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Post#81 » by Note30 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:19 pm

We need a another defensive 3/4. I doubt we're retaining Prince, Okogie, Layman. Bev is getting old. While Jaden can start at the 3 we have a pretty big gap there. Could really use a defensive 3 that can switch to the 2 or 4 spot. One preferably that can shoot.
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Post#82 » by Neeva » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:53 pm

Holmgren is pretty overrated.
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Post#83 » by Slim Tubby » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:33 am

KGdaBom wrote:We're drafting 30th. So quit talking about guys in the top 20. :lol:

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Post#84 » by Nick K » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:44 am

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mplsfonz23 wrote:I tend to look at the quality of the opponents he's playing. Also, highlights don't tell it all. I look at the "low effort" from those who watch him. Can he change? Sure. But Wiggins taught me not to get my hopes up.

I've always been a "transferable skills" guy. Why I went in on LaVine hard before almost anyone on here. That stroke is money. Give him a Towns and Edwards and Russell to take pressure off him and I think he could feast.

I get the low effort rap, but sometimes it's about putting guys in position to succeed. Wiggins as an alpha creator isn't his role, but playing off other great players allows him to play better as we're seeing this year. I think Baldwin might be a victim of circumstances. He didn't put himself in a position to succeed by going to Milwaukee. It's easy to look. great playing alongside other great talents.


I think we were the only two guys that loved Zach. I saw Kobe Bryyant in Zach. Zach is also the greatest dunker I've ever seen. Yes, Vince Carter was great too.

I was bummed on draft night when he was traded for Butler. Butler had already destroyed one teams locker room and I knew it would happen here.

Wiggins was the one to move.

Then we had John Collins whom I loved right in our hands and we passed. OG was there too! Collins was perfect for us....but no! Complete incompetence. Hopefully we're long past that.
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Post#85 » by Nick K » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:49 am

Tscheibwe was dominant tonight but he's short on skill. He's quite the physical specimen though. If Kat could teach him foot work and scoring down low with either hand he could be a worthwhile pick. He looks late 1st round early 2nd round to me.
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Post#86 » by Worm Guts » Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:04 am

I’d take him higher than that, mid first somewhere. Of course I haven’t really paid attention to anyone, I’m just really impressed by his physicality.
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Post#87 » by Domejandro » Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:22 am

Walker Kessler might be someone worth developing into the fifth big role. Great hands defensively, quality screener, and solid rebounder. Over seven feet tall, could give minute some flexibility, long-term.

Ideally you go for a higher ceiling player, but going the less exciting solid route is worth considering.
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Post#88 » by Neeva » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:43 am

I think I’d rather gamble on Hardy and Baldwin jr first, but Kessler is my third choice. Would love one of baldwin jr or Hardy and trading up for Kessler using the seconds??
Does anyone else like Michael Foster Jr in the second round?
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Post#89 » by KGdaBom » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:51 am

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Klomp wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:I tend to look at the quality of the opponents he's playing. Also, highlights don't tell it all. I look at the "low effort" from those who watch him. Can he change? Sure. But Wiggins taught me not to get my hopes up.

I've always been a "transferable skills" guy. Why I went in on LaVine hard before almost anyone on here. That stroke is money. Give him a Towns and Edwards and Russell to take pressure off him and I think he could feast.

I get the low effort rap, but sometimes it's about putting guys in position to succeed. Wiggins as an alpha creator isn't his role, but playing off other great players allows him to play better as we're seeing this year. I think Baldwin might be a victim of circumstances. He didn't put himself in a position to succeed by going to Milwaukee. It's easy to look. great playing alongside other great talents.


I think we were the only two guys that loved Zach. I saw Kobe Bryyant in Zach. Zach is also the greatest dunker I've ever seen. Yes, Vince Carter was great too.

I was bummed on draft night when he was traded for Butler. Butler had already destroyed one teams locker room and I knew it would happen here.

Wiggins was the one to move.

Then we had John Collins whom I loved right in our hands and we passed. OG was there too! Collins was perfect for us....but no! Complete incompetence. Hopefully we're long past that.

I wanted Zach also.
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Post#90 » by Guidus88 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:07 am

Mattya wrote:6’7, will be 20 when drafted, 50, 40, 80 shooting percentages, gets the the line, looks comfortable creating space with smooth step backs, looks pretty athletic off of one foot. That’s the no brainer at the top of the second round for me.



I do agree with you. Gabriele would be a low risk high reward pick. I would even consider to pick him with our first round pick!
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Post#91 » by Neeva » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:37 pm

Right now with first pick I have.
1. Jaden Hardy- NO brainer here too much upside if he booms
2. Pat Baldwin Jr -nice stroke for his size
3. Nikola Jovic -so skilled
4. Walker Kessler - I have questions about his athleticism.
5. Jeremy Sochan
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Post#92 » by Klomp » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:54 pm

Neeva wrote:Right now with first pick I have.
1. Jaden Hardy- NO brainer here too much upside if he booms
2. Pat Baldwin Jr -nice stroke for his size
3. Nikola Jovic -so skilled
4. Walker Kessler - I have questions about his athleticism.
5. Jeremy Sochan


Glad someone mentioned Sochan. He's someone with a skillset that I think fits the style of ball we like to run. He's not Charles Oakley, but I don't think we're looking for that at PF.
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Post#93 » by Neeva » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:07 am

I wouldn’t mind Sochan tbh if all four others are off the board when Wolves pick.

Kofi Cockburn is old and has few skills but he sure is huge and uses his huge body to protect the rim for Illinois.
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Post#94 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:18 am

It’s Kessler or jovic with our first imo or we need to trade it. Hardy has some tools, but it’s hard enough finding minutes for Nowell, let alone Bolmaro. Don’t want to use a first on a player we won’t ever play and just wasting the value. At least with Jovic he will likely spend another year overseas.

Kessler fills a need, and has great defensive skills. If we can’t get him, I’m taking Edey in the second.

I also like David Roddy in the second.
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Post#95 » by Neeva » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:06 am

Mattya wrote:It’s Kessler or jovic with our first imo or we need to trade it. Hardy has some tools, but it’s hard enough finding minutes for Nowell, let alone Bolmaro. Don’t want to use a first on a player we won’t ever play and just wasting the value. At least with Jovic he will likely spend another year overseas.

Kessler fills a need, and has great defensive skills. If we can’t get him, I’m taking Edey in the second.

I also like David Roddy in the second.



If Jaden Hardy is there when Wolves pick you take him and don’t look back and if he can help right away, that is great and then you can trade one of Nowell, Beasley or Beverly for a big.
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Post#96 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:14 am

Neeva wrote:
Mattya wrote:It’s Kessler or jovic with our first imo or we need to trade it. Hardy has some tools, but it’s hard enough finding minutes for Nowell, let alone Bolmaro. Don’t want to use a first on a player we won’t ever play and just wasting the value. At least with Jovic he will likely spend another year overseas.

Kessler fills a need, and has great defensive skills. If we can’t get him, I’m taking Edey in the second.

I also like David Roddy in the second.



If Jaden Hardy is there when Wolves pick you take him and don’t look back and if he can help right away, that is great and then you can trade one of Nowell, Beasley or Beverly for a big.


And if he isn’t ready, considering he is shooting 35% from the field, 27% from 3 and more turnovers than assists, you just drafted a guy who won’t have any playing time to develop, and loses value by not playing.
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Post#97 » by Neeva » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:28 am

Mattya wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Mattya wrote:It’s Kessler or jovic with our first imo or we need to trade it. Hardy has some tools, but it’s hard enough finding minutes for Nowell, let alone Bolmaro. Don’t want to use a first on a player we won’t ever play and just wasting the value. At least with Jovic he will likely spend another year overseas.

Kessler fills a need, and has great defensive skills. If we can’t get him, I’m taking Edey in the second.

I also like David Roddy in the second.




If Jaden Hardy is there when Wolves pick you take him and don’t look back and if he can help right away, that is great and then you can trade one of Nowell, Beasley or Beverly for a big.


And if he isn’t ready, considering he is shooting 35% from the field, 27% from 3 and more turnovers than assists, you just drafted a guy who won’t have any playing time to develop, and loses value by not playing.


No one where the wolves draft will be a finished product though.Hardy started horrible but his shooting came along in the g league. That is also the only reason he might slip to where the Wolves will draft. I think in 3-4 years he could end up being valuable and as good as someone like Jalen Green. Beverly and dlo miss a ton of games each season and who knows what Beasley we will get next season (or if he can stay problem free this off season) I think some minutes to develop will be there.
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Post#98 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:55 am

Neeva wrote:
Mattya wrote:
Neeva wrote:


If Jaden Hardy is there when Wolves pick you take him and don’t look back and if he can help right away, that is great and then you can trade one of Nowell, Beasley or Beverly for a big.


And if he isn’t ready, considering he is shooting 35% from the field, 27% from 3 and more turnovers than assists, you just drafted a guy who won’t have any playing time to develop, and loses value by not playing.


No one where the wolves draft will be a finished product though.Hardy started horrible but his shooting came along in the g league. That is also the only reason he might slip to where the Wolves will draft. I think in 3-4 years he could end up being valuable and as good as someone like Jalen Green. Beverly and dlo miss a ton of games each season and who knows what Beasley we will get next season (or if he can stay problem free this off season) I think some minutes to develop will be there.


I don’t see Hardy as anything like Green. I don’t get that comparison at all.
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Post#99 » by shangrila » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:38 am

Neeva wrote:Right now with first pick I have.
1. Jaden Hardy- NO brainer here too much upside if he booms
2. Pat Baldwin Jr -nice stroke for his size
3. Nikola Jovic -so skilled
4. Walker Kessler - I have questions about his athleticism.
5. Jeremy Sochan

I'd avoid Hardy like the plague.

Undersized, inefficient chucker that plays no defence and has little, if any, playmaking? Easy pass.
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Post#100 » by Neeva » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:48 am

Meh you are entitled to disagree some of you had the same criticism about Ant when he was at uga.

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