NFL Combine

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Frist drills start in an hour (NFL Network)

Whose excited??? I personally love it

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Small hands...

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It got adjusted to 4.28

Still amazing, just not record breaking.

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Evan Neal down to 337 pounds

Dude looks real fit, too

Still don't love the idea of going OT 1st overall for us, but he's still edging out Ekwonu for me for OT1

I don't put a lot of stock into the combine, it's just interesting to see numbers for me.

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Small hands...

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Ya I remember the Joe Burrow having too small of hands talk. He did have a funny response to all that talk though

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With that said, I do find it funny how teams try to sell themselves on a bad QB draft. I was watching NFL Network the other day and they were trying to say Malik Willis is the next Josh Allen... And Willis has been shooting up the draft boards lately. This QB class is bunk.

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Thornton is my Raiders brother from another mother cousin in London, Ontario.

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With that said, I do find it funny how teams try to sell themselves on a bad QB draft. I was watching NFL Network the other day and they were trying to say Malik Willis is the next Josh Allen... And Willis has been shooting up the draft boards lately. This QB class is bunk.

Willis throws a nice ball. But I have my eye on Desmond Ridder. His combine numbers are impressive. He's a guy to watch.

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With that said, I do find it funny how teams try to sell themselves on a bad QB draft. I was watching NFL Network the other day and they were trying to say Malik Willis is the next Josh Allen... And Willis has been shooting up the draft boards lately. This QB class is bunk.

Willis throws a nice ball. But I have my eye on Desmond Ridder. The guy is a winner. Mature. His combine numbers are impressive.

I wouldnt be shocked if we wont have a single starting QB out of this class within 3 years. I cant remember the last time the talking heads had to find ways to talk up a QB class as bad as this one. Probably 2013? I remember getting a kick out of people trying to convince themselves EJ Manuel and Geno had potential haha.

I do agree with you, if there is one guy Im intrigued about it is Ridder. I also wont lie, Ridder is probably the guy Ive seen actually play the most haha. I can safely say I have not caught a Malik Willis Liberty game haha. I saw a few Pickett games as well.

But from what Ive seen something about Willis throwing motion has me off a little. Just doesnt seem like a smooth natural throwing motion to me, but ya no doubt he has some pop when he throws it.

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With that said, I do find it funny how teams try to sell themselves on a bad QB draft. I was watching NFL Network the other day and they were trying to say Malik Willis is the next Josh Allen... And Willis has been shooting up the draft boards lately. This QB class is bunk.

Willis throws a nice ball. But I have my eye on Desmond Ridder. The guy is a winner. Mature. His combine numbers are impressive.

I wouldnt be shocked if we wont have a single starting QB out of this class within 3 years. I cant remember the last time the talking heads had to find ways to talk up a QB class as bad as this one. Probably 2013? I remember getting a kick out of people trying to convince themselves EJ Manuel and Geno had potential haha.

I do agree with you, if there is one guy Im intrigued about it is Ridder. I also wont lie, Ridder is probably the guy Ive seen actually play the most haha. I can safely say I have not caught a Malik Willis Liberty game haha. I saw a few Pickett games as well.

But from what Ive seen something about Willis throwing motion has me off a little. Just doesnt seem like a smooth natural throwing motion to me, but ya no doubt he has some pop when he throws it.

If I had to bet Willis will likely be the first QB taken (10-20 range).

Pickett will fall. Maybe even completely out of the 1st Round.

Spoiler:

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Willis throws a nice ball. But I have my eye on Desmond Ridder. The guy is a winner. Mature. His combine numbers are impressive.

I wouldnt be shocked if we wont have a single starting QB out of this class within 3 years. I cant remember the last time the talking heads had to find ways to talk up a QB class as bad as this one. Probably 2013? I remember getting a kick out of people trying to convince themselves EJ Manuel and Geno had potential haha.

I do agree with you, if there is one guy Im intrigued about it is Ridder. I also wont lie, Ridder is probably the guy Ive seen actually play the most haha. I can safely say I have not caught a Malik Willis Liberty game haha. I saw a few Pickett games as well.

But from what Ive seen something about Willis throwing motion has me off a little. Just doesnt seem like a smooth natural throwing motion to me, but ya no doubt he has some pop when he throws it.

If I had to bet Willis will likely be the first QB taken (10-20 range). Pickett will fall. Maybe even out of the 1st Round now.

Ridder will go late 1st - early 2nd.

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Jordan Davis is a flat out freak. Man if he is sitting there at 12, I would love for Minny to take him.

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But from what Ive seen something about Willis throwing motion has me off a little. Just doesnt seem like a smooth natural throwing motion to me, but ya no doubt he has some pop when he throws it.

Spoiler:

Malik Willis will not be a Seahawk.

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Isn’t the natural throwing motion criticism what was held against patrick mahomes? I wonder if that’s considered more negative than it should be.

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Isn’t the natural throwing motion criticism what was held against patrick mahomes? I wonder if that’s considered more negative than it should be.

I don't recall that criticism for Mahomes. Me personally, I never had an issue with his throwing motion. Willis throwing the ball reminds me of Hurts throwing the ball. Just doesn't look like a natural throwing motion to me. But no doubt it looks like Willis has the much stronger arm compared to Hurts.

Also with all of that said, I can't sit here and say I've seen a ton of Willis haha. Liberty football definitely wasn't on my to watch list the past year haha. So I'm going off strictly combine, highlights, and a few scouting guys I watch.

So me not being the biggest fan of Willis isn't a hill I will be willing to die on. But I am definitely weary of a very well known weak QB class that has a super late riser in it. This year's QB class reminds me of the EJ Manuel class. Everyone knew it was a garbage QB class then they had to talk a QB to be a worthy 1st round pick.

If I was a team that needed a QB, is much rather do a stop gap at QB this year then draft a QB early next year with a much better QB class.

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Isn’t the natural throwing motion criticism what was held against patrick mahomes? I wonder if that’s considered more negative than it should be.

I don't recall that criticism for Mahomes. Me personally, I never had an issue with his throwing motion. Willis throwing the ball reminds me of Hurts throwing the ball. Just doesn't look like a natural throwing motion to me. But no doubt it looks like Willis has the much stronger arm compared to Hurts.

Also with all of that said, I can't sit here and say I've seen a ton of Willis haha. Liberty football definitely wasn't on my to watch list the past year haha. So I'm going off strictly combine, highlights, and a few scouting guys I watch.

So me not being the biggest fan of Willis isn't a hill I will be willing to die on. But I am definitely weary of a very well known weak QB class that has a super late riser in it. This year's QB class reminds me of the EJ Manuel class. Everyone knew it was a garbage QB class then they had to talk a QB to be a worthy 1st round pick.

If I was a team that needed a QB, is much rather do a stop gap at QB this year then draft a QB early next year with a much better QB class.

Are we sure next year's is that much better?

I've not really been that impressed with Bryce Young. I think he's mostly been hyped up because it's Bama.

Stroud? Ohio State...

Willis isn't the perfect prospect. But he definitely has the tools that teams fall in love with.

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Isn’t the natural throwing motion criticism what was held against patrick mahomes? I wonder if that’s considered more negative than it should be.

I don't recall that criticism for Mahomes. Me personally, I never had an issue with his throwing motion. Willis throwing the ball reminds me of Hurts throwing the ball. Just doesn't look like a natural throwing motion to me. But no doubt it looks like Willis has the much stronger arm compared to Hurts.

Also with all of that said, I can't sit here and say I've seen a ton of Willis haha. Liberty football definitely wasn't on my to watch list the past year haha. So I'm going off strictly combine, highlights, and a few scouting guys I watch.

So me not being the biggest fan of Willis isn't a hill I will be willing to die on. But I am definitely weary of a very well known weak QB class that has a super late riser in it. This year's QB class reminds me of the EJ Manuel class. Everyone knew it was a garbage QB class then they had to talk a QB to be a worthy 1st round pick.

If I was a team that needed a QB, is much rather do a stop gap at QB this year then draft a QB early next year with a much better QB class.

Are we sure next year's is that much better?

I've not really been that impressed with Bryce Young. I think he's mostly been hyped up because it's Bama.

Stroud? Ohio State...

Willis isn't the perfect prospect. But he definitely has the tools that teams fall in love with.

I think Stroud will be the star of the draft next year. But ya I think there is a big gap between those two and anyone in this draft.

I agree that Willis has all the tools that teams fall in love with, but that's kind of the thing though. Willis wasn't really talked about anything more than a late 1st during the season. I think teams and people are at the point where they're trying to convince themselves that Willis is a high end QB prospect because he has those tools. But it's not like people didn't know he had those tools are year long.

Again I'm just always weary of QB classes like this. A class all year long people knew was garbage. But come draft time, there is QB void that needs to be filled early in the 1st, even if there are no legit QBs to fill it.

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I have my eye on Desmond Ridder. The guy is a winner. Mature. His combine numbers are impressive.

I do agree with you, if there is one guy Im intrigued about it is Ridder. I also wont lie, Ridder is probably the guy Ive seen actually play the most haha. I can safely say I have not caught a Malik Willis Liberty game haha. I saw a few Pickett games as well.

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What's wrong with Geno? He should be all rested up by now and ready to go.