Official Scottie Barnes Thread 2

hype_2004 · Post #1561 » by **hype_2004** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:58 am

HumbleRen wrote:Scottie's worst game in the last 2 weeks and still ended up with 15/4.

Ridiculous.

Actually 17p 6r and 1as.

AbC? · Post #1562 » by **AbC?** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:02 am

He was getting hacked on his forearm on a few of his missed push shot attempts tonight, 0 FTs is a joke. Shaky in the last stretch of the game but still contributed with that full court layup and offensive rebounding. First "meh" game in a while overall.

Purple+Black · Post #1563 » by **Purple+Black** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:05 am

Good on NN for putting him in those late-game situations. He was unpredictable with the ball to close the game and showed flashes of brilliance along with some questionable plays.

Exactly what you’d expect from a rookie, but the most important takeaway here is that he has some late-game NBA experience as primary-ballhandler now.

Madhouse · Post #1564 » by **Madhouse** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 am

AbC? wrote:He was getting hacked on his forearm on a few of his missed push shot attempts tonight, 0 FTs is a joke. Shaky in the last stretch of the game but still contributed with that full court layup and offensive rebounding. First "meh" game in a while overall.

He isn't getting to the line nearly enough, it sucks.

He should have received 4-6 FTA in this game.

But I guess he can bully the undersized Lakers now.

720 · Post #1565 » by **720** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:14 am

Raptors gonna get passed the Cavs any day now. Barnes ROY propaganda will be on overdrive on twitter.

junot111 · Post #1566 » by **junot111** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:13 am

Madhouse wrote:
AbC? wrote:He was getting hacked on his forearm on a few of his missed push shot attempts tonight, 0 FTs is a joke. Shaky in the last stretch of the game but still contributed with that full court layup and offensive rebounding. First "meh" game in a while overall.

He isn't getting to the line nearly enough, it sucks.

He should have received 4-6 FTA in this game.

But I guess he can bully the undersized Lakers now.

Some of those could've gone his way but I don't think there were any egregious fouls that were missed. It's expected for a rookie to not get the favor of the whistle anyway. If he just plays his game and continues to attack I'm sure the calls will start to come.

I just hope he doesn't pick up a habit of constantly whining to the refs. We saw that on full display from FVV tonight which was the worst I've ever seen from him (up to DeMar level, not running back on defense on multiple occasions).

VC15Era · Post #1567 » by **VC15Era** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:08 pm

how is Barnes still 3rd in rookie rankings.. should be at least 2nd..

Madhouse · Post #1568 » by **Madhouse** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:05 pm

Read on Twitter

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Post #1569 » by **DG88** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:13 pm

It was not Barnes’s most spectacular game of the trip, though he still finished with 15 points and four rebounds and found ways to make some big plays down the stretch: A fast-break dunk off a turnover and another coast-to-coast drive where he read the defence loading to Siakam and VanVleet and drove the ball 90 feet himself for critical score with 2:25 left to play. There was a potentially costly turnover too when he took command of the offence, drove the lane but fumbled what was supposed to be a kickout to an open VanVleet, but the good far out-weighed the bad.

“Well, I like it a lot. Just because he’s in a mix, making plays with the game on the line, and the more cracks he can get at ‘em the better for me,” said Raptors head coach Nick Nurse of trusting Barnes with the ball down the stretch. “… he brings the ball up the floor and people think ‘well, he’s too big to do that, we’re gonna pressure him,’ and he’s making them pay. They don’t take it from him and he puts it on ‘em and he puts his body on ‘em and he goes in an makes plays and that’ll end that pretty quickly. And the one pass out was a little shaky, but like I said, the more reps the better it will be for him later on.”

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/in-historic-win-streak-barnes-proving-potential-as-fulcrum-of-raptors-future/sn-amp/

LascelleL · Post #1570 » by **LascelleL** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:20 pm

I genuinely believe the Raptors have a future MVP, especially with our Coaching staff and FO. Watching Scottie Barnes play basketball brings me so much Joy.

Scottie is a workhorse and all of the OGs around him are people that worked for everything they've achieved including our Championship.

Pascal and FVV: worked their way from the bottom of their drafts to being All star players who have won it all.
Nick Nurse: Read his bio, nuff said
Masai: The Godfather and the epitome of working your way to the top.

We've come so far from the Bargnani days/

vulture · Post #1571 » by **vulture** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:35 pm

Scottie becoming the ballhandler in Pick and roll situation is amazing especially in the 2nd unit. They started running double drag and spain pick and roll for him last night. He didn't execute them well, but it bodes well for the future if you can have a guy that size doing that and able pick apart defenses.

Los_29 · Post #1572 » by **Los_29** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:35 pm

LascelleL wrote:I genuinely believe the Raptors have a future MVP, especially with our Coaching staff and FO. Watching Scottie Barnes play basketball brings me so much Joy.

Scottie is a workhorse and all of the OGs around him are people that worked for everything they've achieved including our Championship.

Pascal and FVV: worked their way from the bottom of their drafts to being All star players who have won it all.
Nick Nurse: Read his bio, nuff said
Masai: The Godfather and the epitome of working your way to the top.

We've come so far from the Bargnani days/

Scottie couldn't have asked for a better team to go to. It's the perfect match. You got players like Cade, Green, Suggs, Giddey and Franz who are on teams that lose nearly every game. They don't just lose either, they lose by like 10-20 points lol.

Scottie is on a team that wins, plays hard and some of his teammates know what it takes to win in this league.

execoftheyear · Post #1573 » by **execoftheyear** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:04 pm

Just a minor nitpick, I feel like he lost a bit of his lateral quickness he showed early on in the season. He used to be able to lockdown guards on the perimeter but now he's allowing to many blow-bys at the top. Probably a result from adding some muscle which has noticeably helped him in the post on the offensive end but has made him a tad bid slower on the defensive end. He is still a rookie and figuring out his ideal body weight so I'm not too worried.

Madhouse · Post #1574 » by **Madhouse** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:04 pm

Pascal and Scottie will be a very dangerous duo next year.

Madhouse · Post #1575 » by **Madhouse** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:06 pm

execoftheyear wrote:Just a minor nitpick, I feel like he lost a bit of his lateral quickness he showed early on in the season. He used to be able to lockdown guards on the perimeter but now he's allowing to many blow-bys at the top. Probably a result from adding some muscle which has noticeably helped him in the post on the offensive end but has made him a tad bid slower on the defensive end. He is still a rookie and figuring out his ideal body weight so I'm not too worried.

Interesting, I think he has improved massively defensively since the ASB.

vulture · Post #1576 » by **vulture** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:24 pm

Madhouse wrote:
execoftheyear wrote:Just a minor nitpick, I feel like he lost a bit of his lateral quickness he showed early on in the season. He used to be able to lockdown guards on the perimeter but now he's allowing to many blow-bys at the top. Probably a result from adding some muscle which has noticeably helped him in the post on the offensive end but has made him a tad bid slower on the defensive end. He is still a rookie and figuring out his ideal body weight so I'm not too worried.

Interesting, I think he has improved massively defensively since the ASB.

I agree that he's been better defensively since the ASB.
I think he hasn't learned that you can't just overwhelm guards at the point of attack like he used at FSU. That's something he's going to have remove from his game. Like OG and Pascal he will have to learn to gap the quick guards and not allow Blow byes but it will come with experience.

Post #1577 » by **Reeko** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:39 pm

Big paws on a pup.

blastttOFF · Post #1578 » by **blastttOFF** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:43 pm

execoftheyear wrote:Just a minor nitpick, I feel like he lost a bit of his lateral quickness he showed early on in the season. He used to be able to lockdown guards on the perimeter but now he's allowing to many blow-bys at the top. Probably a result from adding some muscle which has noticeably helped him in the post on the offensive end but has made him a tad bid slower on the defensive end. He is still a rookie and figuring out his ideal body weight so I'm not too worried.

His lateral quicks are ok. It’s his positioning and angle when he’s defending is way off. His arms are long enough to sag away a bit but he positions himself so close to the guard inexplicably for easy blowbyes

Just need to watch & learn more OG. Who is 98% always in the correct position defensively

pingpongrac · Post #1579 » by **pingpongrac** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:03 pm

execoftheyear wrote:Just a minor nitpick, I feel like he lost a bit of his lateral quickness he showed early on in the season. He used to be able to lockdown guards on the perimeter but now he's allowing to many blow-bys at the top. Probably a result from adding some muscle which has noticeably helped him in the post on the offensive end but has made him a tad bid slower on the defensive end. He is still a rookie and figuring out his ideal body weight so I'm not too worried.

I think almost the complete opposite lol. It felt like he was getting blown by a lot in the first few months, but he's locking down most guards lately. There are still some blow-bys (and they usually stick out, like when Dean Wade beat him off the dribble and dunked a few weeks ago lol), but his lateral quickness seems better and he's learning how to use his body to force players a certain direction a bit more. It seems like every couple games he has been getting a bit better defensively since 20-25 games ago with a bigger leap over the past few weeks.

HumbleRen · Post #1580 » by **HumbleRen** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:09 pm

blastttOFF wrote:
execoftheyear wrote:Just a minor nitpick, I feel like he lost a bit of his lateral quickness he showed early on in the season. He used to be able to lockdown guards on the perimeter but now he's allowing to many blow-bys at the top. Probably a result from adding some muscle which has noticeably helped him in the post on the offensive end but has made him a tad bid slower on the defensive end. He is still a rookie and figuring out his ideal body weight so I'm not too worried.

His lateral quicks are ok. It’s his positioning and angle when he’s defending is way off. His arms are long enough to sag away a bit but he positions himself so close to the guard inexplicably for easy blowbyes

Just need to watch & learn more OG. Who is 98% always in the correct position defensively

Needs to utilize his length more than his "quickness". When you're getting beat off the dribble by Morris Sr, you're doing something wrong. Just use your wingspan more often instead of pressing up body to body on players on the perimeter.