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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#161 » by Jikkle » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:53 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:I am really nervous about the fact that we haven't moved Jimmy yet. If they end up just cutting him, tough to not see that as completely misplaying their hand.

Remember when I said like three weeks ago that I wasn't going to stress about what happens with Jimmy until it happens? I lied. I'm officially stressing. Though that's in large part because I figured he'd be gone by now.


I'm guessing they take whatever the best offer on the table is before the league year starts Wednesday.

Don't see him getting cut because I do believe the Colts will give something for him I just think the 9ers are hoping another team jumps in and starts bidding to drive up the cost. Probably hoping Watson picks a team tomorrow and the team spurned between the Panthers and Saints jumps into the Jimmy G fray.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#162 » by Jikkle » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:00 am

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GS Warriors 1 wrote:Essentially, a 2-year deal worth $26.7M. He's a pretty good corner, definitely someone that can be the best one you have on a good team. They really needed a starter opposite Moseley. Thomas flashed well, at times, but better as a depth piece at this point. Wouldn't surprise me if they re-signed Verrett on the cheap and play him the slot. I think they have to look for a Guard now.


I don’t think they look at a guard, this is why they spent a 2nd on Banks. They saw this coming.


Wouldn't surprise me if they lean towards offensive line in the draft and I wouldn't hate it if the 1st 3 picks are offensive line.

They need a Center to start grooming to replace Mack since next season could be his last and they need upgrades to Brunskill and McGlinchey asap. Not to mention Banks is an unknown so it remains to be seen if he's the solution at LG.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#163 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:18 pm

Dodub wrote:I kind of hope that they don’t spend on a WR. It’s pretty clear that they are going after a WR who can stretch the field. There are plenty of those in the draft. Christian Watson maybe.


I don't think there's a chance Watson makes it to their pick in the second after his Senior Bowl and Combine performances. But there's plenty of speed in this draft class. Any FA addition should be a minimum contract.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#164 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:20 pm

The Ward signing is pretty darn interesting. It's a lot of money, but Ward is a good player at a position of need. What's particularly interesting is that Ward excels in man coverage, but is a bit shakier in zone. We play a lot of zone, so it will be interesting to see if we start going away from that. The team had been playing more man coverage on crucial downs as the season progressed, so this may be an indication of a change in philosophy.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#165 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:21 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:I am really nervous about the fact that we haven't moved Jimmy yet. If they end up just cutting him, tough to not see that as completely misplaying their hand.

Remember when I said like three weeks ago that I wasn't going to stress about what happens with Jimmy until it happens? I lied. I'm officially stressing. Though that's in large part because I figured he'd be gone by now.


I'm guessing they take whatever the best offer on the table is before the league year starts Wednesday.

Don't see him getting cut because I do believe the Colts will give something for him I just think the 9ers are hoping another team jumps in and starts bidding to drive up the cost. Probably hoping Watson picks a team tomorrow and the team spurned between the Panthers and Saints jumps into the Jimmy G fray.


We shall see. Hard to imagine them getting even a second at this point, but we'll see. Let's hope they prove me wrong.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#166 » by Dodub » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:04 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:The Ward signing is pretty darn interesting. It's a lot of money, but Ward is a good player at a position of need. What's particularly interesting is that Ward excels in man coverage, but is a bit shakier in zone. We play a lot of zone, so it will be interesting to see if we start going away from that. The team had been playing more man coverage on crucial downs as the season progressed, so this may be an indication of a change in philosophy.


We’ve been drafting guys who excel in press man coverage. We’re clearly looking to add more of those concepts to our defense. I would imagine whoever we add at safety will excel in man coverage as well.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#167 » by Dodub » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:06 pm

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Jikkle wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:I am really nervous about the fact that we haven't moved Jimmy yet. If they end up just cutting him, tough to not see that as completely misplaying their hand.

Remember when I said like three weeks ago that I wasn't going to stress about what happens with Jimmy until it happens? I lied. I'm officially stressing. Though that's in large part because I figured he'd be gone by now.


I'm guessing they take whatever the best offer on the table is before the league year starts Wednesday.

Don't see him getting cut because I do believe the Colts will give something for him I just think the 9ers are hoping another team jumps in and starts bidding to drive up the cost. Probably hoping Watson picks a team tomorrow and the team spurned between the Panthers and Saints jumps into the Jimmy G fray.


We shall see. Hard to imagine them getting even a second at this point, but we'll see. Let's hope they prove me wrong.


I still believe that there’s more than one suitor at the moment. The Colts are the obvious one, but I believe that the Saints are also very interested. The issue with New Orleans is that they are also in on the Watson sweepstakes. I’m hoping that Watson goes to Carolina like it appears he will.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#168 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:45 pm

Ford restructure means he's sticking around for at least one more year. Don't love continuing to kick his cap hit down the road, but we were relatively unlikely to outright cut him this year as it only would have saved like $1.5 million. And who knows? Maybe he can actually get back on the field at some point.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#169 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:46 pm

Dodub wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
I'm guessing they take whatever the best offer on the table is before the league year starts Wednesday.

Don't see him getting cut because I do believe the Colts will give something for him I just think the 9ers are hoping another team jumps in and starts bidding to drive up the cost. Probably hoping Watson picks a team tomorrow and the team spurned between the Panthers and Saints jumps into the Jimmy G fray.


We shall see. Hard to imagine them getting even a second at this point, but we'll see. Let's hope they prove me wrong.


I still believe that there’s more than one suitor at the moment. The Colts are the obvious one, but I believe that the Saints are also very interested. The issue with New Orleans is that they are also in on the Watson sweepstakes. I’m hoping that Watson goes to Carolina like it appears he will.


Especially with the Ward signing, we have no choice but to trade or cut him, basically today. If I were the Colts, I might be content just to sit back and force the Niners' hand. If they lose out on him, they can go get Bridgewater as a steadying vet presence.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#170 » by wco81 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:55 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Ford restructure means he's sticking around for at least one more year. Don't love continuing to kick his cap hit down the road, but we were relatively unlikely to outright cut him this year as it only would have saved like $1.5 million. And who knows? Maybe he can actually get back on the field at some point.


WTH?

Did he even practice last season?

He has no chance of playing this upcoming season either?

Was thinking they might pick up Zadarius Smith.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#171 » by arich35 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:57 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Ford restructure means he's sticking around for at least one more year. Don't love continuing to kick his cap hit down the road, but we were relatively unlikely to outright cut him this year as it only would have saved like $1.5 million. And who knows? Maybe he can actually get back on the field at some point.


If he could even play 10-15 snaps a game it would really help this defense. Maybe is rehab is going well enough they were okay to gamble on him being healthy enough to play
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#172 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:27 pm

They're voidable seasons, so we can push money into those years, but presumably cut him without a cap penalty. It's really just smoke and mirrors to clear up cap space this year, but obviously it reduces the cap space the next two years. Ford was almost certainly going to be around next year anyway, as the savings from cutting him weren't really worth giving up the potential benefit of the off-chance that he could actually take the field again. It's just capology, just not sure it's the best call when we have some very large contracts coming up.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#173 » by Dodub » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:41 pm

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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#174 » by Dodub » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:00 pm

Someone in desperate need of clicks made up the rumor that we are meeting with DeShaun Watson. Every beat writer shut that down real quick.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#175 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:12 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:I am really nervous about the fact that we haven't moved Jimmy yet. If they end up just cutting him, tough to not see that as completely misplaying their hand.

Remember when I said like three weeks ago that I wasn't going to stress about what happens with Jimmy until it happens? I lied. I'm officially stressing. Though that's in large part because I figured he'd be gone by now.


I'm guessing they take whatever the best offer on the table is before the league year starts Wednesday.

Don't see him getting cut because I do believe the Colts will give something for him I just think the 9ers are hoping another team jumps in and starts bidding to drive up the cost. Probably hoping Watson picks a team tomorrow and the team spurned between the Panthers and Saints jumps into the Jimmy G fray.


We shall see. Hard to imagine them getting even a second at this point, but we'll see. Let's hope they prove me wrong.


Based on everything I've read so far, it looks like JG would already be traded if the 49ers FO was willing to drop their compensation demands for JG. They have already talked to multiple teams and reportedly were offered a second round pick. There are also reports that the 49ers FO wants two second round picks and are willing to hold out till training camp. Now that may just be a grandstanding but as time goes on they will have less leverage. Not sure what their game plan
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#176 » by Samurai » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:18 pm

Dodub wrote:
TheMonarch wrote:Seems like an overpay for Charvarius Ward


I actually think he’s on par with Carlton Davis and JC Jackson. I think Gilmore is potentially the best, but he might be finished at his age.

I actually don’t hate the signing and I’m typically more frugal

For that money, Ward obviously becomes our CB1. Who is our CB2? Is that a training camp battle between Moseley and Ambry Thomas with the "loser" becoming our nickel back? Can either one be a slot corner in case we don't re-sign K'Waun Williams?
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#177 » by Dodub » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:21 pm

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Dodub wrote:
TheMonarch wrote:Seems like an overpay for Charvarius Ward


I actually think he’s on par with Carlton Davis and JC Jackson. I think Gilmore is potentially the best, but he might be finished at his age.

I actually don’t hate the signing and I’m typically more frugal

For that money, Ward obviously becomes our CB1. Who is our CB2? Is that a training camp battle between Moseley and Ambry Thomas with the "loser" becoming our nickel back? Can either one be a slot corner in case we don't re-sign K'Waun Williams?


I’m sure it’ll be a camp battle with Thomas and Mosely. Based on last season, I would assume Mosely wins, but Thomas could make big strides in the offseason. Mosely certainly has the potential to move inside to the slot.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#178 » by Samurai » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:22 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
I'm guessing they take whatever the best offer on the table is before the league year starts Wednesday.

Don't see him getting cut because I do believe the Colts will give something for him I just think the 9ers are hoping another team jumps in and starts bidding to drive up the cost. Probably hoping Watson picks a team tomorrow and the team spurned between the Panthers and Saints jumps into the Jimmy G fray.


We shall see. Hard to imagine them getting even a second at this point, but we'll see. Let's hope they prove me wrong.


Based on everything I've read so far, it looks like JG would already be traded if the 49ers FO was willing to drop their compensation demands for JG. They have already talked to multiple teams and reportedly were offered a second round pick. There are also reports that the 49ers FO wants two second round picks and are willing to hold out till training camp. Now that may just be a grandstanding but as time goes on they will have less leverage. Not sure what their game plan

I read that rumor about the team receiving a 2nd round pick that they are "mulling over" as they allegedly wanted two 2nd round picks. That doesn't seem believable; if we actually had an offer like that then Lynch should have pounced on it so fast that it would have created an earthquake. At this stage, we are going to be lucky to get a day three pick.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#179 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:23 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
I'm guessing they take whatever the best offer on the table is before the league year starts Wednesday.

Don't see him getting cut because I do believe the Colts will give something for him I just think the 9ers are hoping another team jumps in and starts bidding to drive up the cost. Probably hoping Watson picks a team tomorrow and the team spurned between the Panthers and Saints jumps into the Jimmy G fray.


We shall see. Hard to imagine them getting even a second at this point, but we'll see. Let's hope they prove me wrong.


Based on everything I've read so far, it looks like JG would already be traded if the 49ers FO was willing to drop their compensation demands for JG. They have already talked to multiple teams and reportedly were offered a second round pick. There are also reports that the 49ers FO wants two second round picks and are willing to hold out till training camp. Now that may just be a grandstanding but as time goes on they will have less leverage. Not sure what their game plan


Not sure how they can get under the cap with him on the roster at this point.
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Re: 2022 Offseason thread 

Post#180 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:26 pm

Not a shock, but Whitworth retired. They already accounted for that by extending Notebloom, but still weakens them a bit.

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