Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks

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Things I didn't see coming for 1000.

[JayMKE]

2nd round pick should be no brainer if that's available, even if you believe in Love as a starter you don't draft a guy in the 1st round to sit them for 5 years and that's some pretty good value still for a guy who won't ever start a game for you.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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If that's on the table Love should be off this team by sunset.

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If this is true, then absolutely. I don't know if I'd buy multiple teams unloading a 2nd rounder for him, but all you need is one.

I'm also skeptical but I've heard Mitch Trubisky is going to have a decent FA market so I guess that tells the tail of current QB desperation out there right now.

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[MikeIsGood]

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If that's on the table Love should be off this team by sunset.

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If this is true, then absolutely. I don't know if I'd buy multiple teams unloading a 2nd rounder for him, but all you need is one.

My only thought here is that it's such a bad class for QBs this year, that maybe you can get someone to bite. I was thinking about it, but didn't want to jinx us.

ETA: I would happily take a 3rd. If we can't get a 3rd, I think I'd hold.

[zmanishere11]

On Love it all depends on the structure of Rodgers deal and what he's actually thinking. It may just be a 2 year deal - in that case you probably hang onto Love at least a year and trade him next off-season if at all

[VooDoo7]

Imagine being a fan of a team and being upset that your team is bringing back their Hall of Fame QB, who's coming off BACK-TO-BACK MVP seasons. Unbelievable.

Like it or not, if anybody is worth that money, it's him. And with the salary cap going up, it's just a matter of time before other QB's pass that deal up.

We're still contenders for the foreseeable future. Had Rodgers left, I doubt that'd be the case.

[humanrefutation]

I soured on Rodgers last year, and this is obviously a ton of money to commit to him. But, there's a part of me that's taking joy in sticking it to the Broncos.

Perhaps that joy would have been greater had we acquired, say, Jerry Jeudy, Bradley Chubb, and 2 FRP for him, though.

[JimmyTheKid]

It actually had nothing to do with Jordan Love. My disdain would have been the same if the Packers selected any one of the 20 QB's picked after him. Was all about the time frame. Which obviously made zero sense. But sure, since Love could be a superior backup to Seneca Wallace, I guess one could argue it was still the right move. That would sure be a take.

Dude, you literally kept advocating that the Packers should trade Love for whatever as an admission of guilt by the front office. It had everything to do with Jordan Love in the eyes of the unflinching Rodgers supporters.

I highly doubt anyone advocated this for any purpose other than acquiring talent that would play immediately. To attribute anything personal to this is probably a gross mischaracterization of Rodgers supporters.

This is not difficult to understand. And I think he knows what he's doing here. I'll try one more time though. Lets just say hypothetically Love had already been picked or wasn't even on the Packers' radar to begin with. Instead, they really liked the next QB drafted to trade up and select. I don't even know or care which QB went next. It doesn't matter. I would have advocated trading that guy the same as I've advocated to move on from Love. Why? Because time frame, again. Nothing to do with "victory laps" and everything to do with common f***ing sense.

[JimmyTheKid]

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If that's on the table Love should be off this team by sunset.

Bring back Bortles as the backup.

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I find that very very very difficult to believe but yeah you pull the trigger so fast on any 2nd.

[agiaco]

Well, the next few years feels a lot less exciting now.

Uhh, what?

[agiaco]

For me, the only way this is acceptable is with a SB win. Otherwise, an epic mistake

Wouldn't call it a potentially epic mistake. Their chances of being a Super Bowl contender under Jordan Love next season was pretty remote.

And frankly it's now his legacy not ours. i.e. if he can't win a SB in the next two years, its going to massively damage his legacy. We're going to get a couple 12-win seasons out of it most likely if he stays healthy.

The chances of being a SB contender within the next four years with any QB is pretty remote.

[ReginaldDwight]

Now can this dude not stare down guys in big games? He wasnt good in the playoffs at all, I barely care about watching them dominate the worst division in the league then getting the playoffs and looking liek a different guy. Anything other than another Bowl win is a fail for Rodgers and will lower him on the legacy totem pole.

[JimmyTheKid]

Well, the next few years feels a lot less exciting now.

Uhh, what?

Some sports fans prefer the drama of an offseason, trade deadline, or TMZ fodder to on-field/court excellence. Probably wasn't always the case but social media has really done a number on us humans in a variety of ways.

[VooDoo7]

Wouldn't call it a potentially epic mistake. Their chances of being a Super Bowl contender under Jordan Love next season was pretty remote.

And frankly it's now his legacy not ours. i.e. if he can't win a SB in the next two years, its going to massively damage his legacy. We're going to get a couple 12-win seasons out of it most likely if he stays healthy.

The flip side of a huge extension for Rodgers is getting multiple first round picks, maybe some young talent in addition, while also being able to retain your entire defense.

I get what you're saying. But I bet it'd be hard to convince FA's (ours or others) to sign here with Rodgers gone.

[LUKE23]

I get what you're saying. But I bet it'd be hard to convince FA's (ours or others) to sign here with Rodgers gone.

I feel like FA is a "fill in the gaps" tool, not a "build the core of your team" tool. The draft and good cap management is how contending teams are built. Now - I do feel Gute has been pretty good in the draft especially in the earlier rounds.

I understand why they kept AR. I just have doubts about the amount, and what it does to the rest of our team, and I also have doubts about Rodgers' ability to perform in the playoffs. I honestly don't care what he does in the regular season anymore, we need to see the same elite level play in the playoffs.

If they win another SB, it's the right move. If they don't, it wasn't. It's really that simple.

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[raysbookclub]

My asking price for Love would be a 1st rounder. If multiple teams are willing to give a 2nd rounder, maybe that makes one of those teams up their offer. I wouldn't be content with a 2nd rounder. Maybe I'd be ok with 2 2nd rounders. GB needs a backup QB just in case, and every win matters with our stakes.

[GBPackers47]

This should be studied as one of the greatest negotiations in sports history from the player/agent side.

Damn well played by Rodgers.

It turns out a back to back MVP has a lot of leverage. Who knew?

I mean if you ignore the fact that Rodgers started this negotiation before he even won the 1st one of the back-to-back then yeah, it’s painfully obvious.

But before that first MVP, every talking head and fan said Rodgers is done. It’s not time to move on just yet, but the end is near. The franchise then doubled down on that take by trading up for Love in the first round. Meanwhile, Rodgers is deadass saying “I’m not done” “I want to play into my 40s” “I want to retire a Packer.” At that time, from Rodgers perspective, those goals ALL happening are looking grim at best.

I say best in sports history because Rodgers HAD to win back-to-back MVPs for this entire thing to play out. He didn’t just sleepwalk into the last 2 seasons and happen to be the best player in the league. Everyone else didn’t collectively just get worse while he stayed the same.

A 38 year old quarterback just got paid $200 million, from the same GM that traded up for his replacement just 2 years ago, in a league where market altering deals are reserved for guys 10 years younger.

Rodgers now has everything he wants. Highest paid player in football. Playing into his 40s. And, most likely, retiring a Packer.

I say it should be studied because you see guys fail in negotiations every single year by “betting on themselves” (Dennis Schroeder being the most recent laughing stock of the sports world).

When you bet on yourself, you HAVE to deliver.

[ReasonablySober]

I'm bummed.