2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

FecesOfDeath · Post #141 » by **FecesOfDeath** » Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:40 pm

Oscar Tshiebwe of Kentucky. A replacement for Tristan Thompson if the Bulls aren't keeping him.

TheSuzerain · Post #142 » by **TheSuzerain** » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:26 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Patrick Baldwin Jr and Kennedy Chandler are on my radar.

I think Chandler is closing too strong to be an option unfortunately.

Post #143 » by **Michael Jackson** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:12 am

Almost Retired wrote:He'll be long gone before we make a selection, but after watching that very entertaining Iowa v Indiana matchup yesterday I would have to say that if I was a GM with the first pick I would have to give lots of consideration to taking Keegan Murray with the first pick. He's going to be a very good wing in the NBA. He can defend 1-4. He touches all the statistical bases and has the intangibles like a high BBIQ. Maybe Banchero becomes a better pro, but Duke has produced very few superstars relative to their high profile. Maybe Chet Holmgren gains strength and mass and become a rare unicorn player. But maybe he doesn't and gets man handled at the next level. Right now my top two prospects are Murray and Jabari Smith from Auburn, who I project as a "4". And as for us it will come down to Walker Kessler or Marc Williams, depending on which one is still available when we pick.

While it is silly but Keegan drops because of his age right? The NBA draft is still really ageist at least for the top pick. I'm actually going to the sweet 16 at the UC next week and I would love to see Keegan (I'm an Iowa fan) and Jabari that day. (we have both sessions) I don't like Duke players, I never have so I would never take Banchero #1 myself. I still hate Elton Brand as a #1 pick lol. If Holmgren didn't scare me every time he moves I would consider him and I am sure he will be a fine pro but it is just to scary watching him for me lol. With Murray, I know these old players never develop in the NBA (I mean Jordan and 21 never got better and even in the Modern era guys like D Wade and Butler never did either) but sarcasm aside I just don't think, that unless he has a monster tournament that he jumps guys like Smith, Holmgren or Banchero. Not saying I wouldn't take him though. He seems like a guy who can jump in from day 1 in the NBA, the size, IQ and body are all ready.

Post #144 » by **Michael Jackson** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:21 am

TheSuzerain wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Patrick Baldwin Jr and Kennedy Chandler are on my radar.

I think Chandler is closing too strong to be an option unfortunately.

He can jump with a good run in the tournament for sure but he might still be around in the early to mid 20's. I think Baldwin fits or more immediate needs but you gotta go BPA and some of guards are going to be gone either before, during or after next season so it would be nice to have a stud on a rookie contract. Theoretically though Baldwin and Pat could build a Masai type build with the raptors though in more position less basketball potentially, although I still have no clue how Pat fleshes out and of course same with Baldwin

Rose2Boozer · Post #145 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:49 pm

Great time of year for prospect watching. There's a lot of interesting guys who are not necessarily lottery level prospects. Below are a list of my March Madness Tournament favorites.

David Roddy(Colorado State)
Kris Murray(Iowa)
E.J Liddell(Ohio State)
Justin Lewis(Marquette)
Walker Kessler(Auburn)
Mark Williams(Duke)
Wendell Moore(Duke)
Trace Jackson-Davis(Indiana)

Rowland Garrett · Post #146 » by **Rowland Garrett** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:12 pm

OK guys, help this old timer out, slickly speaking about guys the Bulls might target, which players on what teams should I check out in the tourney. Not a CBB observer.

Thanks.

Almost Retired · Post #147 » by **Almost Retired** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:11 pm

Considering where we will probably be drafting, in the low 20s, and that our needs are clearly size related, you have to look at potential big men. Pure "4s", 4/5's or pure centers. I'm not high on the potential "4s" in this draft except at the top of the board. And with Vooch looking like he is past his peak then we have to get help at the "5". We have to look at Walker Kessler. Which means you try to catch the Auburn games. You get the added advantage of also watching Jabari Smith of Auburn that will probably go top 3. The other center to watch is Mark Williams of Duke. Duke has other potential top picks including Banchero. Plus it is Coach K's swan song tournament. So you want to watch Duke games. Personally I like watching the Tournament. Lots of drama. Very entertaining games. The one loss and out always leaves open the real possibility of unforseen upsets. In a 7 games series the better team is almost always going to win. Not so in college. One bad shooting night and even the top seeded teams can down to defeat. Look at the Illini last year.

Rowland Garrett · Post #148 » by **Rowland Garrett** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:51 pm

Almost Retired wrote:Considering where we will probably be drafting, in the low 20s, and that our needs are clearly size related, you have to look at potential big men. Pure "4s", 4/5's or pure centers. I'm not high on the potential "4s" in this draft except at the top of the board. And with Vooch looking like he is past his peak then we have to get help at the "5". We have to look at Walker Kessler. Which means you try to catch the Auburn games. You get the added advantage of also watching Jabari Smith of Auburn that will probably go top 3. The other center to watch is Mark Williams of Duke. Duke has other potential top picks including Banchero. Plus it is Coach K's swan song tournament. So you want to watch Duke games. Personally I like watching the Tournament. Lots of drama. Very entertaining games. The one loss and out always leaves open the real possibility of unforseen upsets. In a 7 games series the better team is almost always going to win. Not so in college. One bad shooting night and even the top seeded teams can down to defeat. Look at the Illini last year.

Thanks

TheSuzerain · Post #149 » by **TheSuzerain** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:49 pm

I'd love a 2nd rounder to take Zach Edey with. Use the first rounder on a guard or 3/4.

Wingy · Post #150 » by **Wingy** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:17 pm

Hmm, I usually get really biased against guys whose teams bow out in R1 in an upset. Looking at you Keegan Murray.

I honestly don’t know pretty much anything about any college prospect right now though.

Rose2Boozer · Post #151 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:02 am

Tough day at the office for Roddy, Murray, and Lewis.

Post #152 » by **Michael Jackson** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:30 am

That UNC/Baylor game was a lot of fun. Ruined my brakes FWIW but helped my wife's so I had to listen to it lol. Still that game was fun.

nomorezorro · Post #153 » by **nomorezorro** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:36 am

i'm one of those guys who can't really tell the difference between "guy who is good in college" and "guy who is actually draftable," but am i crazy for thinking ndefo from saint peter's is an interesting second round guy? basically has to project as a small ball big but with that block rate...seems like there's a chance he could pull it off

Bulldog23 · Post #154 » by **Bulldog23** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:20 am

Kessler and Sochan I think are top 15 picks…I would surprised if either are available for Bulls.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #155 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:07 pm

I'm still learning about him as I just seen his name being talked about in the draft forum but Gabriele Procida from Italy is an interesting prospect. I think you see his name rise come draft time.

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Repeat 3-peat · Post #156 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:25 am

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Almost Retired · Post #157 » by **Almost Retired** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:47 am

Auburn was made to look silly against Miami. Terrible coaching job. Kessler was a total non factor. Hardly played. The tournament did not help his draft stock. Marc Williams looks OK so far. He'll be a serviceable "5", but mostly as a defensive presence and rim runner. He doesn't have much game beyond 5 feet. But he's likely to be our best pick available. We need some size. I suppose Liddell might be OK as a back up to Patrick if AK thinks Bradley can still be our primary "5" behind Vooch. We are set 1 - 3 unless we make trades.

othawhitemeat · Post #158 » by **othawhitemeat** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:03 am

Almost Retired wrote:Auburn was made to look silly against Miami. Terrible coaching job. Kessler was a total non factor. Hardly played. The tournament did not help his draft stock. Marc Williams looks OK so far. He'll be a serviceable "5", but mostly as a defensive presence and rim runner. He doesn't have much game beyond 5 feet. But he's likely to be our best pick available. We need some size. I suppose Liddell might be OK as a back up to Patrick if AK thinks Bradley can still be our primary "5" behind Vooch. We are set 1 - 3 unless we make trades.

Would love Liddell - reminds me of a prime Paul Millsap. Great leaper as evidenced by 3 blocks a game at 6'7, can shoot, and can post a little.

Almost Retired · Post #159 » by **Almost Retired** » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:25 pm

So far in the Tournament I have to say that Banchero is cementing himself into being the Number 1 Pick. His combination of size and skill level make him the deserved first pick. Jabari Smith of Auburn probably #2. I was not that impressed by Holmgren. He has skills. But he needs to add some mass and a lot more strength to play in the NBA. While his 5th foul was a crappy call, he went up straight vertical, the Arkansas players manhandled him. ANd the Gonzaga guards absolutely crapped the bed. Holmgren needs to stay in school one more year. He's too gangly to play the "3" and too weak to play the "4". He'll never be a "5". If I had to handicap the top of the draft I would say Banchero #1, Jabari Smith #2 and Jaden Ivey #3. After that it's a crap shoot. This is not a stellar draft. As for the Bulls....I hope and pray that Mark Williams of Duke lasts until our pick. He's the best player we could hope for in our draft slot. He's having a very good tournament as well. I like his size and his wingspan which I see listed as 7'-5" to 7"-7". And he shoots a good percentage from the free throw line, so he has the ability to at least develop an offensive game out to 15 feet, though defense and rebounding will always be his primary ticket in the NBA>

Almost Retired · Post #160 » by **Almost Retired** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:40 am

I just finished watching Purdue go down to St. Peters. My observations: Jaden Ivey gets bothered by ball pressure. He's fast dribbling down the court with nobody on him. Almost Westbrook like. But put a guy on him that can stick to him and his handles disappear and his decision making becomes suspect. And notwithstanding the "3" he hit at the end he doesn't look like a great shooter. He threw up several air balls. He'll still go lottery. And he may start for someone, someday. But I'm not expecting stardom out of him. There something missing. As for Zach Edey, well, he's tall. But he's got terrible hands. Can't catch passes and gets stripped too easily. I can't see him getting NBA minutes. I would not take him even in the 2nd round. I look up and down the projected draft and I see mediocrity. After Banchero and Jabari Smith....lots of question marks. For the Bulls, pray for Mark Williams as our future "5" after a year backing up a declining Vooch. Or EJ Liddell as someone to push Patrick or back him up. I think Liddell has game. And an NBA body. He'll have a pretty long career in the league barring injury. The Portland pick will be of greater value in some future draft. This draft, overall, is mediocre at best.

If Bulls keep the pick, who should they select?