Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks

raysbookclub · Post #841 » by **raysbookclub** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:18 pm

Man that package Broncos sent to Seattle… would love GB to have those two firsts and those two seconds and the other pick swap plus Noah Fant, plus whatever other player they would have given I place of Drew Lock. Maybe they would’ve given up Surtain or Chubb for AR too.

What I will be interested in going forward is seeing if Lock can develop in Seattle. Gute was high on him. How good of QB evaluator is he?

LUKE23 · Post #842 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:18 pm

One of the bright sides of this deal is just how weak the NFC is at QB. I mean, you just had Brady and Wilson leave the conference when the AFC was already better at QB. Now we have, Stafford, Prescott, Cousins? I'm not a believer in Kyler Murray at all. Goff, Fields, Hurts, Jones, Garapolo, Winston, etc.

Post #843 » by **humanrefutation** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:20 pm

Read on Twitter

Hmm, is he planning to explore FA after this season? If so, trade him now.

Post #844 » by **humanrefutation** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:28 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #845 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:29 pm

If all of this ends up being the Packers simply getting one more year AND he's allowed to be a FA next season? I can't imagine Gute and Murphy being that shortsighted, but if they are they need to be fired immediately.

Post #846 » by **humanrefutation** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:30 pm

I don't think they could tag Adams without restructuring Rodgers, though.

LUKE23 · Post #847 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:36 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:If all of this ends up being the Packers simply getting one more year AND he's allowed to be a FA next season? I can't imagine Gute and Murphy being that shortsighted, but if they are they need to be fired immediately.

Yes, that would be grounds for termination.

WRau1 · Post #848 » by **WRau1** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:38 pm

Profound23 wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:Some of y'all would really rather become a 7-10 team for the foreseeable future than bring back the mvp. Weirdo behavior.

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There is no guarantee we aren't 7-10 even with Rodgers. Fields could be a good QB, with 1 year of growth the Bears can be good. Vikings have some weapons and last I heard were considering trading for Watson. We have a tough schedule and are going to lose some key players.

I guess anything is possible but I'd assume that there's a damn near 100% chance we are better than 7-10 w/ a healthy Rodgers.

Post #849 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:48 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:If all of this ends up being the Packers simply getting one more year AND he's allowed to be a FA next season? I can't imagine Gute and Murphy being that shortsighted, but if they are they need to be fired immediately.

Yes, that would be grounds for termination.

Rodgers is under contract for two more seasons. If he doesn't sign an extension (which he pretty much has to in order to bring back Adams) we go into the next off season the same as this one. Come back, trade, or retire.

Isocleas2 · Post #850 » by **Isocleas2** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:04 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:If all of this ends up being the Packers simply getting one more year AND he's allowed to be a FA next season? I can't imagine Gute and Murphy being that shortsighted, but if they are they need to be fired immediately.

Yes, that would be grounds for termination.

Rodgers is under contract for two more seasons. If he doesn't sign an extension (which he pretty much has to in order to bring back Adams) we go into the next off season the same as this one. Come back, trade, or retire.

I believe they only have him for one more year, they shaved off the 2nd year when they negotiated his return last offseason.

Post #851 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:04 pm

Isocleas2 wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:
Yes, that would be grounds for termination.

Rodgers is under contract for two more seasons. If he doesn't sign an extension (which he pretty much has to in order to bring back Adams) we go into the next off season the same as this one. Come back, trade, or retire.

I believe they only have him for one more year, they shaved off the 2nd year when they negotiated his return last offseason.

Yup.

Profound23 · Post #852 » by **Profound23** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:07 pm

In many contracts, a major signing bonus ties the player to the team, unless the players is willing to pay back a large chunk of unearned compensation. In the Rodgers deal, it’s believed that the final structure may allow him to easily retire, whenever he wants.

If that is true....that is crazy as sh**. Dude could retire the next day and keep all of his signing bonus.

Isocleas2 · Post #853 » by **Isocleas2** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:09 pm

Profound23 wrote:
In many contracts, a major signing bonus ties the player to the team, unless the players is willing to pay back a large chunk of unearned compensation. In the Rodgers deal, it’s believed that the final structure may allow him to easily retire, whenever he wants.

If that is true....that is crazy as sh**. Dude could retire the next day and keep all of his signing bonus.

Yup it gives him alot of leverage if he wants to pull the Favre retire/unretire shtick.

Post #854 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:19 pm

True, technically he has a 2023 contract but it automatically voids a week before the 2023 league year begins. I forgot about that.

Regardless I don't see a scenario where they bring back Rodgers with his $46 million 2022 cap hit and Adams with ~$20 million tag cap hit.

RubberSoul · Post #855 » by **RubberSoul** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:24 pm

Asinine to not take the haul of picks and players and try to build around Love. If Love sucks take a QB high in a good QB class of 23. At some point in the near future he will sharply decline physically and his play will suffer. It already has to some extent as he’s not very mobile anymore. Our roster will be worse next year we will not be winning a super bowl after all the cuts are made. Paying Rodgers, Adams, Bak 1/2 the cap is insane.

This will protect Guty’s job though and as a fellow human with a job I understand why he did this. Looking forward to some more division titles.

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Ayt · Post #856 » by **Ayt** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:47 pm

How are people coming up the idea that the Packers have no chance at winning a Super Bowl? Would you really be that shocked if they did?

Ron Swanson · Post #857 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:54 pm

I think there's valid sides to both arguments. To me it was the right move to bring Rodgers back, fully knowing it could all blow up and we're stuck with the bill for the next 3-years. Fully understand the desire to unload him for a king's ransom of picks and look toward the future, but I've also maintained that you can rebuild quickly in the NFL and high draft capital isn't as important as good scouting.

I just never wanna hear this absolute bull **** "they didn't go ALL IN" complaint ever again. This is now Year 4 of "All-in", and if it doesn't yield a Super Bowl title within the lifetime of Aaron's contract, then those same people better be ready to eat a heaping pile of crow and admit that the strategy was an abject failure.

PintSizedBox10 · Post #858 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 10:33 pm

Or maybe the Packers approach to going "All-in" just sucked? Couldn't ever be the FO's fault though. Not possible in Packerland.

LUKE23 · Post #859 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 10:41 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:Or maybe the Packers approach to going "All-in" just sucked? Couldn't ever be the FO's fault though. Not possible in Packerland.

Outside of their handling of the special teams coaching move and situation (which obviously was a big factor in the final game), I fail to see how they didn't put together a SB-worthy roster.

I mean, they had back to back MVP, arguably the best WR in the game, an insanely productive offensive line despite the most OL injuries in the NFL, and their D was at worst above average, at best elite against the Niners.

I would argue the overall roster building was sound, the execution was not. And if you go back and look at AR's box score in the game they lost, then you have to point a lot of fingers in his direction. I realize we gave up a TD on a blocked punt, but we still only needed 14 points to win the game.

I was all aboard team Rodgers until that game. He played poorly, he missed open guys, and really, he looked like he couldn't care less while doing it. Add that to all the drama all season long, and the fact we could have gotten a pretty hefty trade package, and it really just starts to tilt the other way.

Now, it's completely SB or bust, again. And execution will need to be even better since their margin of error financially is now zero.

Dennis Reynolds · Post #860 » by **Dennis Reynolds** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 10:45 pm

Hope all this means they're finally ready to go all in.