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Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Wed Mar 2, 2022 5:53 am

NHL player agent Dan Milstein, who represents a majority of the Russian-born players in the league, told ESPN his clients are experiencing \"disturbing levels\" of harassment and believes draft-eligible players are already being discriminated against because of Russia\'s invasion of Ukraine.

\"The discrimination and racism these Russian and Belarusian players are facing right now is remarkable,\" Milstein told ESPN in an interview on Tuesday. \"We\'re being set back 30 years. I have players calling me, parents calling me. They\'re concerned whether they\'ll be able to play, whether they\'ll be safe.\"

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Post#2 » by Barcs » Wed Mar 2, 2022 5:38 pm

I understand calling out players like Ovechkin who openly support Putin, but they shouldn't be discriminating just because they are Russian. Many Russians are against Putin, but people that support him should absolutely be called out and shamed for it. That doesn't mean threaten them, however. That's uncalled for, just call them stupid morons like they are for supporting a tyrannical far right authoritarian dictator who is invading a sovereign country for no real reason. I wouldn't draft or sign a clown that openly supports Putin.
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Post#3 » by captain green » Wed Mar 2, 2022 6:43 pm

Awe, are they receiving a back lash, feelings are hurt about threats meanwhile people dying in Ukraine! GTFO Russia, don't like your leadership get a new leader or become the laughing stock of the world! Some super power you got there Russia you attack your cousins and they don't quit and you think you can take on anyone else lol. Not a smart move all the way around. Putin: I want Ukraine back to Russia so I'll attack and kill my future Russians to get it. What? that lunacy. Putin: the rest of the world interferes hellfire like you've never seen. The whole world intervenes what does Russia put a hike on its own people lol again lunacy. If real Russians don't want to be hated take your country back otherwise you deserve what you get
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Post#4 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Mar 3, 2022 3:04 am

Yeah I don’t think Russian hockey players should be threatened either, but this guy is making it out like they are the victims?
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Post#5 » by GopherIt! » Thu Mar 3, 2022 8:44 am

Barcs wrote:I understand calling out players like Ovechkin who openly support Putin, but they shouldn't be discriminating just because they are Russian. Many Russians are against Putin, but people that support him should absolutely be called out and shamed for it. That doesn't mean threaten them, however. That's uncalled for, just call them stupid morons like they are for supporting a tyrannical far right authoritarian dictator who is invading a sovereign country for no real reason. I wouldn't draft or sign a clown that openly supports Putin.


The USSR invaded Poland in 1939 and stayed there until 1990. 50 years of communist captivity. The devastation the former USSR and communism inflicted on Eastern Europeans was pure evil. Putin and his regime were proudly part of that evil far-leftist machine.

He was a high ranking KGB officer for 16 years. He lost his job when the Soviet Union collapsed & later worked for president Boris Yeltsin (another career Communist.) Even today, most of “president” Putins key advisors were once officers/members of the former USSR. Putin is a communist. A tiger cannot change its stripes.
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Post#6 » by Barcs » Thu Mar 3, 2022 3:20 pm

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Barcs wrote:I understand calling out players like Ovechkin who openly support Putin, but they shouldn't be discriminating just because they are Russian. Many Russians are against Putin, but people that support him should absolutely be called out and shamed for it. That doesn't mean threaten them, however. That's uncalled for, just call them stupid morons like they are for supporting a tyrannical far right authoritarian dictator who is invading a sovereign country for no real reason. I wouldn't draft or sign a clown that openly supports Putin.


The USSR invaded Poland in 1939 and stayed there until 1990. 50 years of communist captivity. The devastation the former USSR and communism inflicted on Eastern Europeans was pure evil. Putin and his regime were proudly part of that evil far-leftist machine.

He was a high ranking KGB officer for 16 years. He lost his job when the Soviet Union collapsed & later worked for president Boris Yeltsin (another career Communist.) Even today, most of “president” Putins key advisors were once officers/members of the former USSR. Putin is a communist. A tiger cannot change its stripes.


Not sure if you got the memo, but USSR has been defunct for 30 years and Putin is a Christian nationalist and globalist. Why are the far right people that claim to hate communists supporting Putin? Russia is capitalist, today, Putin is Trump's idol. Maybe Putin's trying to bring back communism, but I doubt it, because capitalism keeps his pockets lined with cash.
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Barcs wrote:Not sure if you got the memo, but USSR has been defunct for 30 years and Putin is a Christian nationalist and globalist. Why are the far right people that claim to hate communists supporting Putin? Russia is capitalist, today, Putin is Trump's idol. Maybe Putin's trying to bring back communism, but I doubt it, because capitalism keeps his pockets lined with cash.


Do you realize who has run/is running Russia? It’s the same people who led the USSR. Yeltsin was a member of the Communist party 30+ years. Putin 16 years. Do u think they magically gave up their Communist ideals because the Communist gov’t fell? Of course not. Any talk of Russian freedom or faith is political posturing. A tiger cannot change its stripes.

Q: Who are Putin’s allies?

A: China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.

Do any of those sound like Christian and/or right wing countries? Of course not. They are all as far-left and anti-Christian as you can get.

Russians are not free. Putin is a dictator. Been “president” for ~20 years. Russia is a politically corrupt nation led by a deeply corrupt tyrant. People are scared to move or speak out against him. Dissidents are getting arrested as we speak. Political opponents have been murdered and/or poisoned.

Many Russian Christians have spoke/went against him and his tyrannical gov’t. Many were imprisoned or murdered by his henchman. None of this makes the news in Russia or even abroad. I only know because of the first hand account of missionary friends who live there.
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Barcs wrote:Not sure if you got the memo, but USSR has been defunct for 30 years and Putin is a Christian nationalist and globalist. Why are the far right people that claim to hate communists supporting Putin? Russia is capitalist, today, Putin is Trump's idol. Maybe Putin's trying to bring back communism, but I doubt it, because capitalism keeps his pockets lined with cash.


Do you realize who has run/is running Russia? It’s the same people who led the USSR. Yeltsin was a member of the Communist party 30+ years. Putin 16 years. Do u think they magically gave up their Communist ideals because the Communist gov’t fell? Of course not. Any talk of Russian freedom or faith is political posturing. A tiger cannot change its stripes.

Q: Who are Putin’s allies?

A: China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.

Do any of those sound like Christian and/or right wing countries? Of course not. They are all as far-left and anti-Christian as you can get.

Russians are not free. Putin is a dictator. Been “president” for ~20 years. Russia is a politically corrupt nation led by a deeply corrupt tyrant. People are scared to move or speak out against him. Dissidents are getting arrested as we speak. Political opponents have been murdered and/or poisoned.

Many Russian Christians have spoke/went against him and his tyrannical gov’t. Many were imprisoned or murdered by his henchman. None of this makes the news in Russia or even abroad. I only know because of the first hand account of missionary friends who live there.


There isn't an ounce of communism in Russia today. Western Europe is far more socialist than Russia.

And lol at calling a theocracy left-wing. Iran is the textbook definition of an ultra-conservative state. China is communist in name. They are state capitalist/fascist in practice. Again, they don't sniff left wing.

You need to brush up on what left and right means in politics.
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Post#9 » by Barcs » Fri Mar 4, 2022 6:02 pm

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Barcs wrote:Not sure if you got the memo, but USSR has been defunct for 30 years and Putin is a Christian nationalist and globalist. Why are the far right people that claim to hate communists supporting Putin? Russia is capitalist, today, Putin is Trump's idol. Maybe Putin's trying to bring back communism, but I doubt it, because capitalism keeps his pockets lined with cash.


Do you realize who has run/is running Russia? It’s the same people who led the USSR. Yeltsin was a member of the Communist party 30+ years. Putin 16 years. Do u think they magically gave up their Communist ideals because the Communist gov’t fell? Of course not. Any talk of Russian freedom or faith is political posturing. A tiger cannot change its stripes.

Q: Who are Putin’s allies?

A: China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.

Do any of those sound like Christian and/or right wing countries? Of course not. They are all as far-left and anti-Christian as you can get.

Russians are not free. Putin is a dictator. Been “president” for ~20 years. Russia is a politically corrupt nation led by a deeply corrupt tyrant. People are scared to move or speak out against him. Dissidents are getting arrested as we speak. Political opponents have been murdered and/or poisoned.

Many Russian Christians have spoke/went against him and his tyrannical gov’t. Many were imprisoned or murdered by his henchman. None of this makes the news in Russia or even abroad. I only know because of the first hand account of missionary friends who live there.


Iran is a far right authoritarian theocracy. Russia is no longer communist, and even China is actually slight right on the political spectrum now, but when you look at them from a far right standpoint, they seem far left, but they aren't. That's just the far right extremist propaganda you hear. The "far left" in the USA is actually moderate left. Most Democratic politicians today even lean slightly right.

It's hilarious that people are still so terrified of the communist boogeyman that they actually think Christian conservatives are the victims here. They aren't. Putin is all about the Orthodox church and he used it to build his empire. Everybody knows that religion is the best control mechanism for large populations. Just because Putin is former communist, doesn't mean he doesn't see that value of religion and/or profit based capitalism. You can't really deny he's a Christian nationalist. There's a reason the evangelicals mostly support him. Just because he was part of a past communist regime, doesn't mean he can't be religious right today. He is super authoritarian and ultra nationalist.
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Post#10 » by Dennis 37 » Sun Mar 6, 2022 3:28 am

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GopherIt! wrote:
Barcs wrote:Not sure if you got the memo, but USSR has been defunct for 30 years and Putin is a Christian nationalist and globalist. Why are the far right people that claim to hate communists supporting Putin? Russia is capitalist, today, Putin is Trump's idol. Maybe Putin's trying to bring back communism, but I doubt it, because capitalism keeps his pockets lined with cash.


Do you realize who has run/is running Russia? It’s the same people who led the USSR. Yeltsin was a member of the Communist party 30+ years. Putin 16 years. Do u think they magically gave up their Communist ideals because the Communist gov’t fell? Of course not. Any talk of Russian freedom or faith is political posturing. A tiger cannot change its stripes.

Q: Who are Putin’s allies?

A: China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.

Do any of those sound like Christian and/or right wing countries? Of course not. They are all as far-left and anti-Christian as you can get.

Russians are not free. Putin is a dictator. Been “president” for ~20 years. Russia is a politically corrupt nation led by a deeply corrupt tyrant. People are scared to move or speak out against him. Dissidents are getting arrested as we speak. Political opponents have been murdered and/or poisoned.

Many Russian Christians have spoke/went against him and his tyrannical gov’t. Many were imprisoned or murdered by his henchman. None of this makes the news in Russia or even abroad. I only know because of the first hand account of missionary friends who live there.


Iran is a far right authoritarian theocracy. Russia is no longer communist, and even China is actually slight right on the political spectrum now, but when you look at them from a far right standpoint, they seem far left, but they aren't. That's just the far right extremist propaganda you hear. The "far left" in the USA is actually moderate left. Most Democratic politicians today even lean slightly right.

It's hilarious that people are still so terrified of the communist boogeyman that they actually think Christian conservatives are the victims here. They aren't. Putin is all about the Orthodox church and he used it to build his empire. Everybody knows that religion is the best control mechanism for large populations. Just because Putin is former communist, doesn't mean he doesn't see that value of religion. You can't really deny he's a Christian nationalist. There's a reason the evangelicals mostly support him. Just because he was part of a past communist regime, doesn't mean he can't be religious right today. He's a dictator and ultra nationalist.


Indeed. Putin is closer to a Czar than a communist dictator. He believes in an aristocracy, communists certainly do not.

As for Russian players they need to do two things.

1. denounce Putin
2. Declare they will not play for their national team until Russia pays war reparations and returns Crimea.

If they don't agree, they need to go home.

What we need to remember is that Putin's ego is enhanced by the success of Russian athletes. He needs to be denied this pride.
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Post#11 » by GopherIt! » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:09 pm

The "far left" in the USA is actually moderate left. Most Democratic politicians today even lean slightly right.


USA Dems lost their party to far left.
cancel culture, censorship, deplatforming are all extreme actions and come from far leftist SJO wing of dems.

Iran is a far right authoritarian theocracy


I never mentioned Iran and tbh I see no parallel between that Islamic nation and Christianity. Islam is a geo-political movement with specific political objectives. The Ned Flanders stereotypical xian just wants you to come over for dinner and bible study. Jesus’ kingdom is not of this earth.

Its hilarious that people are still so terrified of the communist boogeyman that they actually think Christian conservatives are the victims here. They aren't. Putin is all about the Orthodox church and he used it to build his empire. Everybody knows that religion is the best control mechanism for large populations. Just because Putin is former communist, doesn't mean he doesn't see that value of religion and/or profit based capitalism. You can't really deny he's a Christian nationalist. There's a reason the evangelicals mostly support him. Just because he was part of a past communist regime, doesn't mean he can't be religious right today. He is super authoritarian and ultra nationalist.


Its hilarious to you that 8million Ukrainians died in the Holodomor. Over 6 million Poles died in WW2. Half of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust were Polish. Untold #s of Poles and Ukrainians were conscripted into the Soviet army against their will and placed on the front lines, often forced to fight against their own people. Then to top it off, Operation Keelhaul sent more captured Ukrainians (among other dissidents) back to Russia to die. Hilarious. For perspective, America lost 600k in their civil war and that was ~160 years ago. You can mock & chide all u like but most Americans have absolutely no concept of the horrific impact communism had on Eastern Europe. Ask a Pole or Ukrainian age 40+ about life under the iron curtain. Most can remember it like it was yesterday.

Nationalism is not a good measure of anything politically because it can be left or right wing. Also, scapegoating religious people as mindless/easily controlled is both dishonest & disingenuous. The most important thing a person can do is think for themself. Many of the greatest minds of our species are/were theists. What makes a human controllable is 1) the refusal to think for oneself, 2) a lack of moral courage and 3) a lack of self control. If anything, its our our obsession w entertainment, alcohol and drugs that makes us mindless sheep.

Russia is no longer communist, and even China is actually slight right on the political spectrum now, but when you look at them from a far right standpoint, they seem far left, but they aren't. That's just the far right extremist propaganda you hear.


Russia’s roots are deeply communist. The impact and legacy of Lenin/Stalin is indisputable. China’s roots are also 100% communist. They are who they are because of Chairman Mao. He is revered there like a deity from the time children begin school and has had arguably had a greater impact than any other national leader in world history. Communism is a far leftist ideology. Its funny how people like you and your buddy bring the economic aspect in to lessen the harness of their complete lack of freedom w speech & religion. If u are a xian national in china & attend a house church and get caught, you go to prison and are never heard from again. especially chinese national pastors. Happens all the time. Ugher Muslims, Tibetan Buddhists and other religious minorities are persecuted as well. I’m sorry, its just idiotic beyond comprehension to describe the political situation there as “right wing.” ‘But, but, they can buy Tesla’s and eat at McDonalds!’

My original reply was specifically to your notion of Vlad being right wing morally/religiously. If u assume the notion of xian=right wing (which I actually disagree with but I disgress), I would argue Vlad is morally & religiously by your standard atheistic/leftist. He’s no xian and has no spiritual compass. His only compass is himself, his inner Kremlin circle and business associates. Vlad is worth $200 billion, if he has a god, its mammon.

Putin & his cohorts r doing whatever it takes to stay in power. (I think we agree on that.) They knew their time was short, hence the current war w Ukraine - which by the way is a Xian nation. Would a true xian leader invade another xian nation unprovoked? Of course not. Again, Vlad doesn’t give a f*** about any of that. Whatever Putin says about the ROC is all opportunistic political grand standing. If u were to publicly denounce him or the gov’t u would be arrested, disappear or be poisoned (xian or atheist). This is happening right now. Thousands of those publicly opposing him are being arrested.
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Post#13 » by GopherIt! » Wed Mar 9, 2022 8:18 am

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Indeed. Putin is closer to a Czar than a communist dictator. He believes in an aristocracy, communists certainly do not.

As for Russian players they need to do two things.

1. denounce Putin
2. Declare they will not play for their national team until Russia pays war reparations and returns Crimea.

If they don't agree, they need to go home.

What we need to remember is that Putin's ego is enhanced by the success of Russian athletes. He needs to be denied this pride.


Putin’s been in power 20 years and you try to split semantic hairs. Do u think President Pute-shoot was re-elected fairly?

Vlads only god is mammon. he’s a card carrying commie at heart. Cancel culture goes after people who donate a mere $16 to truckers but hey, spend 16 years as a high ranking kgb official for the USSR? no problem, we can ignore that! buddies with fellow career commie Boris? no problem!

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Post#14 » by Dennis 37 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:07 pm

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Dennis 37 wrote:
Indeed. Putin is closer to a Czar than a communist dictator. He believes in an aristocracy, communists certainly do not.

As for Russian players they need to do two things.

1. denounce Putin
2. Declare they will not play for their national team until Russia pays war reparations and returns Crimea.

If they don't agree, they need to go home.

What we need to remember is that Putin's ego is enhanced by the success of Russian athletes. He needs to be denied this pride.


Putin’s been in power 20 years and you try to split semantic hairs. Do u think President Pute-shoot was re-elected fairly?

Vlads only god is mammon. he’s a card carrying commie at heart. Cancel culture goes after people who donate a mere $16 to truckers but hey, spend 16 years as a high ranking kgb official for the USSR? no problem, we can ignore that! buddies with fellow career commie Boris? no problem!

face it, you secretly love him cuz
he’s a commie like you!


What a bizarre take.

For right wingers, everything they don't like is communist. If the mayonnaise has gone bad, that's communist, if the battery on their phone runs out, that's communist.

Where are the 5 year plans, the collectivized farms, the prohibition of private property, the state owned industry, you know, real indicators of communism? They're not there. The man is not a communist.

There was no trucker protest. The poor truckers, who had a point about crossing the border unvaccinated, had their protest usurped by nutbags who wanted all mandates dropped immediately. They thought they had the right to dictate governmnet policy, and kind of forgot that it is the provinces that are responsible for 90% of the mandates. None of the 4 protest leaders were truckers. The one leader had just recently resigned her leadership of an Alberta separatist party to run the anti-mandate protest. This protest was only about truckers for about 5 minutes.
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Post#15 » by GopherIt! » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:20 pm

Dennis 37 wrote:What a bizarre take.

For right wingers, everything they don't like is communist. If the mayonnaise has gone bad, that's communist, if the battery on their phone runs out, that's communist.

Where are the 5 year plans, the collectivized farms, the prohibition of private property, the state owned industry, you know, real indicators of communism? They're not there. The man is not a communist.


mayo? smh
you just uttered pure nonsense.

I have a suggestion for you, next time, do some research on Poland and Ukraine before you open your mouth and offend people with your ignorance.
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Dennis 37 wrote:What a bizarre take.

For right wingers, everything they don't like is communist. If the mayonnaise has gone bad, that's communist, if the battery on their phone runs out, that's communist.

Where are the 5 year plans, the collectivized farms, the prohibition of private property, the state owned industry, you know, real indicators of communism? They're not there. The man is not a communist.


mayo? smh
u sound really ignorant about Eastern European politics. If you made those type of comments there you would deservedly get punched in the face.

I have a suggestion for you, next time, do some research on Poland and Ukraine before you open your mouth and offend people with your ignorance.


I apologize, I know nothing of right wingers who live in Europe. My experience is with right wingers in North America. Considering you mention the "truckers" protest, I assume you are posting from Canada or the USA. Right wingers, in Europe, may be of higher intelligence. This I do not know. If you say they are, then I take your word for it.

Having said that all authoritarians are not communists. If Putin demonstrates communist tendencies, that can be separated from authoritarian tendencies, please fill me in. Did he ban private property? Did he nationalize all industry? What. What evidence am I missing that he is a communist?
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Post#17 » by GopherIt! » Wed Mar 9, 2022 7:32 pm

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I apologize, I know nothing of right wingers who live in Europe. My experience is with right wingers in North America. Considering you mention the "truckers" protest, I assume you are posting from Canada or the USA. Right wingers, in Europe, may be of higher intelligence. This I do not know. If you say they are, then I take your word for it.


Its all good Dennis. just an fyi, the mayo comment was ironic in that Russians really love mayo. it goes back to ussr days. Vlad probably smothers himself in it. :lol:

more on the other questions later.

USA sent patriot missiles to Poland and this makes me very nervous. Forgive me for saying this but Poland & Ukraine are foolish to trust the USA/UK. The USA’s answer always is to send more weapons. I feel America politics are making this situation worse.
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Post#18 » by Dennis 37 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:33 pm

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I apologize, I know nothing of right wingers who live in Europe. My experience is with right wingers in North America. Considering you mention the "truckers" protest, I assume you are posting from Canada or the USA. Right wingers, in Europe, may be of higher intelligence. This I do not know. If you say they are, then I take your word for it.


Its all good Dennis. just an fyi, the mayo comment was ironic in that Russians really love mayo. it goes back to ussr days. Vlad probably smothers himself in it. :lol:

more on the other questions later.

USA sent patriot missiles to Poland and this makes me very nervous. Forgive me for saying this but Poland & Ukraine are foolish to trust the USA/UK. The USA’s answer always is to send more weapons. I feel America politics are making this situation worse.


My view is that NATO should be run by Europeans, and only rely on the US and Canada for support. So if Poland wants patriot missiles, then that's all good. If the USA pressures Poland to have patriot missiles, that is not good.

The USA is no saint, but this video does a great job of describing why this invasion is different than Afghanistan or Iraq. Not at all defending the US decision to go into Afghanistan or Iraq.

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