Tyrese Maxey Vs. The Guy who was supposed to be Tyrese Maxey, Sixers @ Magic 3/13 6:00est

[Jhawk03]

I mean Morey didn't know he'd definitely get Harden. Not much he can do with this roster till the off-season.

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He did know, that's why he took 100% of the criticism and bore most all of the burden of attacks during the "trade Ben for dollars and cents" nonsense.

Sean marks is the final authority on that trade.. Can't make other trades in anticipation until you land the big fish especially if those players will be needed to complete said trade.

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Works for me, I believe that, helps me sleep at.

[phillynative]

Should've traded Ben for Brogdon and more, or Haliburton and more OR for depth period with draft picks. Who cares about Embiid's prime?

Your quoting me because?...

I mean

Teams are starting to trap Harden and get the ball out of his hands, and there are too few players he can get the ball to who can make them pay. Without an uncommonly good game from Harris tonight, they lose. Maxey’s recent stint of good games looks like an anomaly at this point.

Yea but depth isnt needed right

Could've had depth, but instead Morey got Harden. People who act like there were all these assets when in reality everyone also agreed BEN was the last trade chip. So you wanted depth instead of getting something for Embiid's prime with Harden?!?!

That was directed at ferry whos always arguing that depth doesnt matter and now is saying "there are too few players he can get the ball to who can make them pay".
The Harden choice was obviously the way to go but this team as currently constructed is going to have a hard time going all the way and depth is just one of the reasons why.

[rocketsfan100]

This season is a free hit. Morey will take the offseason to fully tune and add the required pieces for a full titlt at a ring next season and beyond. This season right now is a free hit given he acquired Harden mid season without having time to assemble a proper roster to compliment the strengths and cover the weaknesses

[Ferry Avenue]

Your quoting me because?...

I mean

Yea but depth isnt needed right

Could've had depth, but instead Morey got Harden. People who act like there were all these assets when in reality everyone also agreed BEN was the last trade chip. So you wanted depth instead of getting something for Embiid's prime with Harden?!?!

That was directed at ferry whos always arguing that depth doesnt matter and now is saying "there are too few players he can get the ball to who can make them pay".
The Harden choice was obviously the way to go but this team as currently constructed is going to have a hard time going all the way and depth is just one of the reasons why.

You won't find a post in which I've said "depth doesn't matter." What you'll find are posts that note that we have yet to hear any objective information about how important it is. It could be the case for example that the majority of NBA finals winners have worse depth (and far better starters) than teams that do far more poorly in the league. Do we know? Where are the data?

There is a difference between saying something "doesn't matter" and saying "the matter is unclear and not adequately known."

[Zumramania]

Magic is playing really well since Fultz returned (dude had 11 assists in just 19 minutes against us!), I think they'll catch a playoff spot next season.

[phillynative]

I mean



Could've had depth, but instead Morey got Harden. People who act like there were all these assets when in reality everyone also agreed BEN was the last trade chip. So you wanted depth instead of getting something for Embiid's prime with Harden?!?!

That was directed at ferry whos always arguing that depth doesnt matter and now is saying "there are too few players he can get the ball to who can make them pay".
The Harden choice was obviously the way to go but this team as currently constructed is going to have a hard time going all the way and depth is just one of the reasons why.

You won't find a post in which I've said "depth doesn't matter." What you'll find are posts that note that we have yet to hear any objective information about how important it is. It could be the case for example that the majority of NBA finals winners have worse depth (and far better starters) than teams that do far more poorly in the league. Do we know? Where are the data?

There is a difference between saying something "doesn't matter" and saying "the matter is unclear and not adequately known."

[mjkvol]

This season is a free hit. Morey will take the offseason to fully tune and add the required pieces for a full titlt at a ring next season and beyond. This season right now is a free hit given he acquired Harden mid season without having time to assemble a proper roster to compliment the strengths and cover the weaknesses

This is the bottom line. I'd like to see Doc experiment more with young guys before the playoffs, and I'd love to see them get away from the stand around / iso offense, but the truth is that this roster isn't built to compliment the Harden/Embiid duo. Morey has a lot of work yet to do.

[mjkvol]

Magic is playing really well since Fultz returned (dude had 11 assists in just 19 minutes against us!), I think they'll catch a playoff spot next season.

He is silky smooth, man. That may turn out to be the ultimate "what if" of The Process.

[the_process]

Nets just beat the Magic by 42. Meanwhile, the Sixers barely beat them by a bucket in OT. Things are going swimmingly.

[mjkvol]

Nets just beat the Magic by 42. Meanwhile, the Sixers barely beat them by a bucket in OT. Things are going swimmingly.

Now c'mon, you know that means nothing. You can find results like that throughout any NBA season.

[the_process]

Nets just beat the Magic by 42. Meanwhile, the Sixers barely beat them by a bucket in OT. Things are going swimmingly.

Now c'mon, you know that means nothing. You can find results like that throughout any NBA season.

The Nets also beat the Sixers by 29?

I know it's all noise, but it's annoying to me this team took only two weeks to kill the Harden buzz. Do we never get anything nice?

[mjkvol]

Nets just beat the Magic by 42. Meanwhile, the Sixers barely beat them by a bucket in OT. Things are going swimmingly.

Now c'mon, you know that means nothing. You can find results like that throughout any NBA season.

The Nets also beat the Sixers by 29?

I know it's all noise, but it's annoying to me this team took only two weeks to kill the Harden buzz. Do we never get anything nice?

You know as well as anyone this is a thin, badly mismatched group that was a long shot to win a title. I looked at this as a year to see what needed to be done this summer, and the good thing is we are finding that out in no uncertain terms.

[Ferry Avenue]

Nets just beat the Magic by 42. Meanwhile, the Sixers barely beat them by a bucket in OT. Things are going swimmingly.

Now c'mon, you know that means nothing. You can find results like that throughout any NBA season.

The Nets also beat the Sixers by 29?

I know it's all noise, but it's annoying to me this team took only two weeks to kill the Harden buzz. Do we never get anything nice?

What we're seeing in my opinion are opposing teams that are responding to that buzz (i.e., the Sixers' initial dominance with Harden) by redoubling their efforts to win, not only because they're playing a better team than the Sixers were before, but also because the Sixers look beatable with simply a ratcheting up of effort on other teams' part (e.g., Orlando and Brooklyn).

So now we're in the phase of this process in which the Sixers have to develop a counterpunch in response to that, and they have yet to do so. If and when they develop that, the "buzz" will return, but in the form of something far more sustainable -- team character.

[phillynative]

I noted the nets win against magic and it made me think about how even though KD was injured and Kyrie covid retrictions they seem to have fresher legs than their opponents. But they also now have the surrounding pieces that fit them. KD and kyrie also have experience playing with eachother.

Looking at the sixers Joel and Harden are not as rested . Harden has played huge mins all season and Joel has played alot of games this season. They are trying to figure it out on the go and the surrounding pieces are not adquate fits.


Like Mj said this is looking more like an evaluation run .

[Ferry Avenue]

I noted the nets win against magic and it made me think about how even though KD was injured and Kyrie covid retrictions they seem to have fresher legs than their opponents. But they also now have the surrounding pieces that fit them. KD and kyrie also have experience playing with eachother.

Looking at the sixers Joel and Harden are not as rested . Harden has played huge mins all season and Joel has played alot of games this season. They are trying to figure it out on the go and the surrounding pieces are not adquate fits.


Like Mj said this is looking more like an evaluation run .

Well and with Durant and Irving you're talking about two players who can flip an internal switch and dominate games. Harden can't do that, and while Embiid sometimes can, he doesn't play the position on the court in which the effect of that is optimal in beating teams.

[phillynative]

I noted the nets win against magic and it made me think about how even though KD was injured and Kyrie covid retrictions they seem to have fresher legs than their opponents. But they also now have the surrounding pieces that fit them. KD and kyrie also have experience playing with eachother.

Looking at the sixers Joel and Harden are not as rested . Harden has played huge mins all season and Joel has played alot of games this season. They are trying to figure it out on the go and the surrounding pieces are not adquate fits.


Like Mj said this is looking more like an evaluation run .

Well and with Durant and Irving you're talking about two players who can flip an internal switch and dominate games. Harden can't do that, and while Embiid sometimes can, he doesn't play the position on the court in which the effect of that is optimal in beating teams.

Maybe but if Harden cant do that than we might have traded for the wrong guy. Doc said he thought Harden could of been more aggressive. Hes going to have to have the ability to take over games offensively if this team is going to really be legit contenders.

[the_process]

Now c'mon, you know that means nothing. You can find results like that throughout any NBA season.

The Nets also beat the Sixers by 29?

I know it's all noise, but it's annoying to me this team took only two weeks to kill the Harden buzz. Do we never get anything nice?

You know as well as anyone this is a thin, badly mismatched group that was a long shot to win a title. I looked at this as a year to see what needed to be done this summer, and the good thing is we are finding that out in no uncertain terms.

Yeah, in the context of wining a title you're right. And that is ultimately what matters.

So tired of waiting for them to move Tobias and realize Glenn is clueless, though.

We might have to go through another whole damn season after this to get it completely straightened out. Never ending.

[mjkvol]

The Nets also beat the Sixers by 29?

I know it's all noise, but it's annoying to me this team took only two weeks to kill the Harden buzz. Do we never get anything nice?

You know as well as anyone this is a thin, badly mismatched group that was a long shot to win a title. I looked at this as a year to see what needed to be done this summer, and the good thing is we are finding that out in no uncertain terms.

Yeah, in the context of wining a title you're right. And that is ultimately what matters.

So tired of waiting for them to move Tobias and realize Glenn is clueless, though.

We might have to go through another whole damn season after this to get it completely straightened out. Never ending.

Those are the two elephants in the corner of the room. Everyone knows it, probably even Morey. I'd be stunned if every effort isn't made to move Tobias, but I'd be equally shocked if Glenn wasn't back.

Here's the bottom line - if Tobias is still on the roster beyond next year's trade deadline the championship window can start being closed, and if he's here the following season it is slammed shut.