Official Scottie Barnes Thread 2

[HumbleRen]

it just seems odd to me that he would completely dog it on defense and not close out on a 38% 3-point shooter and then two possessions later start yelling at a teammate... for not closing out on a shooter lol.

I think consistency and focus are two of the largest opportunity areas for rookies. Some guys never get there. There is so much sacrifice that goes into staying locked in at the highest level, and then outperforming most of your peers in the league.

I've definitely seen the intensity people talked about, and that I saw in countless FSU videos since Barnes has been drafted. He just needs to channel and sustain it consistently, and at a reasonable level (acknowledging you can't go balls-out 100% of the time).

He's gotta work on that, he'll sometimes run as hard as he can down the floor for no reason or pressure guys at the half court line, exerting so much energy. He's gotta find that nice balance.

[Tha Cynic]

it just seems odd to me that he would completely dog it on defense and not close out on a 38% 3-point shooter and then two possessions later start yelling at a teammate... for not closing out on a shooter lol.

I think consistency and focus are two of the largest opportunity areas for rookies. Some guys never get there. There is so much sacrifice that goes into staying locked in at the highest level, and then outperforming most of your peers in the league.

I've definitely seen the intensity people talked about, and that I saw in countless FSU videos since Barnes has been drafted. He just needs to channel and sustain it consistently, and at a reasonable level (acknowledging you can't go balls-out 100% of the time).

Well at some point the human body just can't sustain that with the amount of minutes you play. I know everyone here has seen numerous times in the last 10 days where FVV doesn't even bother running back on defense or getting out to shooters. In fact it has been even more apparent in him lately. I think it's clear the Nick Nurse running players into the ground thing is coming through.

[Vampirate]

The honest truth is the more talented you are the more energy you can save and still get similar results.

If Barnes ever gets a reliable midrange shot, he can use it to pace himself better.

[srhcan]

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

[digitalallstar]

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

The reality is the opposite of what you just said.

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[Scottie4Bro]

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He just had yet another good game and people like you continue to eat crow.

[Madhouse]

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He had 19/12/6/3 on 8-14 shooting with zero turnovers.

Odd comment to make.

But what do you expect with some people on here.

[dTox]

He showed up against both of his competitors in Mobley/Cade, and one can make a case he had a bigger impact in both games than his peers (key word: can). Considering Scottie is the more raw as a scorer compared to the other two (yet putting up competitive numbers), he has legitimate potential at becoming the best player in this draft one day.

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[HumbleRen]

Bad news, Mobley outplayed him.

Good news, he dropped 19/12/6 on 57% shooting. Needs to be more consistent in his aggressiveness.

[srhcan]

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

The reality is the opposite of what you just said.

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He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He just had yet another good game and people like you continue to eat crow.

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He had 19/12/6/3 on 8-14 shooting with zero turnovers.

Odd comment to make.

But what do you expect with some people on here.

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

[Madhouse]

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

The reality is the opposite of what you just said.

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He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He just had yet another good game and people like you continue to eat crow.

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He had 19/12/6/3 on 8-14 shooting with zero turnovers.

Odd comment to make.

But what do you expect with some people on here.

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

Barnes was -2, his team lost by 8.

Mobley was -3 and his team won by 8.

Barnes impacted the game more than Mobley.

Just tell us you are a troll and we can move on.

[digitalallstar]

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

The reality is the opposite of what you just said.

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He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He just had yet another good game and people like you continue to eat crow.

He is not as good as initially thought based on his earlier games performances

He had 19/12/6/3 on 8-14 shooting with zero turnovers.

Odd comment to make.

But what do you expect with some people on here.

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

Yeah, we just look at numbers. You know the 4 of us so well.

He's exceeding expectations which were zero coming into the season. Show me a post where people expected him to be in contention for rookie of the year in November.

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[Raps in 4]

Bad news, Mobley outplayed him.

Good news, he dropped 19/12/6 on 57% shooting. Needs to be more consistent in his aggressiveness.

Mobley outplayed him?

Scottie: 19/12/6 on 8/14 shooting, -2

Mobley: 20/17/4 on 9/15 shooting, -3

They had virtually identical impact tonight. You could even argue that Scottie outplayed him considering Mobley's team won yet he finished negative.

[srhcan]

The reality is the opposite of what you just said.

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He just had yet another good game and people like you continue to eat crow.

He had 19/12/6/3 on 8-14 shooting with zero turnovers.

Odd comment to make.

But what do you expect with some people on here.

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

Yeah, we just look at numbers. You know the 4 of us so well.

He's exceeding expectations which were zero coming into the season. Show me a post where people expected him to be in contention for rookie of the year in November.

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Really you had 0 expectations from a #4 lottery pick? Did you recently start watching NBA?

[digitalallstar]

Show me anyone's expectations when we drafted him. I'll wait.

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[srhcan]

The reality is the opposite of what you just said.

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He just had yet another good game and people like you continue to eat crow.

He had 19/12/6/3 on 8-14 shooting with zero turnovers.

Odd comment to make.

But what do you expect with some people on here.

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

Barnes was -2, his team lost by 8.

Mobley was -3 and his team won by 8.

Barnes impacted the game more than Mobley.

Just tell us you are a troll and we can move on.

Did you even watch the game? Someone who is only going by looking at the stats will say that Mobley's impact was worst than Barnes

[Raps in 4]

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

Yeah, we just look at numbers. You know the 4 of us so well.

He's exceeding expectations which were zero coming into the season. Show me a post where people expected him to be in contention for rookie of the year in November.

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Really you had 0 expectations from a #4 lottery pick? Did you recently start watching NBA?

He was extremely underwhelming in college and didn't show a fraction of the offensive skills he's been showing at the NBA level. Good on Masai and co. for being able to see the potential. But 90% of this board, myself included, thought he had a Draymond Green ceiling offensively.

[Scottie4Bro]

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

Barnes was -2, his team lost by 8.

Mobley was -3 and his team won by 8.

Barnes impacted the game more than Mobley.

Just tell us you are a troll and we can move on.

Did you even watch the game? Someone who is only going by looking at the stats will say that Mobley's impact was worst than Barnes

So do you have any actual arguments of your own as to why Barnes was not good tonight aside from "dude just like watch the tv or something"?

[Raps in 4]

You guys are just looking at the numbers and feeing good about them (and they are good numbers no doubt) but what about the impact on the game? You have to look at the bigger picture. Although Mobley and Barnes have similar numbers, but Mobley impacted the game a lot more than Barnes. Barnes numbers have to impact the game.

Barnes was -2, his team lost by 8.

Mobley was -3 and his team won by 8.

Barnes impacted the game more than Mobley.

Just tell us you are a troll and we can move on.

Did you even watch the game? Someone who is only going by looking at the stats will say that Mobley's impact was worst than Barnes

What did Mobley do that made his impact greater? Please share with us.

[HumbleRen]

Bad news, Mobley outplayed him.

Good news, he dropped 19/12/6 on 57% shooting. Needs to be more consistent in his aggressiveness.

Mobley outplayed him?

Scottie: 19/12/6 on 8/14 shooting, -2

Mobley: 20/17/4 on 9/15 shooting, -3

They had virtually identical impact tonight. You could even argue that Scottie outplayed him considering Mobley's team won yet he finished negative.

Tbh and honestly, Scottie would of dropped 30 on Birch bum ass if he was guarding him.