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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#681 » by PintSizedBox10 » Sat Mar 5, 2022 7:54 pm

The media reports about this hoopla are all over the place. I'd prefer a trade but let's see what happens.

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Post#682 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Mar 5, 2022 8:48 pm

Love + whatever they get for Rodgers and Adams + keeping their own FAs is a competitive team. 9 wins could win the division next year and I think they could do it with Love.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#683 » by M-C-G » Sat Mar 5, 2022 9:01 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Love + whatever they get for Rodgers and Adams + keeping their own FAs is a competitive team. 9 wins could win the division next year and I think they could do it with Love.


Let's just say for discussion, 9, 40, 75, 96 plus 1st and 2nd next year along with Jeudy and maybe one other piece for Adams and Rodgers.

Would absolutely allow us to retool, see what we have in Love and if it isn't great, you have a better QB class in 2023 to take a swing at replacing Love.

For us, we reset expectations, and if we make the playoffs, well that is awesome. If we hit on Love, that is awesome, if we don't, oh well lets start looking at that next draft class where we have 4 picks in the top 100 in 2023.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#684 » by Daver » Sat Mar 5, 2022 9:51 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:Love + whatever they get for Rodgers and Adams + keeping their own FAs is a competitive team. 9 wins could win the division next year and I think they could do it with Love.


Let's just say for discussion, 9, 40, 75, 96 plus 1st and 2nd next year along with Jeudy and maybe one other piece for Adams and Rodgers.

Would absolutely allow us to retool, see what we have in Love and if it isn't great, you have a better QB class in 2023 to take a swing at replacing Love.

For us, we reset expectations, and if we make the playoffs, well that is awesome. If we hit on Love, that is awesome, if we don't, oh well lets start looking at that next draft class where we have 4 picks in the top 100 in 2023.

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MLF has to take alot of the blame for how love has looked.We fans can dump on love and say he sucks but our HC threw him to the dogs against KC and absolutely s rewed him over with a garbage O game plan even admitted it after the game.
MLF needs to frow a set and stop apologizing for his bad in game decisions and start showing he can adapt n adjust neither he has done in big games.
I think love could be a decent starter but MLF has to set him up to suceed JMO
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#685 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Mar 5, 2022 11:38 pm

I liked what I saw from Love in the 4th quarter of that KC game. Despite running for his life he was able to pick up first downs get through his progressions. Sucks that the defense couldn’t come up with a stop. Would’ve loved to see him running a two minute drill to potentially win the game. The narrative on him would be way different if he scores on a final drive.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#686 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 8:37 am

PintSizedBox10 wrote:The media reports about this hoopla are all over the place.

Exactly.

So many "sources" and "we're hearing" bullsh*t. Sad part is people fall for it. The media hyping all this Rodgers stuff up last off-season and now has really turned Packer fans on him. :lol: Amazing how some people can't form their own opinions.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#687 » by zmanishere11 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 3:37 pm

The thing about trading Rodgers and moving on from Davante, while it would obviously hurt, we could keep most of the D from last year together and go from cap hell to having a lot of flexibility next year really quickly.

Leaves you with only Lazard at WR, but you can deal with that in the draft, and given the teams he has "ok'd" a trade to we likely see a WR like Jeudy or Dionte back in return.

Seeing the run the Bengals went on - I still think we could win next year assuming Love isn't absolute trash (which is 100% possible). If he sucks you figure it out after the year with what's likely a high draft pick in a better QB draft.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#688 » by Profound23 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 3:48 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:The media reports about this hoopla are all over the place.

Exactly.

So many "sources" and "we're hearing" bullsh*t. Sad part is people fall for it. The media hyping all this Rodgers stuff up last off-season and now has really turned Packer fans on him. :lol: Amazing how some people can't form their own opinions.


We can't blame the media for all of this. Rodgers came out himself and said he didn't feel he wanted to stay with the team last year because they let all these cap casualties....listing a bunch of players that were actually cut or not re-signed because of the salary cap/his inflated contracts over the years. The media then leaked that he listed a bunch of demands before he would come back (i.e. giving him an early opt-out, getting Cobb, giving him more say in personnel changes, etc). They were obviously right about those things because they happened. So while Rodgers and his camp are calling BS on all of this, all he has to do is put his money where his mouth is.

You want to stay in GB, sign the deal.
You want to win, then sign a team-friendly deal.
You want to be the highest paid QB, ok then you probably lose Davante.
You want to be the highest paid QB AND keep Davante, ok we will end up cutting a bunch of players and you will be back to complaining about how we released these players.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#689 » by RRyder823 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 4:43 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:The media reports about this hoopla are all over the place.

Exactly.

So many "sources" and "we're hearing" bullsh*t. Sad part is people fall for it. The media hyping all this Rodgers stuff up last off-season and now has really turned Packer fans on him. Amazing how some people can't form their own opinions.


Yeah Rodgers is perfect and nothing is ever his fault so let's just blame the media for all this.

Saying "amazing how some people can't form their own opinions" is just irony at its finest



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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#690 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Mar 6, 2022 5:33 pm

Profound23 wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:The media reports about this hoopla are all over the place.

Exactly.

So many "sources" and "we're hearing" bullsh*t. Sad part is people fall for it. The media hyping all this Rodgers stuff up last off-season and now has really turned Packer fans on him. Amazing how some people can't form their own opinions.


We can't blame the media for all of this. Rodgers came out himself and said he didn't feel he wanted to stay with the team last year because they let all these cap casualties....listing a bunch of players that were actually cut or not re-signed because of the salary cap/his inflated contracts over the years. The media then leaked that he listed a bunch of demands before he would come back (i.e. giving him an early opt-out, getting Cobb, giving him more say in personnel changes, etc). They were obviously right about those things because they happened. So while Rodgers and his camp are calling BS on all of this, all he has to do is put his money where his mouth is.

You want to stay in GB, sign the deal.
You want to win, then sign a team-friendly deal.
You want to be the highest paid QB, ok then you probably lose Davante.
You want to be the highest paid QB AND keep Davante, ok we will end up cutting a bunch of players and you will be back to complaining about how we released these players.
The NFL media landscape is so crowded you have trash elements looking for eye balls but yeah certainly can't put it all on them. People were quick to rip the original 'he wants out' reporting last draft but the media was right. Rodgers also loves giving vague ass interviews so seems he likes the attention of all this.

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Post#691 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 5:51 pm

How do WE know what's going on behind the scenes? How do WE know Rodgers hasn't already told the team what he plans on doing? People are pissed because THEY need to know NOW.

I'm not saying Rodgers is innocent in all of this. But man, people look to find ANY reason to hate on him. And a lot of the times the media is fueling it, and people eat it up. "Rodgers wants $50 million"...people flipped out, despite there being no source. "Rodgers likely will announce his decision on the Pat McAfee Show tomorrow". He doesn't, and never said he was...people freak out.

Rodgers' whole career he said he wanted to finish his career in GB. Wanted to play into his 40's. Packer go to the NFCCG in 2020, and what do they do? Draft Rodgers' replacement in the 1st round (trading up, even) instead of trying to strengthen the current team who was on the verge of the SB. And they don't even talk to Rodgers about it?? That's disrespectful, period.

Any QB would be pissed about that. Especially a Hall of Fame QB who's still playing at a high level. Then you look at how GB has NEVER drafted a WR/TE in the 1st round for Rodgers' ENTIRE career. That's just insane. Or the lack of WR FA's over the years. So no, Rodgers hasn't always gotten what he wants. His QB coaches being let go with nobody asking him about it. Etc. But people point to him wanting Cobb back. "Aww, big baby gets what he wants again".

And even in all of drama during last off-season, Rodgers was in contact with Love. When he came back, he's done nothing but taken Love under his wings. Things Favre didn't do when Rodgers was drafted.

Anyways, like I said, Rodgers isn't 100% innocent in all of this. But the hate some fans have for him all of a sudden is just over the top IMO. He hasn't done anything that bad, people. I know a LOT of the hate comes from him not being vaccinated.
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Post#692 » by Profound23 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 6:34 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:How do WE know what's going on behind the scenes? How do WE know Rodgers hasn't already told the team what he plans on doing? People are pissed because THEY need to know NOW.

I'm not saying Rodgers is innocent in all of this. But man, people look to find ANY reason to hate on him. And a lot of the times the media is fueling it, and people eat it up. "Rodgers wants $50 million"...people flipped out, despite there being no source. "Rodgers likely will announce his decision on the Pat McAfee Show tomorrow". He doesn't, and never said he was...people freak out.

Rodgers' whole career he said he wanted to finish his career in GB. Wanted to play into his 40's. Packer go to the NFCCG in 2020, and what do they do? Draft Rodgers' replacement in the 1st round (trading up, even) instead of trying to strengthen the current team who was on the verge of the SB. And they don't even talk to Rodgers about it?? That's disrespectful, period.

Any QB would be pissed about that. Especially a Hall of Fame QB who's still playing at a high level. Then you look at how GB has NEVER drafted a WR/TE in the 1st round for Rodgers' ENTIRE career. That's just insane. Or the lack of WR FA's over the years. So no, Rodgers hasn't always gotten what he wants. His QB coaches being let go with nobody asking him about it. Etc. But people point to him wanting Cobb back. "Aww, big baby gets what he wants again".

And even in all of drama during last off-season, Rodgers was in contact with Love. When he came back, he's done nothing but taken Love under his wings. Things Favre didn't do when Rodgers was drafted.

Anyways, like I said, Rodgers isn't 100% innocent in all of this. But the hate some fans have for him all of a sudden is just over the top IMO. He hasn't done anything that bad, people. I know a LOT of the hate comes from him not being vaccinated.


We know because our own coach and GM have said publically Rodgers is making a decision while stating they are giving him time and being respectful.

Hate about not being vaccinated? Who cares about that?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#693 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 6:39 pm

Profound23 wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:How do WE know what's going on behind the scenes? How do WE know Rodgers hasn't already told the team what he plans on doing? People are pissed because THEY need to know NOW.

I'm not saying Rodgers is innocent in all of this. But man, people look to find ANY reason to hate on him. And a lot of the times the media is fueling it, and people eat it up. "Rodgers wants $50 million"...people flipped out, despite there being no source. "Rodgers likely will announce his decision on the Pat McAfee Show tomorrow". He doesn't, and never said he was...people freak out.

Rodgers' whole career he said he wanted to finish his career in GB. Wanted to play into his 40's. Packer go to the NFCCG in 2020, and what do they do? Draft Rodgers' replacement in the 1st round (trading up, even) instead of trying to strengthen the current team who was on the verge of the SB. And they don't even talk to Rodgers about it?? That's disrespectful, period.

Any QB would be pissed about that. Especially a Hall of Fame QB who's still playing at a high level. Then you look at how GB has NEVER drafted a WR/TE in the 1st round for Rodgers' ENTIRE career. That's just insane. Or the lack of WR FA's over the years. So no, Rodgers hasn't always gotten what he wants. His QB coaches being let go with nobody asking him about it. Etc. But people point to him wanting Cobb back. "Aww, big baby gets what he wants again".

And even in all of drama during last off-season, Rodgers was in contact with Love. When he came back, he's done nothing but taken Love under his wings. Things Favre didn't do when Rodgers was drafted.

Anyways, like I said, Rodgers isn't 100% innocent in all of this. But the hate some fans have for him all of a sudden is just over the top IMO. He hasn't done anything that bad, people. I know a LOT of the hate comes from him not being vaccinated.


We know because our own coach and GM have said publically Rodgers is making a decision while stating they are giving him time and being respectful.

Hate about not being vaccinated? Who cares about that?


1) You think a sports teams' front office is always honest when talking to the media? And even if he hasn't decided yet, who cares?

2) Have you been living under a rock the past 2 years? The hate that the pro-vax and anti-vax crowd have towards each other was/is on another level.
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Post#694 » by RRyder823 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 6:42 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:How do WE know what's going on behind the scenes? How do WE know Rodgers hasn't already told the team what he plans on doing? People are pissed because THEY need to know NOW.

I'm not saying Rodgers is innocent in all of this. But man, people look to find ANY reason to hate on him. And a lot of the times the media is fueling it, and people eat it up. "Rodgers wants $50 million"...people flipped out, despite there being no source. "Rodgers likely will announce his decision on the Pat McAfee Show tomorrow". He doesn't, and never said he was...people freak out.

Rodgers' whole career he said he wanted to finish his career in GB. Wanted to play into his 40's. Packer go to the NFCCG in 2020, and what do they do? Draft Rodgers' replacement in the 1st round (trading up, even) instead of trying to strengthen the current team who was on the verge of the SB. And they don't even talk to Rodgers about it?? That's disrespectful, period.

Any QB would be pissed about that. Especially a Hall of Fame QB who's still playing at a high level. Then you look at how GB has NEVER drafted a WR/TE in the 1st round for Rodgers' ENTIRE career. That's just insane. Or the lack of WR FA's over the years. So no, Rodgers hasn't always gotten what he wants. His QB coaches being let go with nobody asking him about it. Etc. But people point to him wanting Cobb back. "Aww, big baby gets what he wants again".

And even in all of drama during last off-season, Rodgers was in contact with Love. When he came back, he's done nothing but taken Love under his wings. Things Favre didn't do when Rodgers was drafted.

Anyways, like I said, Rodgers isn't 100% innocent in all of this. But the hate some fans have for him all of a sudden is just over the top IMO. He hasn't done anything that bad, people. I know a LOT of the hate comes from him not being vaccinated.


Really reaching on that last part there. This is Wisconsin not Cali. I'd place bets that endeared him to way more people in the state then it turned off.

Anyways this post is just a long winded way of giving Rodgers the benefit of the doubt on everything. Don't be shocked when people have a more cynical view of him



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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#695 » by M-C-G » Sun Mar 6, 2022 7:46 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:How do WE know what's going on behind the scenes? How do WE know Rodgers hasn't already told the team what he plans on doing? People are pissed because THEY need to know NOW.

I'm not saying Rodgers is innocent in all of this. But man, people look to find ANY reason to hate on him. And a lot of the times the media is fueling it, and people eat it up. "Rodgers wants $50 million"...people flipped out, despite there being no source. "Rodgers likely will announce his decision on the Pat McAfee Show tomorrow". He doesn't, and never said he was...people freak out.

Rodgers' whole career he said he wanted to finish his career in GB. Wanted to play into his 40's. Packer go to the NFCCG in 2020, and what do they do? Draft Rodgers' replacement in the 1st round (trading up, even) instead of trying to strengthen the current team who was on the verge of the SB. And they don't even talk to Rodgers about it?? That's disrespectful, period.

Any QB would be pissed about that. Especially a Hall of Fame QB who's still playing at a high level. Then you look at how GB has NEVER drafted a WR/TE in the 1st round for Rodgers' ENTIRE career. That's just insane. Or the lack of WR FA's over the years. So no, Rodgers hasn't always gotten what he wants. His QB coaches being let go with nobody asking him about it. Etc. But people point to him wanting Cobb back. "Aww, big baby gets what he wants again".

And even in all of drama during last off-season, Rodgers was in contact with Love. When he came back, he's done nothing but taken Love under his wings. Things Favre didn't do when Rodgers was drafted.

Anyways, like I said, Rodgers isn't 100% innocent in all of this. But the hate some fans have for him all of a sudden is just over the top IMO. He hasn't done anything that bad, people. I know a LOT of the hate comes from him not being vaccinated.


Really reaching on that last part there. This is Wisconsin not Cali. I'd place bets that endeared him to way more people in the state then it turned off.

Anyways this post is just a long winded way of giving Rodgers the benefit of the doubt on everything. Don't be shocked when people have a more cynical view of him



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People forget the year before the team told Rodgers they were thinking about a QB and Rodgers publicly said he understood and it was part of the business. But we magically sweep that under the rug so we can pretend he was blindsided and he can be the victim.


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Post#696 » by Swan Vox » Mon Mar 7, 2022 3:00 pm

Von Miller? Sure, but not sure how we make those financials work…

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Post#697 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:13 pm

Rather keep Campbell than sign Miller. Of course both would be great but I can't imagine keeping Rodgers, Adams, Campbell and adding any FA of any significance. Although you can work a lot of smoke and mirrors with the cap numbers.
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Post#698 » by RedMosquito76 » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:14 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:The media reports about this hoopla are all over the place.

Exactly.

So many "sources" and "we're hearing" bullsh*t. Sad part is people fall for it. The media hyping all this Rodgers stuff up last off-season and now has really turned Packer fans on him. Amazing how some people can't form their own opinions.


Yeah Rodgers is perfect and nothing is ever his fault so let's just blame the media for all this.

Saying "amazing how some people can't form their own opinions" is just irony at its finest

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It seems to me that he did bring it on himself last year with the demands and skipping OTA's, etc. This year though, I do think it's on the media. At the end of the season he said he'd make a decision by the time the team needs to make a call on Davante, and that time is this week. But ESPN and Mike Florio and every other football talking head has been flapping their gums every day like there's news when there hasn't been.

Personally I think Rodgers gets an undeserved bad rap from a lot of fans, but I also understand why. He's one of the best we will ever see at the job, but he's not the jovial overgrown-kid the way Favre was and people take it as an attitude or ego. I doubt we are going to have lightning strike a third time with Love, so I give 12 the benefit of the doubt all the way up until it's over.
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Post#699 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:35 pm

I'll preface this by acknowledging Aaron has the right to **** with the media if he wants to and as a vindictive type I think some of it is intentional. He's a smart calculated guy who had to know his weird pooping/fasting brained IG post would cause a stir and get people thinking his decision was coming. I think he both likes the attention (not exactly a shocking thing for a long time famous QB) and likes messing with the media by dropping little ambiguous leaks.

It's the same with the beginning of that vax stuff. Aaron knew he intentionally mislead the media so shouldn't have act shocked when he got called out for it. I didn't give a **** he wasn't vax'd just found it silly how he reacted to getting made fun of for something he absolutely deserved to get made fun of. Also I'd say 90% or peeps would have cracked their Twitter jokes then moved on had he not went on his little rants.

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Post#700 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:46 pm

The Green Bay Packers have made a significant long-term contract offer to Aaron Rodgers that would alter the quarterback market, a source told ESPN.

Terms of a potential new contract could always change, but a three- or four-year deal would help Green Bay's salary-cap situation while giving Rodgers, 38, contractual clarity well into his 40s.

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