads the league at).

[magicman1978]

Nah he sat with over 5 minutes less once the game was beyond saving. LeBron trolls only come out of hiding when Lakers lose big.

Those people are definitely trolls, but there is no reason LeBron should have played 7 minutes in the 4th with his team down 32pts instead of saving his energy and body for the next game.

Saving for what exactly?

The team is bad. LeBron was playing his regular rotational slot allotment. LeBron is not getting younger next game and the Lakers are unlikely to get better next game.

Is he suppose to play 20 minutes each game because the team is not competitive without AD. If that’s the case, then why not just sit out entirely, “saving his energy and body” for next season.

LeBron is at the end of his career, playing on a team headed nowhere (missing it’s most important player).

I have zero problems with LeBron stat stuffing to close this season. He has played about as hard as anyone for close to 20 seasons. Dude has earned the right to cheese for 20 something games, at the end of a meaningless season, in the twilight of his career.

Nobody took issue with Kobe chucking away to register 60 points in his final regular season game. That was a game that meant absolutely nothing.

Kobe did it solely for vanity and legacy. The team missed the playoffs again (an all too common situation which had become their bread and butter).

LeBron is chasing Kareem on fumes (playing on a bum knee currently). He needs to score as much as he can right now because tomorrow is not promised.

The way things are looking, he could blow a knee any game now. Let the trolls do what they do. Nobody will care about this once things are placed in proper context 20 years from now.

LeBron does not have the Luxury of being gifted 20-27 ft attempts like others. He has to actually play and get buckets (which he leads the league at).

I guess as a laker fan, I'm not ready for them to completely give up on the season. They make the playoffs and get AD back, they could still make some noise.

[thebigbird]

Just saw that the Lakers fans boo’d LeBron last night. Smh. It’s so ridiculous that even Stephen A. Smith stuck up for Bron.

Read on Twitter

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Dude really was a fool for signing with LAL. I hope he demands a trade this summer.

[nzahir]

Dj Augustin and Wenyen Gabriel

BIG MOVES

[Greyhound]

Those people are definitely trolls, but there is no reason LeBron should have played 7 minutes in the 4th with his team down 32pts instead of saving his energy and body for the next game.

Saving for what exactly?

The team is bad. LeBron was playing his regular rotational slot allotment. LeBron is not getting younger next game and the Lakers are unlikely to get better next game.

Is he suppose to play 20 minutes each game because the team is not competitive without AD. If that’s the case, then why not just sit out entirely, “saving his energy and body” for next season.

LeBron is at the end of his career, playing on a team headed nowhere (missing it’s most important player).

I have zero problems with LeBron stat stuffing to close this season. He has played about as hard as anyone for close to 20 seasons. Dude has earned the right to cheese for 20 something games, at the end of a meaningless season, in the twilight of his career.

Nobody took issue with Kobe chucking away to register 60 points in his final regular season game. That was a game that meant absolutely nothing.

Kobe did it solely for vanity and legacy. The team missed the playoffs again (an all too common situation which had become their bread and butter).

LeBron is chasing Kareem on fumes (playing on a bum knee currently). He needs to score as much as he can right now because tomorrow is not promised.

The way things are looking, he could blow a knee any game now. Let the trolls do what they do. Nobody will care about this once things are placed in proper context 20 years from now.

LeBron does not have the Luxury of being gifted 20-27 ft attempts like others. He has to actually play and get buckets (which he leads the league at).

I guess as a laker fan, I'm not ready for them to completely give up on the season. They make the playoffs and get AD back, they could still make some noise.

That’s a month ago type thinking. It’s over, over now.

[Greyhound]

Dj Augustin and Wenyen Gabriel

BIG MOVES

Did the Lakers sign them?

[sp6r=underrated]

Crazy thought given how bad the Lakers are: From a self-interested perspective trading for Westbrook rather than Hield route was a good move.

Lakers would be better off with Hield but he's not nearly enough to turn this into a contender. If they hadn't acquired Russ their record would be slightly better but fans would ***kill*** them for picking Hield over Russ.

[tone wone]

Crazy thought given how bad the Lakers are: From a self-interested perspective trading for Westbrook rather than Hield route was a good move.

Lakers would be better off with Hield but he's not nearly enough to turn this into a contender. If they hadn't acquired Russ their record would be slightly better but fans would ***kill*** them for picking Hield over Russ.

If Hield were a Laker he'd be in the middle of the worst shooting season of his career and fans would be killing him. NO ONE thrives offensively under Vogel. We have 3yrs of evidence.

Before Lebron came to LA, I thought his presence basically guaranteed a high-level offense. LA is nearing their 3rd bottom 10 offense in 4yrs with Lebron..

2019: 24th
2020: 11th
2021: 24th
2022: 25th

These results are horrendous, but what's strange is how little attention its garnered nationally. I remember how much crap the Cavs got in 2017 and 2018 for their poor defense. It was all anyone could talk about with those teams....these Lakers have been every bit as bad offensively and those Cavs were defensively and no one cares. One of the greatest offensive players of all time goes to the Lakers of all teams....produces offenses that would shame tanking teams and no one seems to care.

[Dr Positivity]

Crazy thought given how bad the Lakers are: From a self-interested perspective trading for Westbrook rather than Hield route was a good move.

Lakers would be better off with Hield but he's not nearly enough to turn this into a contender. If they hadn't acquired Russ their record would be slightly better but fans would ***kill*** them for picking Hield over Russ.

If Hield were a Laker he'd be in the middle of the worst shooting season of his career and fans would be killing him. NO ONE thrives offensively under Vogel. We have 3yrs of evidence.

Before Lebron came to LA, I thought his presence basically guaranteed a high-level offense. LA is nearing their 3rd bottom 10 offense in 4yrs with Lebron..

2019: 24th
2020: 11th
2021: 24th
2022: 25th

These results are horrendous, but what's strange is how little attention its garnered nationally. I remember how much crap the Cavs got in 2017 and 2018 for their poor defense. It was all anyone could talk about with those teams....these Lakers have been every bit as bad offensively and those Cavs were defensively and no one cares. One of the greatest offensive players of all time goes to the Lakers of all teams....produces offenses that would shame tanking teams and no one seems to care.

I think having a defensive specialist coach in Vogel probably makes them better on defense and worse on offense. A reasonable 14th on defensive rating seems high a car crash team like this.

[trickshot]

Just saw that the Lakers fans boo’d LeBron last night. Smh. It’s so ridiculous that even Stephen A. Smith stuck up for Bron.

Read on Twitter

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Dude really was a fool for signing with LAL. I hope he demands a trade this summer.

It was those comments at the all star break. Terrible Terrible PR and I have no clue what he was thinking. Fan of the guy but I'd be livid if I was his PR manager. This is coming from someone who thought they should have done the Wood/Wall deal so it's not a matter of taking sides. It would be criminal if it only fell through because of money. Like let's get real, in a salary cap system the most talent should be the most expensive. Duh and Uh. Ownership definitely earned their own share of the boos.

[zimpy27]

Dj Augustin and Wenyen Gabriel

BIG MOVES

It's brutal, so brutal.

Team is dying for a big right now and some defense

[nzahir]

If we trade Russ to OKC for say Favors, do we get a trade exception and cap space to use?

Feels like that can be the best move if no good packages of players

Add some 2nds maybe to get Kenrich or Muscula