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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#141 » by playa-hater » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:03 pm

Hal14 wrote:Box and One has started pumping out scouting report vids. Here's Jordan Hall.

Man, it's crazy. The way he does his vids, I fall in love with the prospect in the beginning, thinking they're a lottery pick and then when he gets to the weaknesses section I'm thinking there's no way he could play in the NBA lol



Hall is currently projected to go in the 40-55 range..


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Post#142 » by djFan71 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:57 pm

Hal14 wrote:Box and One has started pumping out scouting report vids. Here's Jordan Hall.

Man, it's crazy. The way he does his vids, I fall in love with the prospect in the beginning, thinking they're a lottery pick and then when he gets to the weaknesses section I'm thinking there's no way he could play in the NBA lol

Hall is currently projected to go in the 40-55 range..

That D may move him off my binkie list. Harrison Ingram up now, but I haven't watched it yet. Justin Lewis interests me as well.
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Post#143 » by Hal14 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:32 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Box and One has started pumping out scouting report vids. Here's Jordan Hall.

Man, it's crazy. The way he does his vids, I fall in love with the prospect in the beginning, thinking they're a lottery pick and then when he gets to the weaknesses section I'm thinking there's no way he could play in the NBA lol

Hall is currently projected to go in the 40-55 range..

That D may move him off my binkie list. Harrison Ingram up now, but I haven't watched it yet. Justin Lewis interests me as well.

Yeah, the D is even more concerning cause he's in the A-10 and not even a high major conference. It's like, if you can't stay in front of guys in the A-10, then the D would probably look even worse if he was in the SEC.. And one of the only games he had all year vs a high major team, he shot really poorly vs USC..

Which means there's a good chance Hall is there when we pick. But yeah, I think I'd probably pass - especially with the huge emphasis on defense this team has now.

I think the things Brad is looking for in a draft pick:

-Defense
-Toughness/edge
-Size
-Shooting
-Character/work ethic

Obviously he likes draft and stash guys for roster flexibility, too..
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Post#144 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:26 pm

Looking at different mock drafts to see who is currently projected to go to Boston:
USA Today - Marcus Bingham
Tankathon - Iverson Molinar
NBADraft.net - Hugo Besson
nbadraftroom.com - Christian Braun
ESPN - Drew Timme

Out of the lot, only Braun looks like a Brad Stevens pick.
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Post#145 » by Hal14 » Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:28 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Looking at different mock drafts to see who is currently projected to go to Boston:
USA Today - Marcus Bingham
Tankathon - Iverson Molinar
NBADraft.net - Hugo Besson
nbadraftroom.com - Christian Braun
ESPN - Drew Timme

Out of the lot, only Braun looks like a Brad Stevens pick.

Yes - Braun could be a good fit.
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Post#146 » by Hal14 » Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:40 am

Today's sleeper special!

Darryl Morsell.

6'5" wing but plays bigger than that with the high motor, high energy, strong frame - can't find a wingspan but pretty sure it's at least 6'10".

Justin Lewis (Morsell's teammate on Marquette) keeps getting picked by us in the recent mocks on Tankathon. While Lewis has a higher ceiling than Morsell (since he is taller and had higher scoring average despite being 3 years younger), Lewis doesn't look like he's that good on defense. He's still young, so he could improve...but maybe he won't.

What we do know for sure, is Morsell was Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year in 2021.

Morsell has a strong frame. He is really quick. Can handle the ball, shoot off the dribble (from 3 or from mid range), take it to the rack (so he's a 3 level scorer) shot 35% from 3 this season.

One thing that's impressive is his 3 pt % jumped from 25% on just 2 attempts per game last season to 35% on 4 attempts per game this season. This shows a crazy work ethic, that he was able to improve his shot so much from last season to this season.

Did I mention he was Big 10 defensive player of the year last season?

Oh and he just turned 23 years old. Which means he's pretty much a finished product - not like we're drafting some young 19 or 20 year old kid who's gonna need all kind of time to develop.

Morsell isn't even getting drafted in most mocks - he's super underrated..

He's a good passer too..







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Post#147 » by Hal14 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:00 pm

Cool article about arguably the best pure shooter in the draft: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33440976/hyunjung-lee-hopes-journey-south-korea-davidson-adds-next-stop-nba

Yes, they compare him to Duncan Robinson in the article. More realistically, Lee is kind of like Sam Hauser, but IMO Lee is a much better passer, he's quicker and a better defender.

Here's some clips:
Read on Twitter


Seems like a decent chance he'll still be there when we pick, but IDK he might go in the one of the last few picks before ours. However, latest Tankathon mock has him going undrafted which seems crazy to me but it's a deep draft class. This mock actually has us taking Alondes Williams - that would be nuts, I have him as a top 15 player in the whole draft class lol

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#148 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:06 pm

Read on Twitter

Do we have a 2nd rounder? Is the next Jokic or next Manu in this draft?
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Post#149 » by djFan71 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:11 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Do we have a 2nd rounder? Is the next Jokic or next Manu in this draft?

We should pre-fire Brad for getting only one of Jokic and Manu with his one measly pick.
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Post#150 » by Hal14 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:29 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Do we have a 2nd rounder?

Yes. We have a 2nd rounder. Currently projected to be in the 49-51 range.

zoyathedestroya wrote:Is the next Jokic or next Manu in this draft?

Possibly - you never know. In addition to Jokic and Manu, there's also hall of famer Ben Wallace who went undrafted. And the draft classes in 2021 and 2022 are deeper in terms of amount of quality players than there were back when those guys were draft eligible.

But more realistically, I'm thinking we just grab someone like a Gabe Brown/Vince Williams/Jake Laravia/Ron Harper Jr/Christian Braun/David Roddy/Darryl Morsell/David Jones type - someone with good size, who is tough, physical, switchable defender who can hit shots. A guy with the potential to give us some solid minutes off the bench and maybe even earn a spot in the starting lineup, eventually..
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Post#151 » by djFan71 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:23 pm

Hal14 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Do we have a 2nd rounder?

Yes. We have a 2nd rounder. Currently projected to be in the 49-51 range.

zoyathedestroya wrote:Is the next Jokic or next Manu in this draft?

Possibly - you never know. In addition to Jokic and Manu, there's also hall of famer Ben Wallace who went undrafted. And the draft classes in 2021 and 2022 are deeper in terms of amount of quality players than there were back when those guys were draft eligible.

But more realistically, I'm thinking we just grab someone like a Gabe Brown/Vince Williams/Jake Laravia/Ron Harper Jr/Christian Braun/David Roddy/Darryl Morsell type - someone with good size, who is tough, physical, switchable defender who can hit shots.

Do you have thoughts on Keon Ellis or Dereon Seabron? I feel like we need some creation ability. They both look rough off ball, but for a bench guy could be OK and you hope they learn to shoot. And we know Ime'd make them play D before getting in, so I'm not worried about that. But, with Smart/White in the same boat shooting-wise.... might not be the best idea either.

Neither might last to us anyways. Would love to buy a pick early 2nd, but so would everybody, lol.
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Post#152 » by Hal14 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:57 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Do we have a 2nd rounder?

Yes. We have a 2nd rounder. Currently projected to be in the 49-51 range.

zoyathedestroya wrote:Is the next Jokic or next Manu in this draft?

Possibly - you never know. In addition to Jokic and Manu, there's also hall of famer Ben Wallace who went undrafted. And the draft classes in 2021 and 2022 are deeper in terms of amount of quality players than there were back when those guys were draft eligible.

But more realistically, I'm thinking we just grab someone like a Gabe Brown/Vince Williams/Jake Laravia/Ron Harper Jr/Christian Braun/David Roddy/Darryl Morsell type - someone with good size, who is tough, physical, switchable defender who can hit shots.

Do you have thoughts on Keon Ellis or Dereon Seabron? I feel like we need some creation ability. They both look rough off ball, but for a bench guy could be OK and you hope they learn to shoot. And we know Ime'd make them play D before getting in, so I'm not worried about that. But, with Smart/White in the same boat shooting-wise.... might not be the best idea either.

Neither might last to us anyways. Would love to buy a pick early 2nd, but so would everybody, lol.

Keon Ellis - yeah, he's a guy i suppose I could've lumped in with that group i just rattled off. I like his defense - long, athletic. good, switchable defender. He checks the box in terms of defense, length and athleticism. But he's limited in terms of creating off the dribble. Ellis is a streaky shooter. But overall, he's just as good (maybe slightly better) shooter than some of the guys i named, like Morsell for example. Both Ellis and Morsell are pretty old too - which of course means less room to develop but on the plus side, more ready to come in and contribute right away. A big difference between Ellis and Morsell is frame - Ellis is really skinny, like one of the skinnier guys in the draft whereas Morsell has a very sturdy frame, almost built like a running back or even full back. With that being said, Ellis is a little quicker. So yeah, Ellis is a guy worth keeping an eye on and could possibly be a good fit here - will likely be available when we pick. Certainly worth keeping an eye out for Alabama (Ellis) and Marquette (Morsell) in march madness..

Seabron - interesting player. Has a decent amount of upside when you combine his length (6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan) + the fact that he's as good as anyone in the draft at getting to the rim and finishing at the rim. If he goes to the right team, works on his jumper and his defense, he could really turn into a really good NBA player. But that's a big IF. In the meantime, he kind of reminds me of like a 6'7" Dennis Schroder..Seabron is really good at getting to the rim but a) not good at much else and b) is that the best thing for the TEAM if he is really good at going isolation, taking his man off the dribble and playing hero ball? Seems like defenses started to adjust and towards end of the season, Seabron wasn't getting to the rim as easily anymore - seems like a decent chance he goes back to school for 1 more year to try and work on his game more and maybe be a 1st round (or early 2nd round) pick next year..
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Post#153 » by djFan71 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:01 am

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djFan71 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Yes. We have a 2nd rounder. Currently projected to be in the 49-51 range.


Possibly - you never know. In addition to Jokic and Manu, there's also hall of famer Ben Wallace who went undrafted. And the draft classes in 2021 and 2022 are deeper in terms of amount of quality players than there were back when those guys were draft eligible.

But more realistically, I'm thinking we just grab someone like a Gabe Brown/Vince Williams/Jake Laravia/Ron Harper Jr/Christian Braun/David Roddy/Darryl Morsell type - someone with good size, who is tough, physical, switchable defender who can hit shots.

Do you have thoughts on Keon Ellis or Dereon Seabron? I feel like we need some creation ability. They both look rough off ball, but for a bench guy could be OK and you hope they learn to shoot. And we know Ime'd make them play D before getting in, so I'm not worried about that. But, with Smart/White in the same boat shooting-wise.... might not be the best idea either.

Neither might last to us anyways. Would love to buy a pick early 2nd, but so would everybody, lol.

Keon Ellis - yeah, he's a guy i suppose I could've lumped in with that group i just rattled off. I like his defense - long, athletic. good, switchable defender. He checks the box in terms of defense, length and athleticism. But he's limited in terms of creating off the dribble. Ellis is a streaky shooter. But overall, he's just as good (maybe slightly better) shooter than some of the guys i named, like Morsell for example. Both Ellis and Morsell are pretty old too - which of course means less room to develop but on the plus side, more ready to come in and contribute right away. A big difference between Ellis and Morsell is frame - Ellis is really skinny, like one of the skinnier guys in the draft whereas Morsell has a very sturdy frame, almost built like a running back or even full back. With that being said, Ellis is a little quicker. So yeah, Ellis is a guy worth keeping an eye on and could possibly be a good fit here - will likely be available when we pick. Certainly worth keeping an eye out for Alabama (Ellis) and Marquette (Morsell) in march madness..

Seabron - interesting player. Has a decent amount of upside when you combine his length (6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan) + the fact that he's as good as anyone in the draft at getting to the rim and finishing at the rim. If he goes to the right team, works on his jumper and his defense, he could really turn into a really good NBA player. But that's a big IF. In the meantime, he kind of reminds me of like a 6'7" Dennis Schroder..Seabron is really good at getting to the rim but a) not good at much else and b) is that the best thing for the TEAM if he is really good at going isolation, taking his man off the dribble and playing hero ball? Seems like defenses started to adjust and towards end of the season, Seabron wasn't getting to the rim as easily anymore - seems like a decent chance he goes back to school for 1 more year to try and work on his game more and maybe be a 1st round (or early 2nd round) pick next year..

Cool, thanks. I've mainly just read about guys so far and length/d potential always intrigue me. I'll eventually watch some as we get closer, but just kinda feeling things out for now.

I had Justin Lewis on my list too but the D didn't sound like a strength necessarily and then you called it out too, so I'm slightly less interested. I was kind of hoping he'd be a longer Grant type.
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Post#154 » by max powers » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:32 pm

I really like this guy in the second round if we can get him. Tankathon has him going 49 we pick 51
https://www.tankathon.com/players/gabriele-procida
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Post#155 » by moonie_mcgee » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:32 am

Keep an eye on UConn's Andre Jackson next season.
He's moving to the point next season replacing RJ Cole.
Jackson, at 6'6, is a great athlete, passer and defender.
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Post#156 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:12 pm

max powers wrote:I really like this guy in the second round if we can get him. Tankathon has him going 49 we pick 51
https://www.tankathon.com/players/gabriele-procida

I believed we had a brief discussion about him earlier in the thread. I have trouble believing he'll fall far enough in the draft for the Celtics to get him but if he's there he would be my pick for sure. If there's one thing we know from Brad Stevens' tenure is that he likes shooting with size. The Celtics have also picked multiple draft and stash candidates in the second rounds recently as that gives them increased roster flexibility. So I could definitely see him being someone Boston is interested in.
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Post#157 » by djFan71 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:14 pm

The Ringer dropped their draft guide:
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

They only do top 30, but fun for the draft junkies.
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Post#158 » by Hal14 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:17 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
max powers wrote:I really like this guy in the second round if we can get him. Tankathon has him going 49 we pick 51
https://www.tankathon.com/players/gabriele-procida

I believed we had a brief discussion about him earlier in the thread. I have trouble believing he'll fall far enough in the draft for the Celtics to get him but if he's there he would be my pick for sure. If there's one thing we know from Brad Stevens' tenure is that he likes shooting with size. The Celtics have also picked multiple draft and stash candidates in the second rounds recently as that gives them increased roster flexibility. So I could definitely see him being someone Boston is interested in.

Yeah I don't think Procida ill still be there when we pick, but if he falls then you definitely gotta consider him.
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Post#159 » by sam_I_am » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:46 pm

I think we should draft the next Steph Curry…….Katelyn Clark out of Iowa. Obviously not serious but that girl can flat out shoot.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#160 » by celticfan42487 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:40 pm

djFan71 wrote:The Ringer dropped their draft guide:
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

They only do top 30, but fun for the draft junkies.


I truly enjoy their presentation for it, still miss the in depth of the draftexpress youtube videos

And crying fully that we don't have a first round pick for me to pine on from this draft lol.
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