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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#121 » by wjun15 » Sat Mar 5, 2022 2:30 am

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Village Idiot wrote:Bam was actually pretty skilled coming out of college but he didn't get to show a lot of his skillset due to the role he played. Duren, on the other hand, is pretty unskilled. He doesn't have good hands or a feel for the game. I haven't read anywhere of any latent skills he might have. I'd steer clear of him with a lottery pick.


if he shows everything he'd be a top 3 pick. he's pretty on par with bam as a prospect when bam was in college (not in terms of style but as a prospect) go back to bam draft and I bet no one had him in the top 5. duren has alot of upside due to his physical tools and his passing isn't bad. these are the kinds of players you want to draft, not guys like meyers Leonard Collins Zellers


Duren is more in the Drummond / Wiseman tier than Bam. He just isnt skilled.

As for Zach, it never worked out but I would still love him as a backup C.

On another note, Bennedict Mathurian with our later LP is pretty appealing. The idea of a future in like 3 years with a Simons / Mathurian backcourt makes a ton of sense. Some freaking size for once. And Mathruain is a passable playmaker too.


im gonna say we have a higher than 50 percent chance we won't have our later pick with the way pelicans are playing. hopefully ad can come back asap
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#122 » by wjun15 » Sat Mar 5, 2022 2:33 am

Goldbum wrote:Yes I believe there is doubt. Grant is a disaster trade if it take a lotto pick. Maybe Hughes and those 2 seconds plus the trade exemption buy I don't pay more than that dude. He's half the defender he was and certified chucker


he plays on the pistons that's why. he's clearly not a first option but he would do well as the 3rd here (assuming simons/nurk are like secondish)
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#123 » by JRoy » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:23 pm

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Goldbum wrote:Yes I believe there is doubt. Grant is a disaster trade if it take a lotto pick. Maybe Hughes and those 2 seconds plus the trade exemption buy I don't pay more than that dude. He's half the defender he was and certified chucker


he plays on the pistons that's why. he's clearly not a first option but he would do well as the 3rd here (assuming simons/nurk are like secondish)


Grant is really a 4th-5th best starter on a good team.

Paying him third option money or giving a lotto pick for his services is overpaying.
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#124 » by GEE » Sat Mar 5, 2022 10:47 pm

Grant to me, is an easy NO. I just don't see him as the answer, or providing us with anything that Winslow doesn't give us already. Barely an upgrade, if one at all, Not to mention the cost.

In the draft, I think we have a good chance at a similar fate to what the Warriors got, with something like #2 & #9. Of course, I'd like to also see us go all business and hustle HOU for a second chance at a top 2 pick, along with #16 in a Dame deal, but not likely to happen, I know.

I really like watching Williams(C) at Duke. I don't know why, I just have a feeling he's going to be a solid Center in the league, and may be get overlooked, due to the talent around him. He will climb some I think, but #9 is likely too high, but I feel like he's exactly what we need, along with Jabari. He's also why I'd love to consider trying to get HOU's picks, likely may be available still at #16.

Soo unrealistic, I know, and even more unpopular due to the love for Dame, but adding four players, with four FRPs top 16, with two of those having a decent shot at the #1, would be just awesome IMO. Dream come true and totally hypothetically after those crazy balls fall...

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Post#125 » by wjun15 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:10 am

GEE wrote:Grant to me, is an easy NO. I just don't see him as the answer, or providing us with anything that Winslow doesn't give us already. Barely an upgrade, if one at all, Not to mention the cost.

In the draft, I think we have a good chance at a similar fate to what the Warriors got, with something like #2 & #9. Of course, I'd like to also see us go all business and hustle HOU for a second chance at a top 2 pick, along with #16 in a Dame deal, but not likely to happen, I know.

I really like watching Williams(C) at Duke. I don't know why, I just have a feeling he's going to be a solid Center in the league, and may be get overlooked, due to the talent around him. He will climb some I think, but #9 is likely too high, but I feel like he's exactly what we need, along with Jabari. He's also why I'd love to consider trying to get HOU's picks, likely may be available still at #16.

Soo unrealistic, I know, and even more unpopular due to the love for Dame, but adding four players, with four FRPs top 16, with two of those having a decent shot at the #1, would be just awesome IMO. Dream come true and totally hypothetically after those crazy balls fall...

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its okay to say you think Grant is not worth it for us considering how we are limited to probably one big signing this year, but to hes barely an upgrade without considering cost over Winslow is laughable. And Im sure NBA GM's would agree with me.
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#126 » by DusterBuster » Sun Mar 6, 2022 6:25 pm

GEE wrote:Grant to me, is an easy NO. I just don't see him as the answer, or providing us with anything that Winslow doesn't give us already. Barely an upgrade, if one at all, Not to mention the cost.

In the draft, I think we have a good chance at a similar fate to what the Warriors got, with something like #2 & #9. Of course, I'd like to also see us go all business and hustle HOU for a second chance at a top 2 pick, along with #16 in a Dame deal, but not likely to happen, I know.

I really like watching Williams(C) at Duke. I don't know why, I just have a feeling he's going to be a solid Center in the league, and may be get overlooked, due to the talent around him. He will climb some I think, but #9 is likely too high, but I feel like he's exactly what we need, along with Jabari. He's also why I'd love to consider trying to get HOU's picks, likely may be available still at #16.

Soo unrealistic, I know, and even more unpopular due to the love for Dame, but adding four players, with four FRPs top 16, with two of those having a decent shot at the #1, would be just awesome IMO. Dream come true and totally hypothetically after those crazy balls fall...

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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#127 » by Jsun947 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 7:50 pm

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GEE wrote:Grant to me, is an easy NO. I just don't see him as the answer, or providing us with anything that Winslow doesn't give us already. Barely an upgrade, if one at all, Not to mention the cost.

In the draft, I think we have a good chance at a similar fate to what the Warriors got, with something like #2 & #9. Of course, I'd like to also see us go all business and hustle HOU for a second chance at a top 2 pick, along with #16 in a Dame deal, but not likely to happen, I know.

I really like watching Williams(C) at Duke. I don't know why, I just have a feeling he's going to be a solid Center in the league, and may be get overlooked, due to the talent around him. He will climb some I think, but #9 is likely too high, but I feel like he's exactly what we need, along with Jabari. He's also why I'd love to consider trying to get HOU's picks, likely may be available still at #16.

Soo unrealistic, I know, and even more unpopular due to the love for Dame, but adding four players, with four FRPs top 16, with two of those having a decent shot at the #1, would be just awesome IMO. Dream come true and totally hypothetically after those crazy balls fall...

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its okay to say you think Grant is not worth it for us considering how we are limited to probably one big signing this year, but to hes barely an upgrade without considering cost over Winslow is laughable. And Im sure NBA GM's would agree with me.


If Grant was on a contract more similar to Norman Powell’s I would have no problem trading the 11th-13th pick for him. I don’t like the idea of him on a max deal one bit though
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#128 » by Blazinaway » Sun Mar 6, 2022 9:14 pm

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GEE wrote:Grant to me, is an easy NO. I just don't see him as the answer, or providing us with anything that Winslow doesn't give us already. Barely an upgrade, if one at all, Not to mention the cost.

In the draft, I think we have a good chance at a similar fate to what the Warriors got, with something like #2 & #9. Of course, I'd like to also see us go all business and hustle HOU for a second chance at a top 2 pick, along with #16 in a Dame deal, but not likely to happen, I know.

I really like watching Williams(C) at Duke. I don't know why, I just have a feeling he's going to be a solid Center in the league, and may be get overlooked, due to the talent around him. He will climb some I think, but #9 is likely too high, but I feel like he's exactly what we need, along with Jabari. He's also why I'd love to consider trying to get HOU's picks, likely may be available still at #16.

Soo unrealistic, I know, and even more unpopular due to the love for Dame, but adding four players, with four FRPs top 16, with two of those having a decent shot at the #1, would be just awesome IMO. Dream come true and totally hypothetically after those crazy balls fall...

#1 ORL-Chet, #2 POR-Jabari, #5 POR-Banchero, #9 POR-BPA? & #16 POR-Williams


its okay to say you think Grant is not worth it for us considering how we are limited to probably one big signing this year, but to hes barely an upgrade without considering cost over Winslow is laughable. And Im sure NBA GM's would agree with me.


If Grant was on a contract more similar to Norman Powell’s I would have no problem trading the 11th-13th pick for him. I don’t like the idea of him on a max deal one bit though


would prefer to go after an attainable guy like Jalen Smith this summer, and use out pick to either draft another big/wing or use for another a trade (not Grant)
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#129 » by Case2012 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:12 pm

If people are really interested in grant, just draft Murray for a fraction of the cost.

Even if the cost wasn't high I'm not sure I'd even want Grant on the team, with the money and role he's expecting and only one year left on his deal the risk isn't worth it.

Murray being 22 next season, he could start right away and be a 18/8 guy with decent defense.
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#130 » by PDXKnight » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:25 pm

Case2012 wrote:If people are really interested in grant, just draft Murray for a fraction of the cost.

Even if the cost wasn't high I'm not sure I'd even want Grant on the team, with the money and role he's expecting and only one year left on his deal the risk isn't worth it.

Murray being 22 next season, he could start right away and be a 18/8 guy with decent defense.


Yeah i’m good with no grant unless we can get him for a tpe alone. I’d take a flyer on him at no added expense but a 1 year rental isn’t worth losing draft capital over unless maybe that’s the move we make to keep dame content. But jerami on a max deal or anything more than 20 mil per makes me queasy

That being said for some reason i feel like this is the move we make, but we’d better not give up our pick as that’s a major overpay
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Post#131 » by Blazinaway » Mon Mar 7, 2022 12:24 am

Case2012 wrote:If people are really interested in grant, just draft Murray for a fraction of the cost.

Even if the cost wasn't high I'm not sure I'd even want Grant on the team, with the money and role he's expecting and only one year left on his deal the risk isn't worth it.

Murray being 22 next season, he could start right away and be a 18/8 guy with decent defense.
I like Murray but Tari Eason is becoming one of my faves
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Re: 2022 draft/prospects thread 

Post#132 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Mar 7, 2022 3:41 pm

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Case2012 wrote:If people are really interested in grant, just draft Murray for a fraction of the cost.

Even if the cost wasn't high I'm not sure I'd even want Grant on the team, with the money and role he's expecting and only one year left on his deal the risk isn't worth it.

Murray being 22 next season, he could start right away and be a 18/8 guy with decent defense.
I like Murray but Tari Eason is becoming one of my faves


Ya, Murray vs Eason is going to be a hard choice moving forwad. Both have lots to like.

Murry for sure has a better shot and mechanics, but Eason plays with an urgency that Billups will drool over.
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Post#133 » by Blazinaway » Mon Mar 7, 2022 6:59 pm

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Case2012 wrote:If people are really interested in grant, just draft Murray for a fraction of the cost.

Even if the cost wasn't high I'm not sure I'd even want Grant on the team, with the money and role he's expecting and only one year left on his deal the risk isn't worth it.

Murray being 22 next season, he could start right away and be a 18/8 guy with decent defense.
I like Murray but Tari Eason is becoming one of my faves


Ya, Murray vs Eason is going to be a hard choice moving forwad. Both have lots to like.

Murry for sure has a better shot and mechanics, but Eason plays with an urgency that Billups will drool over.

Yeah he's a real alpha dog and helluva defender, got his 3pt percentage up to 37%
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Post#134 » by Case2012 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 4:36 am

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Blazinaway wrote: I like Murray but Tari Eason is becoming one of my faves


Ya, Murray vs Eason is going to be a hard choice moving forwad. Both have lots to like.

Murry for sure has a better shot and mechanics, but Eason plays with an urgency that Billups will drool over.

Yeah he's a real alpha dog and helluva defender, got his 3pt percentage up to 37%


They both play with urgency and Murray is really underrated as a defender. He gets into passing lanes and finishes well on the fast break which obviously fits into Billups style. If both the picks end up in that 8-10 range why not take them both? They’re both combo forwards that play on both ends and you can’t go wrong with loading up on wings/forwards IMO. If they were in the same line up I could see them being interchangeable at the 3/4.

If i had to choose I’m going with Murray but Eason is intriguing.
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Post#135 » by Goldbum » Tue Mar 8, 2022 6:48 pm

Right now I 100% agree with case on this. Without any lottery luck it likely Murray and Eason could be BPA at both picks. I read Hollinger saying Eason is shorter than listed and not very long. That scares the crap out of me. If he's Dillon Brooks size instead of the Aminu or OG size I pass. Why draft a guy who's smaller than Nas Little to play SF? If he and Murray test and Measure well they could be fantastic book ends.
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Post#136 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:45 pm

Goldbum wrote:Right now I 100% agree with case on this. Without any lottery luck it likely Murray and Eason could be BPA at both picks. I read Hollinger saying Eason is shorter than listed and not very long. That scares the crap out of me. If he's Dillon Brooks size instead of the Aminu or OG size I pass. Why draft a guy who's smaller than Nas Little to play SF? If he and Murray test and Measure well they could be fantastic book ends.


Eason measuring under 6'7 in shoes would be a shocker to me. I think he might be shorter than his listed 6'8, but not much. He certainly doesnt look Nas size.

On the other hand watching them on film Murray looks quite a bit bigger and is listed at the same height, but he is bulkier and that may be in play. Keegan posting 3.4 BLK+STL w/ only 1.9 PF is pretty absurd. And his shot is way smoother than Tari, but that intensity Eason brings you just dont see in Murray IMO.
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Post#137 » by Case2012 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 11:36 pm

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Post#138 » by Case2012 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:58 am


Watching this game, Murray looks like he’d fit really well in Billups system. He needs to develop some playing making skills but coaching will help that. Really like his motor and he looks like a very fluid athlete in transition.

Tbh the only other guy I would take over him is Jabari…
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Post#139 » by Goldbum » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:26 am

Jabari Walker is a sleeper.
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Post#140 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:19 pm

Goldbum wrote:Jabari Walker is a sleeper.


Ya, I get alot of McDaniels brothers vibes from him. Nice utility guy. Can play both F. Bouncy, nice defender, spotty shot.

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