We really finna not talk about Lebron’s 56 peice on the Warriors?

[Ice Trae]

LeFiftysixpoints

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Considering the man’s age it might be a top 3 of all time regular season performance

just doesnt impress me. he's not playing defense and stat padding.

Kobe dropped 60 in his final game and he was older than lebron is now. MJ and others have done similar while the same or older.

i just cant respect a guy who i see not playing defense in order to chase records for his own ego.

[GregOden]

Considering the Warriors have the 2nd worst record in the league in their last 10 (2-8), second only to the Knicks (1-9), and the Knicks only win in that period was against the Warriors? I’d say it would be more impressive if he faced a better team.

[CIN-C-STAR]

For those saying "Lebron played no Defense" & therefore suggest his performance isn't that impressive.

Can someone please give some evidence for this? I am not arguing his Defense is Elite anymore.

Outside of you posting a couple of examples of him resting (reality check a lot of your fav players do this) is there any statistical evidence?

Happy to be proven wrong, but I imagine the data will show him a little above average at worse, and for the Offensive Load he carries, that is more than adequate at 37, or at any age.

To my eye test he takes more plays off than any NBA player I can remember.
I wish I had data but I don't. There should be Sport Tracking data that shows how much ground players travel per game on average, so it would be interesting to see, but I don't know where to get view that info.
I will also say, though, that he is very smart about it. All the greats learn some economy of movement as they age and have to conserve energy. Fans usually applaud the guy who runs in and tries to contest a dunk that he doesn't get to, because hey at least he hustled, but if you already know you can't get there the best play is actually to set up for the rebound or inbounds pass and not waste the energy or risk a foul.
I'm sure he misses some rotations here and there and he's clearly not the defender he was when he was younger, but overall he picks his spots very well so him resting on defense doesn't have as big of a negative impact as you'd expect, again, to my eye test.
Hopefully someone can chime in with some data.

[Pennebaker]

We make a thread (especially negative ones) about every little thing 37 year old Lebron does but he just dropped a nba season high of 56 points in a close game against the Warriors and its crickets. Your favorite player was not and will not be dropping 56 at 37. Discuss.

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Well you know the haters would rather just not talk about it because they want him to be on his way out, not still in his prime.

What Bron is doing... we simply have never seen it before. He's 37 averaging 29.4 points per game, scoring 56, dunking, finishing oops, blocking shots, deep threes, amazing dimes. He looks like a prime player. The guy can play at a high level well into his 40s. This is problematic for his haters.

[Badlands]

Considering the man’s age it might be a top 3 of all time regular season performance

just doesnt impress me. he's not playing defense and stat padding.

Kobe dropped 60 in his final game and he was older than lebron is now. MJ and others have done similar while the same or older.

i just cant respect a guy who i see not playing defense in order to chase records for his own ego.

Did you actually watch the game? He definitely takes plays off, but he played very good defense for much of the game.

No, Kobe and MJ really didn't have comparably impressive games at his age. Kobe's 60 in his last game was on an insane 50 shots (LeBron's career high is 36) and he was barely being defended for a lot of the game (granted, he was hitting tough shots at the end when he was being defended). MJ's only 50+ game at 37+ was 51 points on 38 shots (after scoring 6 points on 2-10 shooting the previous game). It was still a great game, but it was 5 fewer points on 7 more shots than LeBron's game last night.

[Pennebaker]

Considering the man’s age it might be a top 3 of all time regular season performance

just doesnt impress me. he's not playing defense and stat padding.

Kobe dropped 60 in his final game and he was older than lebron is now. MJ and others have done similar while the same or older.

i just cant respect a guy who i see not playing defense in order to chase records for his own ego.

- KOBE dropped 60 PTS ON 50 SHOTS, my dude.
- Bean shot 44% forcing up shot after shot just to get to 60.
- 37 year old Kobe only averaged 17 points per game.

- BRON scored 56 PTS ON 31 SHOTS (he shot 61%).
- 37 year old Bron is averaging 29.4 points per game.

- The most JORDAN scored after the age of 35 is 51 PTS ON 38 SHOTS.

Winner: LEBRON

Frank Vogel on LeBron's defense this season:

Whether he’s guarding the five or if he’s on the backside at the 3 or 4 or whatever, his voice has been critical to the defenses that we’ve had. He’s the middle linebacker. He’s the best communicator. He’s the best anticipator. Anybody who wants to question what he’s doing on the defensive side of the ball, he’s critical to everything we do defensively.

[Jables]

Considering the man’s age it might be a top 3 of all time regular season performance

just doesnt impress me. he's not playing defense and stat padding.

Kobe dropped 60 in his final game and he was older than lebron is now. MJ and others have done similar while the same or older.

i just cant respect a guy who i see not playing defense in order to chase records for his own ego.

- KOBE dropped 60 PTS ON 50 SHOTS, my dude.
- Bean shot 44% forcing up shot after shot just to get to 60.
- 37 year old Kobe only averaged 17 points per game.

- BRON scored 56 PTS ON 31 SHOTS (he shot 61%).
- 37 year old Bron is averaging 29.4 points per game.

- The most JORDAN scored after the age of 35 is 51 PTS ON 38 SHOTS.

Winner: LEBRON

Frank Vogel on LeBron's defense this season:

Whether he’s guarding the five or if he’s on the backside at the 3 or 4 or whatever, his voice has been critical to the defenses that we’ve had. He’s the middle linebacker. He’s the best communicator. He’s the best anticipator. Anybody who wants to question what he’s doing on the defensive side of the ball, he’s critical to everything we do defensively.

Settle down dude, you're comparing a 6'10 dude built like a brick shithouse to guys shooting jumpers on bad knees that were retired in all but name for years. And if he's critical to their defense, that explains a lot of things.

It was a great game, let's not question that. It'll be in the highlight reel when he retires.

[aboveAverage]

LeBron is still likely the GOAT, toss up with MJ. To have this kind of game at 37 years old is incredible.

That being said, I wish LeBron would transition into a more complementary role and stop trying to be a star. He could play another 5-6 great seasons as a role player or 6th man.

[foreigngrammar]

Can someone finna tell me what "finna" even means?

That Idiocracy was right.
Smart people aren't breeding as quick as stupid people, so the stupid are gaining a larger majority by the day. As a consequence, language has been changing.

It means 'fixing to', a term virtually no one ever used anyway. So obviously when you see it shoe-horned into thread titles it's just some young person trying to sound cool by using the new buzz word they recently learned.

I have no problem with them putting it on twitter or something, but this is a forum, a proper old school internet forum.... we speaks the English.

It's been used extensively in the south. It's the equivalent of "going to", which only makes sense if you consider the intended state as a location. In this case, "fixing" can be thought of as preparing oneself or alternatively aiming at the goal. "Going to" becomes gonna, which I'm sure you've used extensively in your life.

Any other old people diatribes? Are you against contractions as well?

I can already envision your Twitter timeline if you're talking about smart people not breeding. You also have no idea how language works.

Weil i‘m sure „gonna“ was working just fine without sounding ridiculous.
But whatever

[Lalouie]

i was finna not post, because i finna never do about if lebron finna anything.
do posters finna post by finna using finna all the time? like is finna just finna be for posting, or are peope finna talk like this in real life

[Luke Skyowner]

Finna..

..there i did it. First time in my life. Not sure how to build other words around it but there you go

finna-contraction-going to; intending to; fixing to.

“Finna” means “gonna” for the most part. And for the longest time I naively thought finna referred to the Finals. Totally not, lol.

I though it meant Finnish people lol. But reading it in context it was clear that it did not

[Luke Skyowner]

Weil i‘m sure „gonna“ was working just fine without sounding ridiculous.
But whatever

Well i‘m sure „gonna“ was working just finne without sounding ridiculous.

there fixed it for you

[Letsgokings]

I personally think Finna is stupid as hell but if people really want to use it whatever I don't care but just know if you are going to use a word like "finna" in your subject line you are already derailing your thread.

[chitownsports4ever]

Nice game for Lebron but I don't understand what all the hoopla is about 50+ pts on 31 shot at home .

Jamal Crawford went TO Dallas at 39 yrs old and dropped 51 in a packed house for Dirks last home game


If you gave Melo 30 shots would he get 50 ?

It seems to me this game is being overblown because of the Lakers struggles and lebron needs some positive news on the backend of a disappointing season

[NbaAllDay]

Nice game for Lebron but I don't understand what all the hoopla is about 50+ pts on 31 shot at home .

Jamal Crawford went TO Dallas at 39 yrs old and dropped 51 in a packed house for Dirks last home game


If you gave Melo 30 shots would he get 50 ?

It seems to me this game is being overblown because of the Lakers struggles and lebron needs some positive news on the backend of a disappointing season

The hoopla is to retort the stick people are giving the Lakers and the recent posts around him giving up/stat padding. This should be obvious enough.

This is a weird comment though because he shot 56 points on something like 75% TS which is insanely.efficient. You sight 1 dude who was close (but not as impressive overall) who did something similar at age 37+ then reduce the performance to "50+ points on 31 shots at home" as nothing special.

Fun fact for you: Melo has attempted 30+ shots 25 times in his career. Guess how many times he shot over 50? Once. His next highest was 45 points.

Big yikes

[Scottie4Bro]

We really needed another Lebron fellating thread.

Lebron fans are so insecure. Yes yes, he's GOAT and all that, etc. etc.

[AMW27]

Very efficient too.

I think people judging Lebron as if he is supposed to be in his prime have a big agenda against him. He is 37yo! Out of his prime. Every year he's an elite player should be seen as a huge positive for his legacy.

He's probably having his best year as a Laker.

If he's an elite player, MVP calibur player, to me that means he is still in his prime.

[chitownsports4ever]

Nice game for Lebron but I don't understand what all the hoopla is about 50+ pts on 31 shot at home .

Jamal Crawford went TO Dallas at 39 yrs old and dropped 51 in a packed house for Dirks last home game


If you gave Melo 30 shots would he get 50 ?

It seems to me this game is being overblown because of the Lakers struggles and lebron needs some positive news on the backend of a disappointing season

The hoopla is to retort the stick people are giving the Lakers and the recent posts around him giving up/stat padding. This should be obvious enough.

This is a weird comment though because he shot 56 points on something like 75% TS which is insanely.efficient. You sight 1 dude who was close (but not as impressive overall) who did something similar at age 37+ then reduce the performance to "50+ points on 31 shots at home" as nothing special.

Fun fact for you: Melo has attempted 30+ shots 25 times in his career. Guess how many times he shot over 50? Once. His next highest was 45 points.

Big yikes

Actually I started out by saying it was a nice game

The truth is he has been stat padding but it was a nice game regardless

I cited someone who was older and who did it on the ROAD

Lebron dropping 51 @ Mia a couple of years ago was more impressive to me

We have had 11 50 pt game this year so far and only 3 have been road games . Its nice but the good players go off at home all the time and for Lebron he hit 6 threes which he basically does 4-5 times a year.

[NbaAllDay]

Nice game for Lebron but I don't understand what all the hoopla is about 50+ pts on 31 shot at home .

Jamal Crawford went TO Dallas at 39 yrs old and dropped 51 in a packed house for Dirks last home game


If you gave Melo 30 shots would he get 50 ?

It seems to me this game is being overblown because of the Lakers struggles and lebron needs some positive news on the backend of a disappointing season

The hoopla is to retort the stick people are giving the Lakers and the recent posts around him giving up/stat padding. This should be obvious enough.

This is a weird comment though because he shot 56 points on something like 75% TS which is insanely.efficient. You sight 1 dude who was close (but not as impressive overall) who did something similar at age 37+ then reduce the performance to "50+ points on 31 shots at home" as nothing special.

Fun fact for you: Melo has attempted 30+ shots 25 times in his career. Guess how many times he shot over 50? Once. His next highest was 45 points.

Big yikes

Actually I started out by saying it was a nice game

The truth is he has been stat padding but it was a nice game regardless

I cited someone who was older and who did it on the ROAD

Lebron dropping 51 @ Mia a couple of years ago was more impressive to me

We have had 11 50 pt game this year so far and only 3 have been road games . Its nice but the good players go off at home all the time and for Lebron he hit 6 threes which he basically does 4-5 times a year.

Lebrons stats are virtually identical road v home. It really has 0 relevance at all to how impressive it is or isnt. Less experienced players go off at home more, it's really past making amy different with ATG's

I'd love to see some data on this stat padding. It.keeps getting throw around but no one has actually verified it outside of the mythical 'eye test'. Is he suppose to give up or try less or something?

People justify things on insane levels when it comes to Lebron.

Wondering if your mod account was hacked at this point.