The 2022 NBA Draft Thread

Post #1681 » by **Def Swami** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:15 am

A couple of Sam Cassell dance worthy shots by Ivey and Davis to end this game.

Post #1682 » by **Knightro** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:19 am

Ivey finishes with 22 PTS, 5 REB, 5 AST, 1 STL on 8-15 FG, 3-7 3PT, but oddly just 3-9 from the FT line.

Davis goes for 16 PTS, 8 REB on 5-12 FG, 0-1 3PT, 6-6 FT.

thelead · Post #1683 » by **thelead** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:20 am

Ivey's midrange game is so odd. Why does he shoot 15 foot floaters instead of going up into a natural shot?

Post #1684 » by **Knightro** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:26 am

thelead wrote:Ivey's midrange game is so odd. Why does he shoot 15 foot floaters instead of going up into a natural shot?

I just don't think he's comfortable/experienced with taking short midrange jumpers off the dribble.

Remember two years ago how a lot of people wrote off Cole Anthony's crappy finishing in college because of UNC's propensity to play multiple traditional bigs which killed their space?

Ivey is dealing with that too, only he's still a really good finisher

I'm very curious to see how he adjusts to what should be a less clogged paint in the NBA. I think he might be a monster eventually.

VFX · Post #1685 » by **VFX** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:32 am

Can someone realistically rank these guards-

Suggs
Ivey
Cole
Fultz

And then tell me who is getting minutes and who is traded IF Ivey is even in question for the Orlando pick.

As much as I think Ivey is talented I fail to see him as realistic choice if the Magic land in the top 4. The front office would have to believe he is insurmountably better than the current backcourt AND the other top options on the board. Unlikely.

Post #1686 » by **Knightro** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:39 am

MagicMatic wrote:Can someone realistically rank these guards-

Suggs
Ivey
Cole
Fultz

And then tell me who is getting minutes and who is traded IF Ivey is even in question for the Orlando pick.

As much as I think Ivey is talented I fail to see him as realistic choice if the Magic land in the top 4

Well Cole stinks, so I wouldn't even put him on the list candidly. It's not like the Magic have invested heavily into him (or Hampton for that matter). He was a non-lotto first rounder. IMO if Fultz wasn't coming off an injury and could handle 30+ MPG, Cole would be barely playing right now anyway. He can get traded for a bag of basketballs and it won't be a big deal.

So it would be a 3-guard rotation of Fultz/Suggs/Ivey. Start whichever two you want. There's plenty of minutes to split among three guys.

Skin · Post #1687 » by **Skin** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:42 am

Davis with the win, but Ivey still a superior prospect.

Post #1688 » by **Knightro** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:47 am

After about two weeks of uninspiring, inefficient shooting - Banchero is 14-26 from the floor and 7-10 from three over his last two games.

He's lifted his 3PT by 4.5% in two games :lol:

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BCS · Post #1689 » by **BCS** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:55 am

Mathurin playing another beautiful game.

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thelead · Post #1690 » by **thelead** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 5:53 am

Knightro wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Can someone realistically rank these guards-

Suggs
Ivey
Cole
Fultz

And then tell me who is getting minutes and who is traded IF Ivey is even in question for the Orlando pick.

As much as I think Ivey is talented I fail to see him as realistic choice if the Magic land in the top 4

Well Cole stinks, so I wouldn't even put him on the list candidly. It's not like the Magic have invested heavily into him (or Hampton for that matter). He was a non-lotto first rounder. IMO if Fultz wasn't coming off an injury and could handle 30+ MPG, Cole would be barely playing right now anyway. He can get traded for a bag of basketballs and it won't be a big deal.

So it would be a 3-guard rotation of Fultz/Suggs/Ivey. Start whichever two you want. There's plenty of minutes to split among three guys.

100% agree. That said, still give me Jabari or Chet first. I'll take Ivey as a solid consolation prize though.

pepe1991 · Post #1691 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 6:13 am

Knightro wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Can someone realistically rank these guards-

Suggs
Ivey
Cole
Fultz

And then tell me who is getting minutes and who is traded IF Ivey is even in question for the Orlando pick.

As much as I think Ivey is talented I fail to see him as realistic choice if the Magic land in the top 4

Well Cole stinks, so I wouldn't even put him on the list candidly. It's not like the Magic have invested heavily into him (or Hampton for that matter). He was a non-lotto first rounder. IMO if Fultz wasn't coming off an injury and could handle 30+ MPG, Cole would be barely playing right now anyway. He can get traded for a bag of basketballs and it won't be a big deal.

So it would be a 3-guard rotation of Fultz/Suggs/Ivey. Start whichever two you want. There's plenty of minutes to split among three guys.

And what if Ivey can't shoot at nba level? You officially ruined another rebuild?

As for "Cole stinks" Cole, as sophmore in nba has higher TS% than Fultz ever had in nba and better BPM. And their assist numers are basically identical,despite fact i'm comapring 4 years of Fultz, mainly 3rd and 4th to sophmore Cole.

I'm not saying Cole is amazing, but most people talk down about Cole since we drafted Suggs mostly only because we drafted Suggs and because they keep overhyping Fultz. In reality, Cole has been much better than Suggs ( really not tall bar set there ) and overall better player than Fultz. Especially if we compare where they were drafted or experience vs experience. Sophmore Fultz played 19 games and had 45% TS.

Where i don't see scenario where Cole is elite player, i can easly see scenario where 4,5 years down the road on smaller role Cole is excellent at his bench scoring role opposite of other two who simply don't belong in modern basketball as long as they can't shoot at all.

Ivey is jet another shooting guard with questionable shooting who isn't excellent playmaker. All Magic current PGs are execlly same archytype of players- scoring guard who aren't much of facilitators. Even in best case scenarios ( McCullum- Lillard) there is just so much offense you actually want to alocate to your perimeter options especially in playoffs if you want any serious sucess. There hasn't been perimeter oriented sucessful team but Warriors...ever, where highest usage options were 2 guards.
And that Warriors team only won 1 championship without Durant and only chip they did won, was against team without 2 allstars in finals (and yet still struggled, with Curry having choke games and Igoudala out of all people lifting them)

KillMonger · Post #1692 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 7:02 am

Skin wrote:Davis with the win, but Ivey still a superior prospect.

slightly imo... but yes he is the better prospect

RookieStar · Post #1693 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 8:38 am

Are we really gonna go for Ivey if we have a top 3 pick?

Using BPA and/or FIT... wouldnt it make sense for it to be Banchero?

RookieStar · Post #1694 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 8:39 am

BTW im talking Bout if we are picking 3rd and everyones favorite of Chet and Smith are gone

KillMonger · Post #1695 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 8:39 am

RookieStar wrote:Are we really gonna go for Ivey if we have a top 3 pick?

Using BPA and/or FIT... wouldnt it make sense for it to be Banchero?

for me there's no scenario where i would pick ivey over banchero....banchero is bpa

jezzerinho · Post #1696 » by **jezzerinho** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 8:39 am

Mathurin's playmaking is really starting to take a jump forward.

He's definitely in the argument for me with our pick. I've been a little discouraged by how passive he's been in crunch time when Arizona are down and struggling to get back in the game. His off-ball movement isn't great.

But those bits aside, i don't think there's a ton of doubt he's going to be a very productive starter in the league for someone.

pepe1991 · Post #1697 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 9:36 am

I'm confused with majority of mock drafts this year and i just can't make any sense out of most things.

For start, imo, Chet is clear 1# pick. His weight is clear issue and will probably cost him some time out, but size, speed, agility, ability, skills. Nobody sniffs near him.

Jabari Smith might be one of most onedimensional players mocked to go first overall since Bargnani.
He can't put ball on the floor, he can't score inside paint, he is clumsy around rim, he isn't exponentional shotblocker nor rim protector nor rebounder, he is pretty bad passer. He does not excells at anything but mid range and 3 point shooting. He is execlly like Bargnani :lol:

maybe bit more mobile and better defender

Banchero is better scorer, better rebounder, better passer, maybe even better defender than Jabari and now he is on free fall in most of mocks? Why? And for who?

AJ Griffin? Justice Winslow 2. 6'6 college power forward who is role player with probably fluky 3% as his FT% is relativly low. ( nor he ever gets there ) . And even if his 3 ball is excellent, drafting so high in lottery player that has nothing in arsenal but spot ups is borderline idiotic. it's like using top 5 pick to draft Stauskas. Again. His tendency to play bullyball on guards in college ( execlly why i compared him with Winslow) is simply no-go in nba. He is too small to have size adventage over almost anybody.

Keegan Murray is being penalized for being ..old i guess? Last time that happened teams were passing on Donovan Mitchell, same was with Dillion Brooks or Kuzma. Rudy Gay / Kyle Kuzma is probably ballpark of comparison he will get, but tbh that's way better scenario than realistic outcome that half of top 8 picks this year will actually meet.

Whole Sharpe thing... like how da hell you can know you like him when he hasn't played serious basketball at any level ? Main reason why nba had to stop straight from highschool drafts was because teams were just awful at drafting those highschool players.

basketballRob · Post #1698 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 9:42 am

Hammond was at the Iowa game when Murray had 26 and 18.

RookieStar · Post #1699 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 10:00 am

basketballRob wrote:Hammond was at the Iowa game when Murray had 26 and 18.

Soooo... is he really 6'8? Just remember last draft duing team measurements when Cade was flund to be 6'6. I mean sure... for a PG it wont mean that much but for a PF? I saw some comments that he is 6'7 in shoes...

Is he capable of playing as a stretch 4? Does he have the speed to take his man off the dribble? Does he have a 3pt shot?

If the answer to those are yes then he might be worthy of a top 10 pick.

basketballRob · Post #1700 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Mar 2, 2022 10:06 am

RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Hammond was at the Iowa game when Murray had 26 and 18.

Soooo... is he really 6'8? Just remember last draft duing team measurements when Cade was flund to be 6'6. I mean sure... for a PG it wont mean that much but for a PF? I saw some comments that he is 6'7 in shoes...

Is he capable of playing as a stretch 4? Does he have the speed to take his man off the dribble? Does he have a 3pt shot?

If the answer to those are yes then he might be worthy of a top 10 pick.

I only watched a little of his highlights but he didn't look very quick. He reminded me of Tobias Harris.

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