Giannis Antetokounmpo: ‘Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team’

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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo: ‘Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team’ 

Post#201 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Mar 3, 2022 9:12 pm

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Tottery wrote:Lost by a point. All Butler had to do was shoot better than an abysmal 14%. Fully healthy, I'd still take them over the Bucks in a 7 game series though. Lowry helps them a lot.


Lopez, Cannaughton and Hill help a lot too :dontknow:

Not sure if your 'fully healthy' statement makes them better than the Bucks at full health as well


I'll be completely honest with you...I totally forgot about Lopez. He has been out that long lol. He will help them a ton defensively in the paint. I still may bet my money on Miami in a 7 game series though.

EDIT; He is out indefinitely and may not return this season I just read.


Correct. Them trading for Ibaka pretty much confirmed that tbh.
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Post#202 » by Packbuckman » Thu Mar 3, 2022 9:32 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:
Tottery wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
Lopez, Cannaughton and Hill help a lot too :dontknow:

Not sure if your 'fully healthy' statement makes them better than the Bucks at full health as well


I'll be completely honest with you...I totally forgot about Lopez. He has been out that long lol. He will help them a ton defensively in the paint. I still may bet my money on Miami in a 7 game series though.

EDIT; He is out indefinitely and may not return this season I just read.


Correct. Them trading for Ibaka pretty much confirmed that tbh.


Pat C being out really hurt after the trade for Ibaka. But the Bucks expect Lopez back he started practicing last week. I hope every team is fully healthy this year going to be a great playoffs.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo: ‘Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team’ 

Post#203 » by LUKE23 » Thu Mar 3, 2022 9:36 pm

TheLand13 wrote:No, it's a fundamentally flawed argument to use that as a reason to discredit what Miami was able to do against Milwaukee in a scenario where neither team had a crowd to work off of. It was very clear throughout the season that Miami was an insanely tough matchup for Milwaukee, as evidenced by the fact that on both occasions where they met with fans, Miami came out on top. In fact, the only times in that entire season that Milwaukee managed to beat Miami was when they were in the bubble. I can absolutely buy into the idea that HCA would've changed the outcome in a series like Den/LA for example. But to claim it would have mattered in a series in which Miami was on their way to sweeping Milwaukee until Giannis got injured and the Bucks were able to play a more well balanced and dynamic offense as a result? It sounds to me like you not only need to do a bit of research yourself, but you need to actually go watch those games and realize what Miami did to beat Milwaukee in the first place. The whole "they were built for the bubble argument" is laughable nonsense. They were just a matchup nightmare for Milwaukee, and Giannis can't get over that fact.


GA just did put up 28/17/5/2/1 against them with a great fourth quarter. Last playoff series he was at 23.5/15.0/7.8. In general, they do hold him down in terms of his scoring/efficiency numbers better than most teams, but he is learning how to pass out of the double/triple teams against them.

In regard to the bubble, meh, they beat us. The Bucks had Eric Bledsoe and they completely lost the HCA they had earned with a dominant regular season. We saw what happened last playoffs with Jrue holiday + the Bucks homecourt.

Now, I do think it will be tougher for the Bucks this season. Miami has improved and will likely have homecourt. A lot will depend on whether Lopez is back and how effective he is. He matches up extremely well against Miami because he can lay off Bam on defense and pull him out of the paint on offense, while also limiting the Heat's paint points. I do think Miami will struggle more in the playoffs than regular season though, having two starters that teams can pack the paint against (Bam, Butler) hurts a halfcourt offense.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo: ‘Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team’ 

Post#204 » by krystophh » Thu Mar 3, 2022 9:57 pm

Context...
Misleading title...
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo: ‘Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team’ 

Post#205 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu Mar 3, 2022 11:40 pm

The Bucks literally had a gameplan that didn't work against the Heat the entire year, and it had nothing to do with the fans. Giannis shot 45% from the floor, 15% from 3, and 54% from the line in the first 3 games(just over 22 ppg) where they went down 0-3 and he got hurt in game 4.

The star player was playing like ass, and I don't know what any of that has to do with the crowd, lol. He was getting locked up defensively because of the piss poor game plan and implementation of his ability, and some of his own deficiencies against a top tier, versatile playoff defense, and it wasn't the first time this happened to him.

When your star player's production is down that bad from his norm, you're not beating other title contenders unless you have a KD Warriors type roster.
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Post#206 » by dribble1614 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 12:09 am

regular season means nothing. giannis backed up his talk by sweeping and demolishing the heat last year on his way to one of the most dominant title runs in league history. he's earned the right to say this stuff.
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Post#207 » by canada_dry » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:10 pm

Tyler herro and Duncan Robinson, playoff virgins who did not have to deal with playing in opposing team arenas with a raucous crowd. Balled out. As soon as the next year came around and they got their first taste of real playoff atmosphere, they struggled as young players tend to do.

The lakers who can never stay healthy were gifted a 5 month long break with no games which assures them being healthy once the playoffs start. Something we have learned is An impossibility since .

All this = asterisk.

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Post#208 » by Blaze4G » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:36 pm

canada_dry wrote:Tyler herro and Duncan Robinson, playoff virgins who did not have to deal with playing in opposing team arenas with a raucous crowd. Balled out. As soon as the next year came around and they got their first taste of real playoff atmosphere, they struggled as young players tend to do.

The lakers who can never stay healthy were gifted a 5 month long break with no games which assures them being healthy once the playoffs start. Something we have learned is An impossibility since .

All this = asterisk.

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Not a fan of putting asterisks on championships. But a once in probably a lifetime event that resulted in a 4 months break deserve some sort of asterisk. Injuries I don't agree with putting an asterisk because it is part of the game. However, a pandemic is not part of the game, getting 4 months rests, playing without home court, fans, travel is not part of the game. It is an anomaly.

Who knows, maybe the lakers would have stayed healthy without the 4 months break, but the next 2 seasons has shown AD or Bron hasn't been able to stay healthy.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo: ‘Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team’ 

Post#209 » by Packbuckman » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:51 pm

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canada_dry wrote:Tyler herro and Duncan Robinson, playoff virgins who did not have to deal with playing in opposing team arenas with a raucous crowd. Balled out. As soon as the next year came around and they got their first taste of real playoff atmosphere, they struggled as young players tend to do.

The lakers who can never stay healthy were gifted a 5 month long break with no games which assures them being healthy once the playoffs start. Something we have learned is An impossibility since .

All this = asterisk.

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Not a fan of putting asterisks on championships. But a once in probably a lifetime event that resulted in a 4 months break deserve some sort of asterisk. Injuries I don't agree with putting an asterisk because it is part of the game. However, a pandemic is not part of the game, getting 4 months rests, playing without home court, fans, travel is not part of the game. It is an anomaly.

Who knows, maybe the lakers would have stayed healthy without the 4 months break, but the next 2 seasons has shown AD or Bron hasn't been able to stay healthy.


This right here and some teams like the Lakers and Heat were practicing way before any of the other teams were especially the bucks who didn’t look the same even in the games they had before the playoffs started.
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Post#210 » by Pachinko_ » Sat Mar 5, 2022 12:45 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:
Tottery wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
Lopez, Cannaughton and Hill help a lot too :dontknow:

Not sure if your 'fully healthy' statement makes them better than the Bucks at full health as well


I'll be completely honest with you...I totally forgot about Lopez. He has been out that long lol. He will help them a ton defensively in the paint. I still may bet my money on Miami in a 7 game series though.

EDIT; He is out indefinitely and may not return this season I just read.


Correct. Them trading for Ibaka pretty much confirmed that tbh.
Brook has just been cleared for contact and team practice and looking good in the pre game warm up in Chicago. Should be playing in a couple of weeks.
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Post#211 » by mediocrityrules » Sat Mar 5, 2022 12:57 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
Tottery wrote:
I'll be completely honest with you...I totally forgot about Lopez. He has been out that long lol. He will help them a ton defensively in the paint. I still may bet my money on Miami in a 7 game series though.

EDIT; He is out indefinitely and may not return this season I just read.


Correct. Them trading for Ibaka pretty much confirmed that tbh.
Brook has just been cleared for contact and team practice and looking good in the pre game warm up in Chicago. Should be playing in a couple of weeks.


Yeah, by playoffs we have Brook, Giannis, Portis and Ibaka in the front court. Not too bad.
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Post#212 » by Pachinko_ » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:10 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:
Correct. Them trading for Ibaka pretty much confirmed that tbh.
Brook has just been cleared for contact and team practice and looking good in the pre game warm up in Chicago. Should be playing in a couple of weeks.


Yeah, by playoffs we have Brook, Giannis, Portis and Ibaka in the front court. Not too bad.

Ibaka sucks tho
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Post#213 » by stillgotgame » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:45 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:Brook has just been cleared for contact and team practice and looking good in the pre game warm up in Chicago. Should be playing in a couple of weeks.


Yeah, by playoffs we have Brook, Giannis, Portis and Ibaka in the front court. Not too bad.

Ibaka sucks tho


Yep. He’s very, very stiff, can’t move at all. Hopefully Brook does better after his back surgery.
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Post#214 » by puppa bear » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:04 am

Packbuckman wrote:
Blaze4G wrote:
canada_dry wrote:Tyler herro and Duncan Robinson, playoff virgins who did not have to deal with playing in opposing team arenas with a raucous crowd. Balled out. As soon as the next year came around and they got their first taste of real playoff atmosphere, they struggled as young players tend to do.

The lakers who can never stay healthy were gifted a 5 month long break with no games which assures them being healthy once the playoffs start. Something we have learned is An impossibility since .

All this = asterisk.

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Not a fan of putting asterisks on championships. But a once in probably a lifetime event that resulted in a 4 months break deserve some sort of asterisk. Injuries I don't agree with putting an asterisk because it is part of the game. However, a pandemic is not part of the game, getting 4 months rests, playing without home court, fans, travel is not part of the game. It is an anomaly.

Who knows, maybe the lakers would have stayed healthy without the 4 months break, but the next 2 seasons has shown AD or Bron hasn't been able to stay healthy.


This right here and some teams like the Lakers and Heat were practicing way before any of the other teams were especially the bucks who didn’t look the same even in the games they had before the playoffs started.

It’s 1-1 in PO series in the Giannis/Middleton v Jimmy/Bam era. Both teams now have a PG added, so hopefully we can have a good competitive series if we meet in the PO.

If Giannis needs to talk smack to motivate himself, then so be it.
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Post#215 » by mediocrityrules » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:30 am

stillgotgame wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
Yeah, by playoffs we have Brook, Giannis, Portis and Ibaka in the front court. Not too bad.

Ibaka sucks tho


Yep. He’s very, very stiff, can’t move at all. Hopefully Brook does better after his back surgery.


Ibaka was literally a corpse on the floor tonight. Truly awful. If we get everyone back then he's 5-7 mins a game, and likely nothing in the PO's.
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Post#216 » by zimpy27 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:43 am

I don't usually bump threads like this but I recall Giannis saying this and I hadn't seen anyone bring it up. It seems relevant to reassess now.


In 2022 after Bucks won championship the season before:
Year 7. Ended with Miami. I don’t make excuses as an athlete, but it wasn’t a satisfying year for me because I felt like if it was a normal situation, it wouldn’t end up like that. But at the end of the day, I felt like Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team, you know?


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Post#217 » by Onlytimewilltel » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:48 am

zimpy27 wrote:I don't usually bump threads like this but I recall Giannis saying this and I hadn't seen anyone bring it up. It seems relevant to reassess now.


In 2022 after Bucks won championship the season before:
Year 7. Ended with Miami. I don’t make excuses as an athlete, but it wasn’t a satisfying year for me because I felt like if it was a normal situation, it wouldn’t end up like that. But at the end of the day, I felt like Miami was built to be an NBA bubble team, you know?


https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/02/23/giannis-antetokounmpo-miami-was-built-to-be-an-nba-bubble-team/


Maybe it’s another bubble
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Post#218 » by GrindCityHustle » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:49 am

Giannis is to Heat as Brooks is to Lakers

Alot of eating crow.

Giannis let's the media make him take bad hot takes lol
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Post#219 » by cam24thomas » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:02 am

Giannis is insanely arrogant, despite trying to be modest always, he leaks regularly.
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Post#220 » by goodboys lats » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:06 am

He didn't want to play with his food.

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