2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 6) - with ROY poll

basketballRob · Post #81 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 12:34 pm

bkseven wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:franz first rookie to 1000 pt season ...almost 200 pt lead on other rookies

Cade would have about the same. 14 games less played at 15 ppg

Wagner would have better stats if he had 14 games off.

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srhcan · Post #82 » by **srhcan** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 12:51 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
srhcan wrote:Bad game by Barnes against Magic. Both Wagner and Suggs outplayed him.

You're always hating on Barnes for no reason...

All 3 were pretty bad tonight.

Wagner 5/14 from the field.
Suggs 4/16 from the field.
Barnes 4/15 from the field.

I don't know how you can possibly say one outplayed the other.

Barnes hasn't had this bad of a shooting night in a very long time. Whole Raptors team looked like complete garbage tonight (and yesterday).

Not hating, its hard love.

Que Rico · Post #83 » by **Que Rico** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:01 pm

A lot of paragraphs in this thread when only 2 words are needed: Herb Jones

orlando_joe · Post #84 » by **orlando_joe** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:03 pm

bkseven wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:franz first rookie to 1000 pt season ...almost 200 pt lead on other rookies

Cade would have about the same. 14 games less played at 15 ppg

and if franz took as many 3s and shots as cade he would have 100s more points with .franz fg % 46.6 cade 40...from 3 franz 36.5 cade 32.2 ..missing 25% of games is not a positive thing.. only one of top rookies shooting above league avg in fg% 3pt% ft% and pts per game

reanimator · Post #85 » by **reanimator** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:24 pm

Don't know why a few Magic fans are going after Cade lol...

Statlanta · Post #86 » by **Statlanta** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:30 pm

Everybody keeps mentioning Barnes and Mobley hitting the rookie wall but have any of the other rookies matched their peak production this season.

basketballRob · Post #87 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:32 pm

reanimator wrote:

Don't know why a few Magic fans are going after Cade lol...

No one attacked Cade.

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Ducklett · Post #88 » by **Ducklett** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:40 pm

Crazy.

orlando_joe · Post #89 » by **orlando_joe** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:40 pm

reanimator wrote:

Don't know why a few Magic fans are going after Cade lol...

no one was going after cade all i did was post franz first rookie to 1000 pts ..and piston fan put 2 cents in ..wich then lead to it looking like that...read first post and see were it went

basketballRob · Post #90 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:43 pm

Herb Jones #9 in the league in defensive Raptor for players that played at least 1163 minutes. Suggs #14, Mobley #26, Franz #64, Barnes #84, Giddey #94, Cade #115

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reanimator · Post #91 » by **reanimator** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:44 pm

whitehops wrote:cade this season is assisted on only 22.1% of his 2-point field goals. that's one of the lowest in the league and comparable to derozan (20.4%) or FVV (21.1%), with only players like harden, luka, SGA and trae young creating more of their own offense inside the arc. heck, even the 2021 ROY lamelo ball isn't creating as many of his own looks in his second season (neither is anthony edwards).

Exactly. Suggs/Giddey are the only other rookies who have to create for others while creating the lion's share of their own offense. Cade of those 3 is seeing an insane amount of defensive attention for a rookie. Coincidentally, these 3 have had efficiency struggles. Whether you think its something inherent in their game or because of their role is a different matter. I tend to fall in the latter camp.

Magic fans, my apologies. I see now a Pistons fan interjected initially.

srhcan · Post #92 » by **srhcan** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 2:29 pm

zaymon wrote:Pretty good showing from Orlando rookies despite poor efficiency. Suggs second best player on the floor behind Siakam, not afraid, making play after play. Wagner also aggressive but struggling against very physical defense, still making great reads. They were both much better than Barnes who played scared.

this is below the belt

zaymon · Post #93 » by **zaymon** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 2:46 pm

srhcan wrote:
zaymon wrote:Pretty good showing from Orlando rookies despite poor efficiency. Suggs second best player on the floor behind Siakam, not afraid, making play after play. Wagner also aggressive but struggling against very physical defense, still making great reads. They were both much better than Barnes who played scared.

this is below the belt

or tired i dont know. He just passed at every opportunity and refused to attack.

Moses ShamMoses · Post #94 » by **Moses ShamMoses** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:58 pm

Pistons have won 5 of last 7 games. If the Pistons end the season on a high note, I could see Cade taking home ROY (recency bias). The biggest advantage Mobley has over the rest of the field is the team success factor right now.

ocelot17 · Post #95 » by **ocelot17** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:48 pm

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ocelot17 · Post #96 » by **ocelot17** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:49 pm

Moses ShamMoses wrote:Pistons have won 5 of last 7 games. If the Pistons end the season on a high note, I could see Cade taking home ROY (recency bias). The biggest advantage Mobley has over the rest of the field is the team success factor right now.

Mobley has been mr. triple single lately.

JackTalkThai · Post #97 » by **JackTalkThai** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:57 pm

Is Mobley playing with a lingering injury or is it just a rookie wall?

basketballRob · Post #98 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:59 pm

JackTalkThai wrote:Is Mobley playing with a lingering injury or is it just a rookie wall?

His play hasn't been the same since Rubio went down. Rubio was an X-factor for the Cavs.

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Statlanta · Post #99 » by **Statlanta** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 7:03 pm

Mobley has the award locked up, I'm wondering where all this Cade talk is coming from. I don't even think he's been as good as Scottie Barnes this season.

gerd10 · Post #100 » by **gerd10** » Sat Mar 5, 2022 8:20 pm

Statlanta wrote:Mobley has the award locked up, I'm wondering where all this Cade talk is coming from. I don't even think he's been as good as Scottie Barnes this season.

Lmao what? Look at mobley’s past few games and compare it to Cade. Cade has been consistently good while Mobley has been consistently mediocre. Just say you don’t watch Cade and I’ll understand.

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