Wiggins or RJ Barrett?

[cpower]

Wiggins is averaging 18.7 pts / 49.1% FG / 42.2% 3pts / 59.4% TS.
Barret is averaging 15.1 pts / 40.2% FG / 35.3% 3pts / 51.0% TS.

Don't think it's a fair comparison.

Wiggins is averaging 17.4 pts 56.6% TS.
Barret is averaging 19.2 pts 51.8% TS.

Wiggins is better in his role but his "potential" is completely gone now. Barret is not good right now but he can still be better than Wiggins.

[Rockazoids]

Wiggins is averaging 18.7 pts / 49.1% FG / 42.2% 3pts / 59.4% TS.
Barret is averaging 15.1 pts / 40.2% FG / 35.3% 3pts / 51.0% TS.

Don't think it's a fair comparison.

Wiggins is averaging 17.4 pts 56.6% TS.
Barret is averaging 19.2 pts 51.8% TS.

Wiggins is better in his role but his "potential" is completely gone now. Barret is not good right now but he can still be better than Wiggins.

Barrett is not good right now?

[cgf]

Wiggins is averaging 18.7 pts / 49.1% FG / 42.2% 3pts / 59.4% TS.
Barret is averaging 15.1 pts / 40.2% FG / 35.3% 3pts / 51.0% TS.

Don't think it's a fair comparison.

Wiggins is averaging 17.4 pts 56.6% TS.
Barret is averaging 19.2 pts 51.8% TS.

Wiggins is better in his role but his "potential" is completely gone now. Barret is not good right now but he can still be better than Wiggins.

Barrett is not good right now?

Since he included the "in his role" part when talking about Wiggins, I think he was saying that because RJ isn't efficient yet in this larger role, he isn't yet a good higher volume creator. Not that he's a bad NBAer in general.

[Rockazoids]

Wiggins is averaging 17.4 pts 56.6% TS.
Barret is averaging 19.2 pts 51.8% TS.

Wiggins is better in his role but his "potential" is completely gone now. Barret is not good right now but he can still be better than Wiggins.

Barrett is not good right now?

I think he was saying that because RJ isn't efficient yet in this larger role, he isn't yet a good higher volume creator. Not that he's a bad NBAer in general; as we saw last year that RJ can be efficient in the kind of smaller role that Wiggins has been filling this year.

That not what he said. If he said RJ not better now. OK

[cgf]

Barrett is not good right now?

I think he was saying that because RJ isn't efficient yet in this larger role, he isn't yet a good higher volume creator. Not that he's a bad NBAer in general; as we saw last year that RJ can be efficient in the kind of smaller role that Wiggins has been filling this year.

That not what he said. If he said RJ not better now. OK

Right, but the part talking about RJ could still be referring to the "in his role" condition that was applied to Wiggins. Which would make more sense than the other interpretation.

[cgf]

Just how much smoother RJ looks when he's creating with the ball makes his post-New-Years' development so encouraging even if the efficiency isn't there yet. Yesterday wasn't a great night for him on paper, but the way he was knifing through the Mavs defense and using his penetration to create open looks for teammates on the perimeter, was more exciting than any 18-7-4 night (on 7-16 shooting) should be.

It's still a little shocking to me just how much less mechanical he looks now.

I don't buy the notion that we need to move Randle to let RJ take the reins, but I am starting to become more & more confident in the idea that it's only a matter of time until he takes them for himself. Since starting to cook in the spaces created by Julius' gravity, of late, RJ has been continuing to look good creating even when Randle rests & the Maple Mamba is out there with the second unit.

...with his playmaking starting to look truly impressive & his handle having radically improved.

[Sark]

Wiggins.

RJ is closer to being a bust than he is to being a serviceable player at Wiggins level.

Shame on you Sark

He's on a nice streak, but he's still below league average in just about every advanced stat there is.

[dakomish23]

Different type of players though some similarities. Wiggins is the more explosive athlete and shooter. RJ the better facilitator & rebounder.

It really depends on team fit right now. We'll see in a year b/c it seems like the Knicks finally figured out that they should be running it through RJ way more as he gets everyone involved.

[cpower]

Barrett is not good right now?

I think he was saying that because RJ isn't efficient yet in this larger role, he isn't yet a good higher volume creator. Not that he's a bad NBAer in general; as we saw last year that RJ can be efficient in the kind of smaller role that Wiggins has been filling this year.

That not what he said. If he said RJ not better now. OK

efficiency is everything in this league, if you got below league avg TS, maybe you are doing other things but you are hurting the team in scoring. thats what i meant RJ is not good yet.

[DroseReturnChi]

Different type of players though some similarities. Wiggins is the more explosive athlete and shooter. RJ the better facilitator & rebounder.

It really depends on team fit right now. We'll see in a year b/c it seems like the Knicks finally figured out that they should be running it through RJ way more as he gets everyone involved.

rewatch how young RJ destroys team USA literally by himself. nba busts dont have games like those.
rj is having a learning curve but his potential is very high perennial all nba. wiggins had similar potential but wolves ruined him to the point he is what he is.

[cgf]

Not trying to argue RJ vs Wiggins, but this was the most recent RJ thread to bump. #s are either from this ringer article ( https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/3/22/22989504/nba-lottery-teams-knicks-spurs-rockets ) or can be figured out just from perusing Barrett's gamelog:


Efficiency as a self-creator will be the next step for RJ and the one that will ultimately determine if he can become a title-caliber Robin (or even more) someday. That said, since the new year, Barrett has been averaging around 24ppg, 6rpg, & 3.5apg (vs 2.5TOs).

...doing so by shooting 38% from 3 & increasing his pts/drive (.524 vs .594), while almost doubling his drives per game (8.2 vs 16). Finally confident at this level in his handle, footwork, & offhand, the 21yo Barrett no longer looks like a robot on the court.

He even had a strong showing without Julius last night; when he went 10-19 (3-7 from 3) for 30pts, 3rebs, 3asts, 1stl, & 2TOs, while leading us to a wire-to-wire win over Charlotte...in the prior 3 games w/o Randle (against ATL, TOR, & OKC) RJ had struggled; going 4-20 from 3, posting 13 TOs to just 9 assists, and combining for -30 as "the man" in those 3 previous Randle-less performances.


So far it's a minuscule sample size and he was only really good in 1 of those 4 matches without Julius...that one coming against a hornets squad that seemed to have little interest in playing any defense on the night...but the kid just keeps developing faster than I hoped he would; so why shouldn't learning to create efficiently, come to him much quicker than I expect?

[Woodsanity]

RJ's efficiency numbers are around the same as Wiggins numbers in Minny. Wiggins numbers are inflated now due to playing on the Warriors. I rather have RJ now and much much rather have RJ later.

Yes RJ is not that efficient but he is still young and he does not have much help on offense.

[Vampirate]

RJ, Wiggins is easily the better 3P shooter atm, but he plays along side Steph which boosts his efficiency.

What can't be explained is why Wiggins is one of the worst free throw shooters now. The guy is shooting 63.5% at the FT line.

Overall while Wiggins is having a better season efficiency wise (except at the FT line, even RJ's pedestrian FT shooting beats him here easily)

I think RJ just does more than Wiggins overall, better rebounder, passer, and Wiggins is simply extremely fortunate to have landed on the Warriors. Wiggins on any other team and I don't think this is a contest.