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Post#121 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:53 am

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3pt_chucker wrote:Great game tonight. With KD and KAI playing, 120+ pts are going to be on the menu.

The 2nd half was ugly but that's because KD sucked and got in his head, which happens on occasion with him.

Tighter rotation from Nash tonight with good games from everyone expect James Johnson who I really think is a negative.


I would sit Johnson and play Edwards or Blake.

It doesn't seem like we're cutting anybody else, so Edwards will not be playoff eligible. Given that, we're not going to give him any non-garbage time, because the playoff rotation needs as much time as possible together.
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Post#122 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:20 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Well, KD and Kyrie have pretty much shared my thoughts about Harden. I can't blame him if he thinks Philly is a better shot especially with Kyrie is part time.

It is what it is. No hard feelings. This situation isn't ideal right now.


If Harden wanted to leave he could do it in the off season.

Demanding a trade and quitting was absolutely unacceptable. And can never be defended.

He **** us over so badly. All he had to do was play out the season.
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Post#123 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:22 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:Great game tonight. With KD and KAI playing, 120+ pts are going to be on the menu.

The 2nd half was ugly but that's because KD sucked and got in his head, which happens on occasion with him.

Tighter rotation from Nash tonight with good games from everyone expect James Johnson who I really think is a negative.


I would sit Johnson and play Edwards or Blake.

It doesn't seem like we're cutting anybody else, so Edwards will not be playoff eligible. Given that, we're not going to give him any non-garbage time, because the playoff rotation needs as much time as possible together.


Edwards can't be trusted in the playoffs.

I don't like Johnson but hes a savvy vet that can give us minutes here and there.

I wish we played Blake more. Seemed like his shooting was improving.
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Post#124 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:29 am

Let's not get too excited... this team nearly blew a 31 pt lead...

Lack of offense in sets or scheme shows its face again... horrendous recognition from sidelines to pull slackers off the court. Like why let Charlotte go on a 12-0 run?

Hopefully Ben cam be someone to lead us to better ball movement
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Post#125 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:24 am

GTR11 wrote:Nic off dog house I see.


not really. LMA was out.
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Post#126 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:31 am

TheNetsFan wrote:I'm sure Nash is afraid of KD, but when he's cold and frustrated give him a blow and calm him down. Old school coaches would immediately pull a guy after a technical.


It is absurd. a complete lack of awareness or the know-how to get your player out of a funk... let this sink in:

6 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter. Kyrie hits back to back threes, and scored on 3 of the nets last 4 possessions, giving the Nets a 20 point lead. The Nets get a stop, there is no stoppage of play...

Nash calls a timeout, SUBS KYRIE OUT.

2 minutes later, at the 4 minute mark, he SUBS KYRIE BACK IN.

An absolutely flamethrowing kyrie is taken out, in the middle of going on a personal 8-0 run. like nash literally TRIED to ice kyrie irving and cool him off.

Nash is so dumb that he inadvertently is icing off his own hot player, while leaving his dying players on the sinking ship to die.

its beyond awful
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Post#127 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:39 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Well, KD and Kyrie have pretty much shared my thoughts about Harden. I can't blame him if he thinks Philly is a better shot especially with Kyrie is part time.

It is what it is. No hard feelings. This situation isn't ideal right now.


If Harden wanted to leave he could do it in the off season.

Demanding a trade and quitting was absolutely unacceptable. And can never be defended.

He **** us over so badly. All he had to do was play out the season.


Yup. I gave him the benefit that he was injured and not quitting, but it was confirmed he quit on the team and flying to vegas between games during a 10 game losing streak.

to me thats worse then Kidds migraines, anything deron did, and as bad as it gets in Nets NBA history. if you want out fine. tell your agent to go to work. but your on a max deal, you play until your moved. period. He also probably cost us 1-2 assets by quitting lowering his value.
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Post#128 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:54 am

Huge Huge HUGE win. This was the biggest game left on our schedule. we avoided losing the tiebreaker and are now up 1 in the standings. My thoughts....

1) I've said it and said it again. Kevin Durant can NOT handle a double team and im still shocked teams dont exclusively double him every time he touches it. there is enough film on it now. his turnover percentage on double teams has to be among the worst in the league. even if he doesnt turn it over, its a scary pass. even if you surround him with shooters, the odds have to say doubling him makes sense. My fear is a good coach knows this and its exploited in the playoffs. KD needs to seriously fix this.

2) Steve Nash did his best to ice kyrie irving. it is infuriating how bad our coaching is. Kyrie hits his second straight 3 giving him 20 points on the night. he is on fire. we get a stop, nash calls timeout to sub kyrie out of the game with 6 to go in the 2nd quarter, only to bring him back 2 minutes later. like legit the only thing that could possible do is cool kyrie off. he hadnt played a ton, so it was some minutes thing, especially since he came back 2 minutes later. like hey moron, when your superstar is on fire in a zone give him the ball dont send him to the bench. Kyrie DID NOT SCORE AGAIN in the first half.

3) I said last game, LMA has given us good minutes. he has but unreal as a jumpshooter and not been a liability in other areas... but Claxton should be the backup to drummond. LMA just isnt as good a fit. Our offense doesnt need more mid range jumpers. we need switchability, shot blocking, and someone who can roll to the rim.

4) Nash not taking KD out in the middle of like a 6 possesion melton of turnovers, bricks while triple teamed and a technical is a criminal offense. if you cant coach to save your life you need to at least manage your stars. it is beyond me why steve nash and this staff is still here.

5) Kyrie was unreal. 50 points is the eye popping number, but to me the 19 FGA is what stands out more. 50 points on 19 shots is like Wilt Chaimberlain vs 6'2" white plumbers type efficiency... Yi Jianlian vs. a chair type efficiency. God mode stuff. Few scorers are as good when locked in. This is why you dont trade kyrie. even if you get like beal or something.... in a huge game Kyrie is going to come to play and he is going to take your lunch. Kyrie is a ceiling raiser. he plays big in big games and when he plays well few if any can match him point for point. Some guys like Beal or Lillard are great scorers.... but kyrie is in that class of guys who even elite defenders cant stop. thats huge in the playoffs.

6) We need what Ben brings bad. Ben is a run stopper. you can put him on Tatum or LaMello and make them take a tough shot in the middle of a 10-0 run to help stop the bleeding. He is long enough to go under screens and still close out threes and big/agile enough to switch everything. Bruce Brown is starting for us, Ben taking his spot doesnt change our spacing since no one respects browns jumper. Ben's D is huge. i hope he is back after philly. we need him for the stretch run.

6) Drummond was low key important. they are an awful rebounding team and he got a bunch of offensive rebounds. in the past, we would not have taken advantage of their lack of size. He needs to play bigger within 3 feet thought. he is like sharpe he gets blocked alot for a big dude. pump fake and dunk. period.

If we can beat philly we have 4 very winnable games after that. every game is huge at this point.
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Post#129 » by NetsJets » Wed Mar 9, 2022 7:06 am

Thank goodness we built up a big lead otherwise this would’ve been a loss. Thank goodness for Kyrie Irving because he hit some big shots when Charlotte was making their push. Big win tonight.
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Post#130 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 7:12 am

Kyrie's game tonight was the most efficient 50 point game.... EVER.

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Post#131 » by jirrit » Wed Mar 9, 2022 7:28 am

Prokorov wrote:tell your agent to go to work. but your on a max deal, you play until your moved. period. He also probably cost us 1-2 assets by quitting lowering his value.

Double standards Prokorov in full force. Excusing Kyrie for everything he did but Harden couldnt fly to Vegas. He was even available to play lol. Unreal.
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Post#132 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 7:55 am

jirrit wrote:
Prokorov wrote:tell your agent to go to work. but your on a max deal, you play until your moved. period. He also probably cost us 1-2 assets by quitting lowering his value.

Double standards Prokorov in full force. Excusing Kyrie for everything he did but Harden couldnt fly to Vegas. He was even available to play lol. Unreal.


Kyrie actually wanted to play and showed up to play and goes all out for this team on the court. his personal choices and state mandates put him in a no-win situation.

Harden has no excuse. he quit on this team, and played games hungover and literally walking on defense, THROWING games we desperatly needed to win. he refused to get in shape and refused to play hard to force a trade.

But i wouldnt expect a racist boston fan to understand that
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Post#133 » by GTR11 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 10:54 am

Prokorov wrote:Huge Huge HUGE win. This was the biggest game left on our schedule. we avoided losing the tiebreaker and are now up 1 in the standings. My thoughts....

1) I've said it and said it again. Kevin Durant can NOT handle a double team and im still shocked teams dont exclusively double him every time he touches it. there is enough film on it now. his turnover percentage on double teams has to be among the worst in the league. even if he doesnt turn it over, its a scary pass. even if you surround him with shooters, the odds have to say doubling him makes sense. My fear is a good coach knows this and its exploited in the playoffs. KD needs to seriously fix this.

2) Steve Nash did his best to ice kyrie irving. it is infuriating how bad our coaching is. Kyrie hits his second straight 3 giving him 20 points on the night. he is on fire. we get a stop, nash calls timeout to sub kyrie out of the game with 6 to go in the 2nd quarter, only to bring him back 2 minutes later. like legit the only thing that could possible do is cool kyrie off. he hadnt played a ton, so it was some minutes thing, especially since he came back 2 minutes later. like hey moron, when your superstar is on fire in a zone give him the ball dont send him to the bench. Kyrie DID NOT SCORE AGAIN in the first half.

3) I said last game, LMA has given us good minutes. he has but unreal as a jumpshooter and not been a liability in other areas... but Claxton should be the backup to drummond. LMA just isnt as good a fit. Our offense doesnt need more mid range jumpers. we need switchability, shot blocking, and someone who can roll to the rim.

4) Nash not taking KD out in the middle of like a 6 possesion melton of turnovers, bricks while triple teamed and a technical is a criminal offense. if you cant coach to save your life you need to at least manage your stars. it is beyond me why steve nash and this staff is still here.

5) Kyrie was unreal. 50 points is the eye popping number, but to me the 19 FGA is what stands out more. 50 points on 19 shots is like Wilt Chaimberlain vs 6'2" white plumbers type efficiency... Yi Jianlian vs. a chair type efficiency. God mode stuff. Few scorers are as good when locked in. This is why you dont trade kyrie. even if you get like beal or something.... in a huge game Kyrie is going to come to play and he is going to take your lunch. Kyrie is a ceiling raiser. he plays big in big games and when he plays well few if any can match him point for point. Some guys like Beal or Lillard are great scorers.... but kyrie is in that class of guys who even elite defenders cant stop. thats huge in the playoffs.

6) We need what Ben brings bad. Ben is a run stopper. you can put him on Tatum or LaMello and make them take a tough shot in the middle of a 10-0 run to help stop the bleeding. He is long enough to go under screens and still close out threes and big/agile enough to switch everything. Bruce Brown is starting for us, Ben taking his spot doesnt change our spacing since no one respects browns jumper. Ben's D is huge. i hope he is back after philly. we need him for the stretch run.

6) Drummond was low key important. they are an awful rebounding team and he got a bunch of offensive rebounds. in the past, we would not have taken advantage of their lack of size. He needs to play bigger within 3 feet thought. he is like sharpe he gets blocked alot for a big dude. pump fake and dunk. period.

If we can beat philly we have 4 very winnable games after that. every game is huge at this point.


He's best career passing numbers come from this year :D
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Post#134 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 9, 2022 12:07 pm

Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:I'm sure Nash is afraid of KD, but when he's cold and frustrated give him a blow and calm him down. Old school coaches would immediately pull a guy after a technical.


It is absurd. a complete lack of awareness or the know-how to get your player out of a funk... let this sink in:

6 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter. Kyrie hits back to back threes, and scored on 3 of the nets last 4 possessions, giving the Nets a 20 point lead. The Nets get a stop, there is no stoppage of play...

Nash calls a timeout, SUBS KYRIE OUT.

2 minutes later, at the 4 minute mark, he SUBS KYRIE BACK IN.

An absolutely flamethrowing kyrie is taken out, in the middle of going on a personal 8-0 run. like nash literally TRIED to ice kyrie irving and cool him off.

Nash is so dumb that he inadvertently is icing off his own hot player, while leaving his dying players on the sinking ship to die.

its beyond awful


It literally takes superhuman performances from Kyrie or KD to overcome this idiot's decision making. Sean Marks should be fired. I don't care anymore.
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Post#135 » by Fallout_3 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 12:12 pm

It's a bit worrying how Dragic and Curry can play no defense at the end of the games. Hopefully this can be covered up a bit when Simmons comes back to life.
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Post#136 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 9, 2022 12:23 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Well, KD and Kyrie have pretty much shared my thoughts about Harden. I can't blame him if he thinks Philly is a better shot especially with Kyrie is part time.

It is what it is. No hard feelings. This situation isn't ideal right now.

Nope.

I won’t ever agree when this clown is out partying in between games since last season and showing up playing like he’s drunk in key games without KD, Joe Harris prior to any COVID canceled games, without Kyrie we had the #1 seed until he wanted to test free agency. He pulled a Jason Kidd/Deron Williams move and plenty of Nets fans get that. He’s an all-time great talent but it doesn’t excuse that to the point where Kevin Durant and Joe Tsai is looking at him funny. He’s just another Courtney Lee to me.

The situation could’ve been 20-50 and it didn’t warrant that level of immaturity from a former MVP perennial all-star and I’ve been the first one to defend him when other posters have called him out on lack of aggressiveness offensively, lack of effort defensively and clear cut lack of desire to take over games BEFORE any vaccine mandate. We couldn’t even beat Cleveland TWICE in their first TWO games with this guy.

We depended on his playmaking and ability to possibly draw fouls. Then, couldn’t even do that for months. This guy was the worst version of himself as Net. I could care less what he Kyrie’s selfishness led and I don’t care what KD said or what Tsai or Marks said. KD had 49/10 vs Bucks, Kyrie had 50 in his debut and 54 against Chicago after Kobe died, Harden had…..? Nothing at memorable at Barclays. That’s why fans booed him hard multiple times this year.

He knows he looks nuts leaving Kevin Durant and failing for a ring in Philly will make him worse than Simmons and anyone there ever. He has no other choice because he isn’t a self motivated player. He needs a rabid fan environment to check his ego. I’m certainly glad it wasn’t the Knicks. Good luck. I personally don’t want a clown like that on my team. I can’t wait for his demand to join Phoenix and return home in a few years.



I don't agree with what he did in terms of his unprofessionalism. Never have. He should have been honest with Marks and Tsai, communicated directly that he wanted out, and suited up and performed to expectation until the trade got done. That's where he went wrong and Net fans have every right to hate him for that.

But I understand why he wanted to leave, and I don't agree with the folks here who say that he should have been held hostage here.

If someone doesn't want to be here, fine with me. Let them go. No sense in keeping someone who isn't all in.
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Post#137 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 9, 2022 12:25 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Well, KD and Kyrie have pretty much shared my thoughts about Harden. I can't blame him if he thinks Philly is a better shot especially with Kyrie is part time.

It is what it is. No hard feelings. This situation isn't ideal right now.


If Harden wanted to leave he could do it in the off season.

Demanding a trade and quitting was absolutely unacceptable. And can never be defended.

He **** us over so badly. All he had to do was play out the season.


I don't understand why you wanted to keep someone that had clearly wanted out of here.

Harden had every right to request a trade. What he didn't have the right to do was be unprofessional about it.
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Post#138 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 9, 2022 12:27 pm

KD and Kyrie are going to have to combine for 100 points tomorrow for us to even have a chance versus Philly. Nash basically is a handicap to this team.
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Post#139 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 2:18 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Well, KD and Kyrie have pretty much shared my thoughts about Harden. I can't blame him if he thinks Philly is a better shot especially with Kyrie is part time.

It is what it is. No hard feelings. This situation isn't ideal right now.


If Harden wanted to leave he could do it in the off season.

Demanding a trade and quitting was absolutely unacceptable. And can never be defended.

He **** us over so badly. All he had to do was play out the season.


I don't understand why you wanted to keep someone that had clearly wanted out of here.

Harden had every right to request a trade. What he didn't have the right to do was be unprofessional about it.


Only he didnt request a trade... he forced a trade by quitting on the team, alienating his teammates, and throwing games with his dogging it on the floor.
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Post#140 » by GTR11 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 2:22 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:I'm sure Nash is afraid of KD, but when he's cold and frustrated give him a blow and calm him down. Old school coaches would immediately pull a guy after a technical.


It is absurd. a complete lack of awareness or the know-how to get your player out of a funk... let this sink in:

6 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter. Kyrie hits back to back threes, and scored on 3 of the nets last 4 possessions, giving the Nets a 20 point lead. The Nets get a stop, there is no stoppage of play...

Nash calls a timeout, SUBS KYRIE OUT.

2 minutes later, at the 4 minute mark, he SUBS KYRIE BACK IN.

An absolutely flamethrowing kyrie is taken out, in the middle of going on a personal 8-0 run. like nash literally TRIED to ice kyrie irving and cool him off.

Nash is so dumb that he inadvertently is icing off his own hot player, while leaving his dying players on the sinking ship to die.

its beyond awful


It literally takes superhuman performances from Kyrie or KD to overcome this idiot's decision making. Sean Marks should be fired. I don't care anymore.

Beside falling into superstars influence, what exactly Marks did wrong?

Marks is top 5 GM if not best, if we look at what he's done. No GM managed to do what he's done throughout the history. NBA HISTORY.

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