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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#21 » by Rastas » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 am

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Prokorov wrote:I think that so little is required from Ben offensively here and his Defense will be so much added value that it will be hard for him not to make a pretty significant bottom line impact.

Like offensively 10/5 on 55 TS% would be way more then enough.

The spacing is a non issue. He is stepping into the Bruce Brown/Bemby/James Johnson spot where you either have the ball or are cutting off ball/in the dunker spot. no one respected any of those 3 guys and teams leave them wide open. So it isnt like Ben is creating a spacing issue that was hadnt already overcome with lesser players and equal detriments to spacing.

Defensively, he allows KD not to have to drop 30 and guard the opponents best wing. which is huge.

The biggest impact thought will be transition... rebounding and forcing turnovers. Kyrie/KD are automatic on the break and seth/mills in transition on open 3s is a big momentum boost.

10 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assts, 2 steals + solid defense would have a massive impact for us.
Oh dear ,
Are you in for a shock.

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Right now Bruce Brown is giving us 9/5/2/1 on 54 TS%
Are you saying Ben cant give us slightly more then that?

maybe im being a homer or whatever but the idea that Ben can not be a better version of Bruce Brown would be one of the bigger shock/disappointments ive seen in almost 35 years as a Nets fan... and your talking about ALOT of disappointment over that duration.
Nope opposite.
A motivated Simmons will do your expected numbers in less than a half.
Theres a big diffrence between an unhappy Ben and a motivated Ben .
Im expecting the motivated version.

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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#22 » by bargara » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 am

Rastas wrote:
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Rastas wrote:Oh dear ,
Are you in for a shock.

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Right now Bruce Brown is giving us 9/5/2/1 on 54 TS%
Are you saying Ben cant give us slightly more then that?

maybe im being a homer or whatever but the idea that Ben can not be a better version of Bruce Brown would be one of the bigger shock/disappointments ive seen in almost 35 years as a Nets fan... and your talking about ALOT of disappointment over that duration.
Nope opposite.
A motivated Simmons will do your expected numbers in less than a half.
Theres a big diffrence between an unhappy Ben and a motivated Ben .
Im expecting the motivated version.

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Yeah, it’s a weird take when his career averages are basically 16/8/8

Throw in DPOY standard defence, Drummond, Curry and draft picks & the Nets are “potentially” (worst word in English language) much improved
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#23 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:13 pm

zimpy27 wrote:This is the first time that Simmons has played outside of the Sixers system. So I think you do need to wait and see how relevant the OP's analysis (which reflects Ben in the Philly system well) is to Ben on the Nets. Some of the things in the OP are not true of Ben at certain points in his career as a sixer when Embiid was out for long stretches. I also think last playoffs was an especially bad one for Ben because of the mental struggles and family issues at that time.

I'd err on the side of thinking Ben is likely to be better than OP has described but it would be good to watch for the behvaiours OP described, to see if they are replicated as dramatically.



This. I am giving Ben a clean slate, just like I gave Harden and every other person who has come and gone.

I'm not ignoring the obvious areas that need to be cleaned up, but I have seen enough of Ben kicking our asses over the years to know that this guy isn't some bum.
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#24 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:16 pm

Prokorov wrote:I think that so little is required from Ben offensively here and his Defense will be so much added value that it will be hard for him not to make a pretty significant bottom line impact.

Like offensively 10/5 on 55 TS% would be way more then enough.

The spacing is a non issue. He is stepping into the Bruce Brown/Bemby/James Johnson spot where you either have the ball or are cutting off ball/in the dunker spot. no one respected any of those 3 guys and teams leave them wide open. So it isnt like Ben is creating a spacing issue that was hadnt already overcome with lesser players and equal detriments to spacing.

Defensively, he allows KD not to have to drop 30 and guard the opponents best wing. which is huge.

The biggest impact thought will be transition... rebounding and forcing turnovers. Kyrie/KD are automatic on the break and seth/mills in transition on open 3s is a big momentum boost.

10 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assts, 2 steals + solid defense would have a massive impact for us.


Yeah i mean we're literally asking Ben to just be an elite roleplayer. Rebound, be aggressive in transition, set screens, play defense on the opposing perimeter threats and just relax and have fun. He's not being asked to be a scorer or to carry the team. Let KD and Kryrie score. Let the shooters shoot. All he has to do is play his game.
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#25 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:30 am

76ciology wrote:Ben sucks so much that Harden with just one working hamstring looks like Michael Jordan with Chris Paul’s point guard ability


Keep that energy here here boy :lol:
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#26 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:34 am

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76ciology wrote:Ben sucks so much that Harden with just one working hamstring looks like Michael Jordan with Chris Paul’s point guard ability


Keep that energy here here boy :lol:


:lol: Michael Jordan never pissed his pants in public like Harden did when Kyrie annihilated him on national television. Sixers fans are straight up clowns
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#27 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:34 am

Some perspective here.

https://youtu.be/xYVinvORiAY

I appreciate them guys actually doing work. Some info on Ben and medical. Guy said everything on point. Unless you got med records can't say much.
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#28 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:39 am

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76ciology wrote:Ben sucks so much that Harden with just one working hamstring looks like Michael Jordan with Chris Paul’s point guard ability


Keep that energy here here boy :lol:


:lol: Michael Jordan never pissed his pants in public like Harden did when Kyrie annihilated him on national television. Sixers fans are straight up clowns

I got really offended seeing CP name next Harden, but when this clown put MJ... yo fam I had to bring him here :lol:
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#29 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:12 am

This Ben hate might trump Kyrie :lol:
Dude been compared to MJ :lol:
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#30 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:14 am

Anyone wonder why I want to see Philthy in a 1st round. I hope they bring that energy come playoffs
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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#31 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:17 am

As a scrub tech I dont have much experience to talk about. Just from my guess guy has 5+ years most likely. Than it's a concern.
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A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#32 » by kio80 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:25 am

It seems like 76ers fans has a lot of time on their hands, so much that they need to worry about another team, with their perspectives.
Amazing insights, regardless of the truth/ quality, but it’s time to let it go guys, you cannot hold a grudge forever.
Find another hobby, spend some time with your family, it’s just a sport team, now go, in peace, amen.


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Re: A Sixers fan perspective on Simmons 

Post#33 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:20 pm

2 picks, curry and not paying harden 50 million a year and removing a cancer in harden was worth it no matter what happens to ben

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