Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up

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Re: Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up 

Post#21 » by SkyHookFTW » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:11 pm

Ginobili vs. Smart vs. Divac. Let's see who is the most creative flopper.
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Re: Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up 

Post#22 » by Black Feet » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:24 pm

70sFan wrote:
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70sFan wrote:No, I just said that we've actually seen this matchup because they were contemporaries and we haven't seen any reason to believe that Kobe would prove he's on another level to Wade... because he wasn't. That's all, there is no need to add something I didn't say.

i’m saying you literally went and looked for 2 games where played better and posted them, I can find 2 games were Wade outplayed Lebron and say the same thing.

No, I picked their two matchups from 2009 season because this season was in question. I didn't bring them up to prove that Wade is better, I simply did that to show that Kobe didn't prove his superiority h2h. That's quite a difference, don't you think?

Sure if a 2 game sample size does it for you, look up Wade vs Lebron for the same season and you can say the same thing.
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Re: Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up 

Post#23 » by 70sFan » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:28 pm

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Black Feet wrote:i’m saying you literally went and looked for 2 games where played better and posted them, I can find 2 games were Wade outplayed Lebron and say the same thing.

No, I picked their two matchups from 2009 season because this season was in question. I didn't bring them up to prove that Wade is better, I simply did that to show that Kobe didn't prove his superiority h2h. That's quite a difference, don't you think?

Sure if a 2 game sample size does it for you, look up Wade vs Lebron for the same season and you can say the same thing.

I will, because my point isn't to prove that Wade is better but that Kobe didn't prove himself clearly better than him. I don't use h2h matchups to rank players, I made this response for LAL because he said that Kobe would prove himself better h2h vs Wade, which he didn't in reality.

It would be nice to understand the context of my posts before trying to defend your favorite player.
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Re: Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up 

Post#24 » by parsnips33 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 pm

McBubbles wrote:
henshao wrote:Lebron/Jordan


I don't think this would be interesting at all. Jordan is the superior one on one scorer AND the superior one on one defende


So somebody offers you tickets to watch 09 LeBron vs 91 Jordan 1-on-1 and you wouldn't be interested? See what's on Netflix instead?
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Re: Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up 

Post#25 » by falcolombardi » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:38 pm

lebron size advantage would definetely give jordan issues in both sides of the court

2009 lebron was so fast and big i think he can do a decent job against jordan to at least force him to rely in his jumper a fair bit

by contrast thst version of lebron didnt have strong post moves so other thsn strenght he may not be able to take advantage of his size in offense
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Re: Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up 

Post#26 » by Black Feet » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:47 pm

70sFan wrote:
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70sFan wrote:No, I picked their two matchups from 2009 season because this season was in question. I didn't bring them up to prove that Wade is better, I simply did that to show that Kobe didn't prove his superiority h2h. That's quite a difference, don't you think?

Sure if a 2 game sample size does it for you, look up Wade vs Lebron for the same season and you can say the same thing.

I will, because my point isn't to prove that Wade is better but that Kobe didn't prove himself clearly better than him. I don't use h2h matchups to rank players, I made this response for LAL because he said that Kobe would prove himself better h2h vs Wade, which he didn't in reality.

It would be nice to understand the context of my posts before trying to defend your favorite player.

Well my point is that it’s not a great indicator of being a better one on one player, I would take Lebron over Wade confidently but there are some games in their prime were Wade got the better of him. I know your point it just doesn’t prove anything like you think it does, Wade isn’t that far off from either of them so it’s no surprise he put up some good numbers against the greats.
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Re: Create the Most Intriguing 1:1 Match Up 

Post#27 » by penbeast0 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:01 am

Jokic v. Mikan (in 1949).
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