How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason?

[daoneandonly]

Yes money aren't a problem in our cap situation, anyway we can trade Brunson everyday. Pay him.

Sitting Luka a couple games and let Brunson lead the team would increase his numbers and his trade value in 1 month. No problem.

I'd argue DFS is more valuable than THJ, he had no problem taking a smaller contract. If JB has an overflated self worth, then we're better off without him. He was a huge reason we lost the LAC series, and we dont owe him a thing. We passed on a better player in Trent Jr to draft him, so its not like the Mavs havent done right by him.

DFS made his choice, he got the maximum ocntract he could get, Mavs couldn't offer more under the CBA, he could've waited till the offseason and receive more, but he preferred the guarantee, Brunson expects more the 55/4 so he made the gamble.
I agree with you about the Clippers series, I prefer Mavs work a S&T (Brunson needs to agree of course), for Sexton, but Clippers are bad matchup for him, against the Suns for example he should do better.

Well he barely showed up against Utah, and that may end up being who we play. I like JB, but he does have tunnel vision and he is always going to be a defensive liability. We need to start making an effort of going after 2 way players, not just guys who are only good on one end

[arkuo]

I dont get the sentimental attachment to JB. I mean, if the team was willing to let Porzingis go, then JB isn't safe too. Having Dinwiddie shrunk his market for a big pay day. Without Dinwiddie he could have hostaged Nico Harrison for up to $25M per IMO. Now it's smaller because he lost leverage. if he accepts a bench role at a lower contract, I think he's worth keeping. He can mimic the Luka offense off the bench. He's nice, but not $20M nice.

[41Dirk41]

I dont get the sentimental attachment to JB. I mean, if the team was willing to let Porzingis go, then JB isn't safe too. Having Dinwiddie shrunk his market for a big pay day. Without Dinwiddie he could have hostaged Nico Harrison for up to $25M per IMO. Now it's smaller because he lost leverage. if he accepts a bench role at a lower contract, I think he's worth keeping. He can mimic the Luka offense off the bench. He's nice, but not $20M nice.

There is not sentimental attachment to JB, Nico has proven that he has no heart. And that's **** good.
It's basketball and a business , not a family.

KP was dumped with no mercy. Brunson could be traded with no mercy if the opportunities are good for us.

We can't lose him for nothing, this is the most important thing. Then we will see what happens.

Dinwiddie has to prove in PO what he worths, i think there is a possibility that he can make Bruson available for trade next summer.

We desperately need a big and a very good wing... If we could flip Brunson+Green+a couple of firsts+filler for those kind of players that's an home run.

Adding Turner and Grant make us a contender instantly.

[daoneandonly]

I dont get the sentimental attachment to JB. I mean, if the team was willing to let Porzingis go, then JB isn't safe too. Having Dinwiddie shrunk his market for a big pay day. Without Dinwiddie he could have hostaged Nico Harrison for up to $25M per IMO. Now it's smaller because he lost leverage. if he accepts a bench role at a lower contract, I think he's worth keeping. He can mimic the Luka offense off the bench. He's nice, but not $20M nice.

There is not sentimental attachment to JB, Nico has proven that he has no heart. And that's **** good.
It's basketball and a business , not a family.

KP was dumped with no mercy. Brunson could be traded with no mercy if the opportunities are good for us.

We can't lose him for nothing, this is the most important thing. Then we will see what happens.

Dinwiddie has to prove in PO what he worths, i think there is a possibility that he can make Bruson available for trade next summer.

We desperately need a big and a very good wing... If we could flip Brunson+Green+a couple of firsts+filler for those kind of players that's an home run.

Adding Turner and Grant make us a contender instantly.

I'd love Turner, no interest in Grant. He wants max money and to be a primary offensive option, he's not built for either of those things

[41Dirk41]

I dont get the sentimental attachment to JB. I mean, if the team was willing to let Porzingis go, then JB isn't safe too. Having Dinwiddie shrunk his market for a big pay day. Without Dinwiddie he could have hostaged Nico Harrison for up to $25M per IMO. Now it's smaller because he lost leverage. if he accepts a bench role at a lower contract, I think he's worth keeping. He can mimic the Luka offense off the bench. He's nice, but not $20M nice.

There is not sentimental attachment to JB, Nico has proven that he has no heart. And that's **** good.
It's basketball and a business , not a family.

KP was dumped with no mercy. Brunson could be traded with no mercy if the opportunities are good for us.

We can't lose him for nothing, this is the most important thing. Then we will see what happens.

Dinwiddie has to prove in PO what he worths, i think there is a possibility that he can make Bruson available for trade next summer.

We desperately need a big and a very good wing... If we could flip Brunson+Green+a couple of firsts+filler for those kind of players that's an home run.

Adding Turner and Grant make us a contender instantly.

I'd love Turner, no interest in Grant. He wants max money and to be a primary offensive option, he's not built for either of those things

I don't care about money, even Cuban can pay him 100M per year it's good. Not my money.

He is a headcase for sure but if he wants win then here it's the right place for him.
After those 2 seasons hope he is understand his role.

[arkuo]

Adding Turner and Grant make us a contender instantly.

I have a feeling Mavs will chase after Caris Levert for a starting wing player. They asked about him but Indiana's price was too high. He is UFA in 2023. I expect a recruiting party composed of Dinwiddie and Jared Dudley to convince him to come over. they were part of that fun Brooklyn team. Way before Kyrie brought all that depression and drama to the team.

Levert can handle the ball and create his own shot. Score all on 3 levels. He's like a 6'7 version of Dinwiddie with lesser playmaking. I think if you surround Luka with better talent like these guys, instead of THJ and DFS, there is more guys who can score freely. If not Jokic in 2023, then I'm campaigning for Levert + Myles Turner instead. Both guys are UFA.

[fuller4379]

They will not get equal value back for him in a sign and trade for Brunson. The best things the Mavs can do is sign him unless the money gets stupid. At that point they can trade him during the season if someone else is interested.

[dygaction]

Does it sound reasonable at $60M/4yr with a 4th yr player option? I am afraid it might become a bad contract @ $80M/4yr if he were to play a diminished role in the future.

[HairyGOATee]

Does it sound reasonable at $60M/4yr with a 4th yr player option? I am afraid it might become a bad contract @ $80M/4yr if he were to play a diminished role in the future.

$60 million is too little. $80 million should be fine, but maybe the Mavs can negotiate him down to $18 million a year, so $72 million over 4 years.

He's only 25, so you can justify paying him more, and he has earned a big pay raise too.

[aad]

Do you think mavs still sign him now that they got spencer dinwiddie

[arkuo]

Do you think mavs still sign him now that they got spencer dinwiddie

I think the Mavs can still keep him as a PG off the bench. For the right price. I think Brunson has to get back to them with some team with a ridiculously high offer for Cuban to back off. Any team paying Brunson $80M or more will probably regret it though. I dont think Brunson has the same value league wide as some Mavs fans put him to be. Internally to Mavs fans and the Mavs per se, he's a rotation piece. League wide they probably view him as a role player who is asking for Malcolm Brogdon money. Two different sides.

[arkuo]

Marquis Daniels once averaged 13 pts 4 rebs and 2 ast. I didnt see Cuban preparing his check book for 80 mils. Internally I think Brunson is worth more to the Mavs than he is to the rest of the league.

The choices for the Mavs are slim. It's superstars or high level role players. Nico knows the Mavs will be in a tough spot trying to get American superstars to come over and take a back seat for a Sloevnian kid. That's just not gonna happen in any scenario. So the next best thing is high level role players like Dinwiddie.

So I guess my stand is if Cuban cant find any sign and trade scenarios that can bring a good center back, then I'm ok with signing Brunson back. Option A is sign and trade for value. Option B is sign him back and hope for a $5M MLE center to make a difference. Although the talent disparity of a $5M MLE center should not be too far from a Dwight Powell TBH. You should be getting a similar player in a bigger body.

[Mr B]

I have feeling there will be some kind of sign and trade worked out where Brunson goes to NY and Mitchell Robinson comes to Dallas.

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[41Dirk41]

I have feeling there will be some kind of sign and trade worked out where Brunson goes to NY and Mitchell Robinson comes to Dallas.

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I don't see him a lot of time but seems that every time we faced NY he destroys us. Ok yes our bigs are trash

I talked to some Knicks fan and they aren't so happy for him, low BBIQ and too injury prone.

Anyone?

[Mavrelous]

I have feeling there will be some kind of sign and trade worked out where Brunson goes to NY and Mitchell Robinson comes to Dallas.

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Only way is if he takes the tax MLE, S&T with Brunson is extremely difficult, and S&T w/o Brunson triggers hardcap, which means no Brunson.

[Maverick41]

I have feeling there will be some kind of sign and trade worked out where Brunson goes to NY and Mitchell Robinson comes to Dallas.

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I don't see him a lot of time but seems that every time we faced NY he destroys us. Ok yes our bigs are trash

I talked to some Knicks fan and they aren't so happy for him, low BBIQ and too injury prone.

Anyone?

I agree that his BBIQ is not the best and he is injury prone. Usually only good for 60ish games a season. Certainly has faults but the things he's good at (rim running and defense), he's really good at.

Most Knicks fans actually like him and want him back. The problem for most Knicks fans is that they don't really want him back at 15-20 mil/season in a similar manner to how we Mavs fans are worried about giving Brunson that same type of contract.

Personally I would not give Robinson a 15-20mil/season contract either but 10-12 mil, we should definitely consider.

[Mr B]

I have feeling there will be some kind of sign and trade worked out where Brunson goes to NY and Mitchell Robinson comes to Dallas.

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Only way is if he takes the tax MLE, S&T with Brunson is extremely difficult, and S&T w/o Brunson triggers hardcap, which means no Brunson.

Why would he have to fit into the tax MLE if the Mavs have Bird Rights on Brunson?

[Mavrelous]

Why would he have to fit into the tax MLE if the Mavs have Bird Rights on Brunson?

There's a rule is S&T called base year compensation, it makes S&T players with small salary etremely difficult.

[Maverick41]

Why would he have to fit into the tax MLE if the Mavs have Bird Rights on Brunson?

There's a rule is S&T called base year compensation, it makes S&T players with small salary etremely difficult.

Yeah BYC makes it really tough. Just as an example for those that don't understand BYC, if we SnT Brunson at 20mil/yr, the most we can take back is 50% or 10 mil/yr. I think the most likely scenario with NY is still:

10 mil TPE for 1 of Kemba, Noel OR Reddish + filler (NY clears 9-10 mil cap)
THEN
SnT Brunson (20 mil) for Burks + 23 FRP (10 mil outgoing to be able to absorb the difference of Brunson's contract)

It's possible to double SnT for Robinson but we'd have to pay him the same thing as Brunson which would be an overpay if Brunson gets 15-20 mil/yr.

[arkuo]

Why would he have to fit into the tax MLE if the Mavs have Bird Rights on Brunson?

There's a rule is S&T called base year compensation, it makes S&T players with small salary etremely difficult.

Yeah BYC makes it really tough. Just as an example for those that don't understand BYC, if we SnT Brunson at 20mil/yr, the most we can take back is 50% or 10 mil/yr. I think the most likely scenario with NY is still:

10 mil TPE for 1 of Kemba, Noel OR Reddish + filler (NY clears 9-10 mil cap)
THEN
SnT Brunson (20 mil) for Burks + 23 FRP (10 mil outgoing to be able to absorb the difference of Brunson's contract)

It's possible to double SnT for Robinson but we'd have to pay him the same thing as Brunson which would be an overpay if Brunson gets 15-20 mil/yr.

The BYC makes things a bit more complicated. The simplest offseason then is:

1. Re-sign Brunson
2. Sign a center using the taxpayer MLE ($6M)
3. Try to break down the THJ contract into 2 other players (if needed)

For the tax payer MLE center, someone cheap like Frank Kaminsky can hold the line. Javale Mcgee types.