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Post#141 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Mar 9, 2022 5:00 pm

Prokorov wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:Smart has also said he loves Boston and wants to retire there.


He also said it was racist.
Whatever you say dude but do not call me racist again.


racist.

As an African American with Afro-Caribbean heritage, I take racism very seriously. Calling any person "racist" is a significant charge that should not be used flippantly or lightly.

NBA players have every right and should continue to call out, highlight, and condemn any and all people who verbally employ racist rhetoric towards and/or actively discriminate against them within and outside of arenas.

If a RealGM user provides sufficient evidence highlighting another user's racist language or conduct, the offending user will be dealt with swiftly. I/we do not tolerate racism and do not want this online community to be a hub for racist rhetoric or thought.

Regarding this specific incident, it seems that your charge of racism against ajones9219 (and other users) is based upon:
1) their criticism of a player who is black (in this case, Kyrie);
2) their support of a team located in a city where black players have suffered racial abuse.

Regarding #1: Criticism of a player who is black is not tantamount to racism. Almost all of us criticize for their quality of play and possibly even personally dislike certain players for their behavior and/or actions, not because of their race.

Regarding #2: Racist abuse put forth by some (or even, god forbid, most) fans who support a particular team does not mean that EVERY fan of the team is racist nor does living in proximity to someone who espouses racist views make one racist.

A person's guilt is established by and predicated on their own words and actions (or inaction), not by those of others.

Unless you can provide the type of evidence requested above, you have no basis to call another user racist or claim they are guilty of racism by categories of association you've established.

And because your charge of racism against ajones9219 is heretofore unsubstantiated, your comment constitutes a personal attack; you are employing an ad hominem attack and using a 'guilt by association' fallacy in order to dismiss any potential valid criticism made by ajones9219 or others.

Stop doing this! You've made similar assertions towards others before and I should've addressed it sooner. There will be consequences if you continue to do this.

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On a personal note, between 2014 and 2016 I made at least 40 trips to and from Boston, each lasting the weekend (where lots of people are out and about) but often staying days longer. I took the T and buses around the city and walked in Brookline, Longwood, Backbay, Cambridge multiple times per week during all times of day. I've been to a Red Sox game at Fenway and a Nets vs Celtics game (decked out in all Nets gear). As far as I can remember, I did not see nor hear any racial slurs or experience discrimination. That isn't to say that there are no racists in Boston; I believe all of the reports of racial abuse given by the players and I'm sure there are plenty of individuals who harbor racists views. However, your portrayal of the ubiquity and extent to which racism permeates Boston uniquely did not align with my experience.
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Post#142 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 9, 2022 5:12 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:Smart has also said he loves Boston and wants to retire there.


He also said it was racist.
Whatever you say dude but do not call me racist again.


racist.

As an African American with Afro-Caribbean heritage, I take racism very seriously. Calling any person "racist" is a significant charge that should not be used flippantly or lightly.

NBA players have every right and should continue to call out, highlight, and condemn any and all people who verbally employ racist rhetoric towards and/or actively discriminate against them within and outside of arenas.

If a RealGM user provides sufficient evidence highlighting another user's racist language or conduct, the offending user will be dealt with swiftly. I/we do not tolerate racism and do not want this online community to be a hub for racist rhetoric or thought.

Regarding this specific incident, it seems that your charge of racism against ajones9219 (and other users) is based upon:
1) their criticism of a player who is black (in this case, Kyrie);
2) their support of a team located in a city where black players have suffered racial abuse.

Regarding #1: Criticism of a player who is black is not tantamount to racism. Almost all of us criticize for their quality of play and possibly even personally dislike certain players for their behavior and/or actions, not because of their race.

Regarding #2: Racist abuse put forth by some (or even, god forbid, most) fans who support a particular team does not mean that EVERY fan of the team is racist nor does living in proximity to someone who espouses racist views make one racist.

A person's guilt is established by and predicated on their own words and actions (or inaction), not by those of others.

Unless you can provide the type of evidence requested above, you have no basis to call another user racist or claim they are guilty of racism by categories of association you've established.

And because your charge of racism against ajones9219 is heretofore unsubstantiated, your comment constitutes a personal attack; you are employing an ad hominem attack and using a 'guilt by association' fallacy in order to dismiss any potential valid criticism made by ajones9219 or others.

Stop doing this! You've made similar assertions towards others before and I should've addressed it sooner. There will be consequences if you continue to do this.

— NyCe



On a personal note, between 2014 and 2016 I made at least 40 trips to and from Boston, each lasting the weekend (where lots of people are out and about) but often staying days longer. I took the T and buses around the city and walked in Brookline, Longwood, Backbay, Cambridge multiple times per week during all times of day. I've been to a Red Sox game at Fenway and a Nets vs Celtics game (decked out in all Nets gear). As far as I can remember, I did not see nor hear any racial slurs or experience discrimination. That isn't to say that there are no racists in Boston; I believe all of the reports of racial abuse given by the players and I'm sure there are plenty of individuals who harbor racists views. However, your portrayal of the ubiquity and extent to which racism permeates Boston uniquely did not align with my experience.


1) this is not "my portrayal". This is documented, quoted, admitted issue, internally, from boston. as ive said and showed, MANY times. The Boston Globe/Spotlight did an entire seires on "is boston racist" on the heels of the adam jones thing. (spoiler alert, they found it was). this isnt "well every city is a little racist". Boston is among the worst in the US which is scary given how demographically its gotten more diverse yet the racism hasnt gotten much better...

as spotlight pointed out and many of the black leaders in the city fighting said... the biggest issue is that the city wont admit there is a problem, and until that happens change will be a huge struggle. So lets not paint this as me just "portraying" them that way when:
-boston atheltes in all 4 sports
-visiting athletes in all 4 sports
-GMs/Coaches
-Mayors/political leaders
-Newspapers/reports
-Colleges/administrators

have ALL called the city out for this.

2) I'm glad you didnt have to suffer the racism and issues in your trips. My experience was different. especially after adopting a black son. who i had to move to 2 schools and eventually out of state because of racism. I had to sit next to him and walk him out of fenway park when someone told me to get my "N*gger boy" into the cheaps seats. I had to explain to him why white people jeered and threw things at the release of fred clay when we went to see his release after being wrongly imprisoned for years.

so im glad your 40 days or whatever were good. i saw racism on both sides. people saying/doing racist things in my (im white) presence because they didnt view me as someone who was anti-racist and on the receiving end with and in proxy of my black son.

so yeah F that dude.

I make no distinction between racists and those who defend them/deny the exsistence of race issues and if that gets me banned so be it.
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Post#143 » by ajones9219 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:20 pm

Prokorov wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
He also said it was racist.


racist.

As an African American with Afro-Caribbean heritage, I take racism very seriously. Calling any person "racist" is a significant charge that should not be used flippantly or lightly.

NBA players have every right and should continue to call out, highlight, and condemn any and all people who verbally employ racist rhetoric towards and/or actively discriminate against them within and outside of arenas.

If a RealGM user provides sufficient evidence highlighting another user's racist language or conduct, the offending user will be dealt with swiftly. I/we do not tolerate racism and do not want this online community to be a hub for racist rhetoric or thought.

Regarding this specific incident, it seems that your charge of racism against ajones9219 (and other users) is based upon:
1) their criticism of a player who is black (in this case, Kyrie);
2) their support of a team located in a city where black players have suffered racial abuse.

Regarding #1: Criticism of a player who is black is not tantamount to racism. Almost all of us criticize for their quality of play and possibly even personally dislike certain players for their behavior and/or actions, not because of their race.

Regarding #2: Racist abuse put forth by some (or even, god forbid, most) fans who support a particular team does not mean that EVERY fan of the team is racist nor does living in proximity to someone who espouses racist views make one racist.

A person's guilt is established by and predicated on their own words and actions (or inaction), not by those of others.

Unless you can provide the type of evidence requested above, you have no basis to call another user racist or claim they are guilty of racism by categories of association you've established.

And because your charge of racism against ajones9219 is heretofore unsubstantiated, your comment constitutes a personal attack; you are employing an ad hominem attack and using a 'guilt by association' fallacy in order to dismiss any potential valid criticism made by ajones9219 or others.

Stop doing this! You've made similar assertions towards others before and I should've addressed it sooner. There will be consequences if you continue to do this.

— NyCe



On a personal note, between 2014 and 2016 I made at least 40 trips to and from Boston, each lasting the weekend (where lots of people are out and about) but often staying days longer. I took the T and buses around the city and walked in Brookline, Longwood, Backbay, Cambridge multiple times per week during all times of day. I've been to a Red Sox game at Fenway and a Nets vs Celtics game (decked out in all Nets gear). As far as I can remember, I did not see nor hear any racial slurs or experience discrimination. That isn't to say that there are no racists in Boston; I believe all of the reports of racial abuse given by the players and I'm sure there are plenty of individuals who harbor racists views. However, your portrayal of the ubiquity and extent to which racism permeates Boston uniquely did not align with my experience.


1) this is not "my portrayal". This is documented, quoted, admitted issue, internally, from boston. as ive said and showed, MANY times. The Boston Globe/Spotlight did an entire seires on "is boston racist" on the heels of the adam jones thing. (spoiler alert, they found it was). this isnt "well every city is a little racist". Boston is among the worst in the US which is scary given how demographically its gotten more diverse yet the racism hasnt gotten much better...

as spotlight pointed out and many of the black leaders in the city fighting said... the biggest issue is that the city wont admit there is a problem, and until that happens change will be a huge struggle. So lets not paint this as me just "portraying" them that way when:
-boston atheltes in all 4 sports
-visiting athletes in all 4 sports
-GMs/Coaches
-Mayors/political leaders
-Newspapers/reports
-Colleges/administrators

have ALL called the city out for this.

2) I'm glad you didnt have to suffer the racism and issues in your trips. My experience was different. especially after adopting a black son. who i had to move to 2 schools and eventually out of state because of racism. I had to sit next to him and walk him out of fenway park when someone told me to get my "N*gger boy" into the cheaps seats. I had to explain to him why white people jeered and threw things at the release of fred clay when we went to see his release after being wrongly imprisoned for years.

so im glad your 40 days or whatever were good. i saw racism on both sides. people saying/doing racist things in my (im white) presence because they didnt view me as someone who was anti-racist and on the receiving end with and in proxy of my black son.

so yeah F that dude.

I make no distinction between racists and those who defend them/deny the exsistence of race issues and if that gets me banned so be it.


First of all I'm sorry you and your son experienced racism. That shouldn't be tolerated and it's awful.

I never even mentioned the Celtics/Boston/race in this thread until you came in calling me racist. I was having dialog with other members of this board. So not even sure how it went that far off the rails to begin with.

I'd love to not derail the thread more and get back to the topic provided you don't lodge any more baseless insults at me.
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Post#144 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 9, 2022 7:43 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:Smart has also said he loves Boston and wants to retire there.


He also said it was racist.
Whatever you say dude but do not call me racist again.


racist.

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Wait buddy you're Afro-Caribbean like me and Paradise????

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Post#145 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Mar 9, 2022 7:44 pm

Prokorov wrote:1) this is not "my portrayal". This is documented, quoted, admitted issue, internally, from boston. as ive said and showed, MANY times. The Boston Globe/Spotlight did an entire seires on "is boston racist" on the heels of the adam jones thing. (spoiler alert, they found it was). this isnt "well every city is a little racist". Boston is among the worst in the US which is scary given how demographically its gotten more diverse yet the racism hasnt gotten much better...

as spotlight pointed out and many of the black leaders in the city fighting said... the biggest issue is that the city wont admit there is a problem, and until that happens change will be a huge struggle. So lets not paint this as me just "portraying" them that way when:
-boston atheltes in all 4 sports
-visiting athletes in all 4 sports
-GMs/Coaches
-Mayors/political leaders
-Newspapers/reports
-Colleges/administrators

have ALL called the city out for this.

2) I'm glad you didnt have to suffer the racism and issues in your trips. My experience was different. especially after adopting a black son. who i had to move to 2 schools and eventually out of state because of racism. I had to sit next to him and walk him out of fenway park when someone told me to get my "N*gger boy" into the cheaps seats. I had to explain to him why white people jeered and threw things at the release of fred clay when we went to see his release after being wrongly imprisoned for years.

so im glad your 40 days or whatever were good. i saw racism on both sides. people saying/doing racist things in my (im white) presence because they didnt view me as someone who was anti-racist and on the receiving end with and in proxy of my black son.

so yeah F that dude.

I make no distinction between racists and those who defend them/deny the exsistence of race issues and if that gets me banned so be it.

You seem to be conflating separate two issues:
1) You called ajones9219 'racist' (without provocation or providing corroborating evidence), because they are Celtics fan who is critical of Kyrie;
2) Your analysis of how racist is Boston.

I have no issue with #2. I actually support your commentary and advocacy of issues of race, especially in Boston. I'm truly sorry that you and your family have had to endure abuse by racists in your time there. Again, I did state that I believe all of the personal reports by the players and I in no way was trying to deny, discredit, or minimize the experiences or realities of what others have endured.
I was stating my experience, but after giving more thought, I either shouldn't have included that or should have made it more of a personal aside. I can totally see how it could be read as statement completely opposing "I've spent a lot of time in Boston and didn't experience any racism, so it doesn't exist." That's not what I intended and far from what I believe.

I do have an issue with #1. You assumed that because ajones is critical of Kyrie (a black athlete) and support the Celtics, they are a resident of Boston whose criticisms are motivated by racism.

Unless ajones is lying, they are not even a resident of Boston, so the premise that you used to assume and prejudge their character and beliefs was false from the outset. That's highly problematic.

Because I take racism seriously, I think levying charges of racism against someone are serious as well. Nothing ajones has done or said nothing that supports your claim, therefore the charge you've levied against them is considered a personal attack. And this isn't the first time you've made similar charges against users without supporting evidence. Unless you can prove that ajones or any other specific user is racist by their own rhetoric and conduct, we will not tolerate you making such a disparaging claim against them.
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Post#146 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Mar 9, 2022 8:13 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
He also said it was racist.


racist.

[color=#FF0000]As an African American with Afro-Caribbean heritage


Wait buddy you're Afro-Caribbean like me and Paradise????

bumbaclaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

(My father used to work in network- and cybersecurity, so he made me justifiably paranoid about revealing personal information online lol.)

Yes, I am. While my father was born in England, his parents and extended family are from Jamaica. He lived in JA for a short time as a kid and moved to New Jersey when he was a teen. The culture remained strong within the family though. My dad started a reggae jazz band with a few of his brothers, cousins, and a few friends in the 80s called 'One Way Posse'.

My wife's Trini too, so in addition to reggae, dancehall, rice & peas, and stew chicken, I now love soca and pastelles too. :lol:

My mom's side is African-American and my maternal great-grandmother (or great-great) was Native American.

I've been "code switching" all my life...lahd ah mercy.

I’ve been playing Shabba Ranks and Cutty Ranks for my daughter since she was born. :lol:
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Post#147 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 9, 2022 8:57 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:[color=#FF0000]As an African American with Afro-Caribbean heritage


Wait buddy you're Afro-Caribbean like me and Paradise????

bumbaclaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

(My father used to work in network- and cybersecurity, so he made me justifiably paranoid about revealing personal information online lol.)

Yes, I am. While my father was born in England, his parents and extended family are from Jamaica. He lived in JA for a short time as a kid and moved to New Jersey when he was a teen. The culture remained strong within the family though. My dad started a reggae jazz band with a few of his brothers, cousins, and a few friends in the 80s called 'One Way Posse'.

My wife's Trini too, so in addition to reggae, dancehall, rice & peas, and stew chicken, I now love soca and pastelles too. :lol:

My mom's side is African-American and my maternal great-grandmother (or great-great) was Native American.

I've been "code switching" all my life...lahd ah mercy.

I’ve been playing Shabba Ranks and Cutty Ranks for my daughter since she was born. :lol:



Oh hell yeah man i never knew :nod: I'm Bajan-American myself
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Post#148 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Mar 9, 2022 9:41 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Wait buddy you're Afro-Caribbean like me and Paradise????

bumbaclaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

(My father used to work in network- and cybersecurity, so he made me justifiably paranoid about revealing personal information online lol.)

Yes, I am. While my father was born in England, his parents and extended family are from Jamaica. He lived in JA for a short time as a kid and moved to New Jersey when he was a teen. The culture remained strong within the family though. My dad started a reggae jazz band with a few of his brothers, cousins, and a few friends in the 80s called 'One Way Posse'.

My wife's Trini too, so in addition to reggae, dancehall, rice & peas, and stew chicken, I now love soca and pastelles too. :lol:

My mom's side is African-American and my maternal great-grandmother (or great-great) was Native American.

I've been "code switching" all my life...lahd ah mercy.

I’ve been playing Shabba Ranks and Cutty Ranks for my daughter since she was born. :lol:



Oh hell yeah man i never knew :nod: I'm Bajan-American myself

Nice! I was in Barbados for two years a few years back. My wife had to go for work and I was able to tag along. We stayed with someone who lived on the island, so it was nice to get trips around the island from a local. Bro, the beaches are the best I've ever been to lol. I went to one in PR that had white sand and blue water, but Barbados had those kinda beaches everywhere.

Do you listen to King Bubba and Lil Rick? Those are two of my favorite Bajan Soca artists. I like Alison Hinds too.

My wife and I have talked for years about going to carnival in Trinidad, but with it being February, it would usually be inconvenient for us to travel so soon after the Christmas holiday period. However, Crop Over in Barbados is much more doable with it being in the summer.

My wife's immediate family moved to Toronto almost 15 years ago, so I've been to Caribana many times. Brooklyn's Labor Day Parade is ok too, but after the last few times I finally learned that you have to leave early before things get hostile and people sadly start fighting or you hear rumors of a shooting.

Where is 'Dise (or his family) from?
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Post#149 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:50 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:(My father used to work in network- and cybersecurity, so he made me justifiably paranoid about revealing personal information online lol.)

Yes, I am. While my father was born in England, his parents and extended family are from Jamaica. He lived in JA for a short time as a kid and moved to New Jersey when he was a teen. The culture remained strong within the family though. My dad started a reggae jazz band with a few of his brothers, cousins, and a few friends in the 80s called 'One Way Posse'.

My wife's Trini too, so in addition to reggae, dancehall, rice & peas, and stew chicken, I now love soca and pastelles too. :lol:

My mom's side is African-American and my maternal great-grandmother (or great-great) was Native American.

I've been "code switching" all my life...lahd ah mercy.

I’ve been playing Shabba Ranks and Cutty Ranks for my daughter since she was born. :lol:



Oh hell yeah man i never knew :nod: I'm Bajan-American myself

Nice! I was in Barbados for two years a few years back. My wife had to go for work and I was able to tag along. We stayed with someone who lived on the island, so it was nice to get trips around the island from a local. Bro, the beaches are the best I've ever been to lol. I went to one in PR that had white sand and blue water, but Barbados had those kinda beaches everywhere.

Do you listen to King Bubba and Lil Rick? Those are two of my favorite Bajan Soca artists. I like Alison Hinds too.

My wife and I have talked for years about going to carnival in Trinidad, but with it being February, it would usually be inconvenient for us to travel so soon after the Christmas holiday period. However, Crop Over in Barbados is much more doable with it being in the summer.

My wife's immediate family moved to Toronto almost 15 years ago, so I've been to Caribana many times. Brooklyn's Labor Day Parade is ok too, but after the last few times I finally learned that you have to leave early before things get hostile and people sadly start fighting or you hear rumors of a shooting.

Where is 'Dise (or his family) from?


Yes, the beaches in Barbados are among the best in the entire world. It makes me wonder how people here in NJ can even set foot in the ocean water over here :lol: that water looks like toxic waste compared to Barbados

CropOver is a MUST do if you can. You and your wife will have a wild good time. The food, partying and music are all turned up 1000% at that time of year.

Yeah Lil Rick is pretty dope. Alison Hinds is related to one of my good friends who is from the island :lol:

I haven't been to the Labor Day parade since 2007. Dudes wild out too much for me, it's a great time but I don't feel like going to events where getting shot is a possibility :nonono:
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Post#150 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:52 pm

Back on topic....

Read on Twitter


Nets have "more than an optomism" that Kyrie will play home games
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266096/Nets-Remain-Optimistic-Kyrie-Irving-Will-Play-In-Home-Games-This-Season

It looks like there is going to be an exemption for private employers who provide "a reasonable alternative" to provide safety.
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Post#151 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:57 pm

Prokorov wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
He also said it was racist.


racist.

As an African American with Afro-Caribbean heritage, I take racism very seriously. Calling any person "racist" is a significant charge that should not be used flippantly or lightly.

NBA players have every right and should continue to call out, highlight, and condemn any and all people who verbally employ racist rhetoric towards and/or actively discriminate against them within and outside of arenas.

If a RealGM user provides sufficient evidence highlighting another user's racist language or conduct, the offending user will be dealt with swiftly. I/we do not tolerate racism and do not want this online community to be a hub for racist rhetoric or thought.

Regarding this specific incident, it seems that your charge of racism against ajones9219 (and other users) is based upon:
1) their criticism of a player who is black (in this case, Kyrie);
2) their support of a team located in a city where black players have suffered racial abuse.

Regarding #1: Criticism of a player who is black is not tantamount to racism. Almost all of us criticize for their quality of play and possibly even personally dislike certain players for their behavior and/or actions, not because of their race.

Regarding #2: Racist abuse put forth by some (or even, god forbid, most) fans who support a particular team does not mean that EVERY fan of the team is racist nor does living in proximity to someone who espouses racist views make one racist.

A person's guilt is established by and predicated on their own words and actions (or inaction), not by those of others.

Unless you can provide the type of evidence requested above, you have no basis to call another user racist or claim they are guilty of racism by categories of association you've established.

And because your charge of racism against ajones9219 is heretofore unsubstantiated, your comment constitutes a personal attack; you are employing an ad hominem attack and using a 'guilt by association' fallacy in order to dismiss any potential valid criticism made by ajones9219 or others.

Stop doing this! You've made similar assertions towards others before and I should've addressed it sooner. There will be consequences if you continue to do this.

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On a personal note, between 2014 and 2016 I made at least 40 trips to and from Boston, each lasting the weekend (where lots of people are out and about) but often staying days longer. I took the T and buses around the city and walked in Brookline, Longwood, Backbay, Cambridge multiple times per week during all times of day. I've been to a Red Sox game at Fenway and a Nets vs Celtics game (decked out in all Nets gear). As far as I can remember, I did not see nor hear any racial slurs or experience discrimination. That isn't to say that there are no racists in Boston; I believe all of the reports of racial abuse given by the players and I'm sure there are plenty of individuals who harbor racists views. However, your portrayal of the ubiquity and extent to which racism permeates Boston uniquely did not align with my experience.


1) this is not "my portrayal". This is documented, quoted, admitted issue, internally, from boston. as ive said and showed, MANY times. The Boston Globe/Spotlight did an entire seires on "is boston racist" on the heels of the adam jones thing. (spoiler alert, they found it was). this isnt "well every city is a little racist". Boston is among the worst in the US which is scary given how demographically its gotten more diverse yet the racism hasnt gotten much better...

as spotlight pointed out and many of the black leaders in the city fighting said... the biggest issue is that the city wont admit there is a problem, and until that happens change will be a huge struggle. So lets not paint this as me just "portraying" them that way when:
-boston atheltes in all 4 sports
-visiting athletes in all 4 sports
-GMs/Coaches
-Mayors/political leaders
-Newspapers/reports
-Colleges/administrators

have ALL called the city out for this.

2) I'm glad you didnt have to suffer the racism and issues in your trips. My experience was different. especially after adopting a black son. who i had to move to 2 schools and eventually out of state because of racism. I had to sit next to him and walk him out of fenway park when someone told me to get my "N*gger boy" into the cheaps seats. I had to explain to him why white people jeered and threw things at the release of fred clay when we went to see his release after being wrongly imprisoned for years.

so im glad your 40 days or whatever were good. i saw racism on both sides. people saying/doing racist things in my (im white) presence because they didnt view me as someone who was anti-racist and on the receiving end with and in proxy of my black son.

so yeah F that dude.

I make no distinction between racists and those who defend them/deny the exsistence of race issues and if that gets me banned so be it.

So sorry for you and your son to experience that. that's unfair and truly barbaric today. People are truly animals when they want to be.
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#152 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:00 pm

Prokorov wrote:Back on topic....

Read on Twitter


Nets have "more than an optomism" that Kyrie will play home games
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266096/Nets-Remain-Optimistic-Kyrie-Irving-Will-Play-In-Home-Games-This-Season

It looks like there is going to be an exemption for private employers who provide "a reasonable alternative" to provide safety.

I've seen that/heard that, but i mean, feels like clickbait to me... nothing of substance was really said nor progress towards Kyrie playing was given.

It feels like much ado about nothing to me rather than actual change is coming.
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#153 » by NetsWorld » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:01 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Back on topic....

Read on Twitter


Nets have "more than an optomism" that Kyrie will play home games
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266096/Nets-Remain-Optimistic-Kyrie-Irving-Will-Play-In-Home-Games-This-Season

It looks like there is going to be an exemption for private employers who provide "a reasonable alternative" to provide safety.

I've seen that/heard that, but i mean, feels like clickbait to me... nothing of substance was really said nor progress towards Kyrie playing was given.

It feels like much ado about nothing to me rather than actual change is coming.



Eh, don't know....But from reading Twitter this morning about the Nets facebook page, they are "supposedly" announcing Kyrie will be able tomorrow for Sunday's game.
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#154 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:14 pm

Something HAS to happen before Sunday. No way the mayor's office will allow the ugly optics of Kyrie on the bench/in the stands unmasked but not being able to step on the floor on NATIONAL TV. (it's on ABC)

That will be an terrible look because you can bet they will be talking about how dumb that is pre/post game and during the broadcast. That would be ugly for the mayor AND the NBA.

Something will 100% be announced but it might not necessarily mean Kyrie will be cleared tho :lol:
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Post#155 » by NetsWorld » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:18 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Something HAS to happen before Sunday. No way the mayor's office will allow the ugly optics of Kyrie on the bench/in the stands unmasked but not being able to step on the floor on NATIONAL TV. (it's on ABC)

That will be an terrible look because you can bet they will be talking about how dumb that is pre/post game and during the broadcast. That would be ugly for the mayor AND the NBA.

Something will 100% be announced but it might not necessarily mean Kyrie will be cleared tho :lol:



100% they will be announcing it tomorrow as PER THE PAGE that was posted on twitter. Drummond even hinted at it on Danny the Bitch Green's podcast. It's not a surprise at all this is all popping out before the Sunday game against the Knicks of all foes.
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#156 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:31 pm

KD35Netted wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Back on topic....

Read on Twitter


Nets have "more than an optomism" that Kyrie will play home games
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266096/Nets-Remain-Optimistic-Kyrie-Irving-Will-Play-In-Home-Games-This-Season

It looks like there is going to be an exemption for private employers who provide "a reasonable alternative" to provide safety.

I've seen that/heard that, but i mean, feels like clickbait to me... nothing of substance was really said nor progress towards Kyrie playing was given.

It feels like much ado about nothing to me rather than actual change is coming.



Eh, don't know....But from reading Twitter this morning about the Nets facebook page, they are "supposedly" announcing Kyrie will be able tomorrow for Sunday's game.

Can you elaborate?
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#157 » by NetsWorld » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:33 pm

Prokorov wrote:
KD35Netted wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:I've seen that/heard that, but i mean, feels like clickbait to me... nothing of substance was really said nor progress towards Kyrie playing was given.

It feels like much ado about nothing to me rather than actual change is coming.



Eh, don't know....But from reading Twitter this morning about the Nets facebook page, they are "supposedly" announcing Kyrie will be able tomorrow for Sunday's game.

Can you elaborate?



When I woke up at 6:30, there were tweets about the Nets facebook page saying they will announce on Friday that Kyrie will be eligible. I cannot find the tweets anymore but I KNOW for A FACT they were there. And if you listen to Drummond, he became public about Kyrie playing Sunday at Barclays. Outside of that, nothing else.
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#158 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:35 pm

KD35Netted wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:Something HAS to happen before Sunday. No way the mayor's office will allow the ugly optics of Kyrie on the bench/in the stands unmasked but not being able to step on the floor on NATIONAL TV. (it's on ABC)

That will be an terrible look because you can bet they will be talking about how dumb that is pre/post game and during the broadcast. That would be ugly for the mayor AND the NBA.

Something will 100% be announced but it might not necessarily mean Kyrie will be cleared tho :lol:



100% they will be announcing it tomorrow as PER THE PAGE that was posted on twitter. Drummond even hinted at it on Danny the Bitch Green's podcast. It's not a surprise at all this is all popping out before the Sunday game against the Knicks of all foes.

I heard something about the Nets Facebook page, but I haven't seen anything. DO you have a link?
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#159 » by NetsWorld » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:48 pm

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KD35Netted wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:Something HAS to happen before Sunday. No way the mayor's office will allow the ugly optics of Kyrie on the bench/in the stands unmasked but not being able to step on the floor on NATIONAL TV. (it's on ABC)

That will be an terrible look because you can bet they will be talking about how dumb that is pre/post game and during the broadcast. That would be ugly for the mayor AND the NBA.

Something will 100% be announced but it might not necessarily mean Kyrie will be cleared tho :lol:



100% they will be announcing it tomorrow as PER THE PAGE that was posted on twitter. Drummond even hinted at it on Danny the Bitch Green's podcast. It's not a surprise at all this is all popping out before the Sunday game against the Knicks of all foes.

I heard something about the Nets Facebook page, but I haven't seen anything. DO you have a link?


Here's what I found, and correction, it's someone from the Nets FB group.

Read on Twitter
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Re: BREAKING: Shams| NYC Mandate will be lifted allow Kyrie to play home games! 

Post#160 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:57 pm

KD35Netted wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:
KD35Netted wrote:

100% they will be announcing it tomorrow as PER THE PAGE that was posted on twitter. Drummond even hinted at it on Danny the Bitch Green's podcast. It's not a surprise at all this is all popping out before the Sunday game against the Knicks of all foes.

I heard something about the Nets Facebook page, but I haven't seen anything. DO you have a link?


Here's what I found, and correction, it's someone from the Nets FB group.

Read on Twitter

So some guy on Twitter posted that some other guy in a Facebook Group posted that Kyrie is going to play on Sunday? That's not exactly a reliable source. It's possible, because of how foolish it will look to have Kyrie sitting on or behind the bench (potentially maskless) on national TV, but not able to play because of "the science."

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