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Re: College/Draft thread. Knicks Currently have Picks 12 and 45 

Post#921 » by Marty McFly » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:40 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:Chet is going to be like Poku when he come to the NBA The strength of players is going to be way to overwhelming for a long time. Bringing up TS of a big man in college is laugable to me.

Holmgren I don’t care how talented people think he is. Dude is going to struggle with NBA strength and speed heavily. Holmgren even tho his talent level is very high is a project his first couple of years. Very rarely, so called number one players should ever be labeled a "project" but he damn sure is to me.

It’s cool to like Holmgren, I get the appeal, but people acting like Jabari Smith should be an after thought compared to him, and passing him up to pick Jabari is this huge mistake.... is crazy

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yawn. literally no one is saying Jabari should be an afterthought. and I also I like how you're whining about TS all the while glossing over his shooting splits.

you're right, knick fans stay knicking.
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Post#922 » by Marty McFly » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:43 pm

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What exactly is generational about him? The shotblocking is nice, but at the end of the day bigs have to be able to guard on switches, and there's no telling whether he can actually do that or not. Also, because of his frame he's going to have to play PF for the foreseeable future, and if he can't defend in space at a position where you absolutely will need to be able to guard perimeter guys, yikes.

It's much easier to see how Jabari fits into the current NBA, especially with some of his shot creation skills.


Thinking about fitting into the current NBA all the while having the possibility of drafting someone who could change the game isn't forward thinking enough. he's a big who blocks shots, rebounds, can put the ball on the floor and shoots better from anywhere on the floor, better than anyone else in the draft. His shooting splits are 60/40/75; his TS% is .702. that doesn't sound generational to you?



That sounds like a great college player, but how does that translate to the next level if he can't play the position he's best at because he's not physically ready? I don't really care about TS% at the college level for a big either, or in general, people used Fultz TS% as a reason to draft him over Tatum. How you translate to the next level is really more important than anything else, and I don't see generational talent from Chet, he doesn't create that much of his own offense for him to be on that level.


We're not talking about a typical big's TS%. He's shooting 60% from the field 40% from three and 75% from the free throw line. the shooting is going translate. the guys who are going to give him trouble early on, are the leagues 3 MVP front runners.
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Post#923 » by -YogiBiz- » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:45 pm

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Post#924 » by Marty McFly » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:50 pm

god shammgod wrote:arguing over 2 guys who we will never get. oh boy.

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Post#925 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:59 pm

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Thinking about fitting into the current NBA all the while having the possibility of drafting someone who could change the game isn't forward thinking enough. he's a big who blocks shots, rebounds, can put the ball on the floor and shoots better from anywhere on the floor, better than anyone else in the draft. His shooting splits are 60/40/75; his TS% is .702. that doesn't sound generational to you?



That sounds like a great college player, but how does that translate to the next level if he can't play the position he's best at because he's not physically ready? I don't really care about TS% at the college level for a big either, or in general, people used Fultz TS% as a reason to draft him over Tatum. How you translate to the next level is really more important than anything else, and I don't see generational talent from Chet, he doesn't create that much of his own offense for him to be on that level.


We're not talking about a typical big's TS%. He's shooting 60% from the field 40% from three and 75% from the free throw line. the shooting is going translate. the guys who are going to give him trouble early on, are the leagues 3 MVP front runners.




I disagree, guys like Jonas, Adams, Allen, Vucevic, Zubac, Drummond, Mitch etc will absolutely kill a center who is 195lbs, it's not just the 3 MVP bigs who will give him trouble. He's not like Mobley either, nobody knows whether or not he can switch onto smaller players and defend in space, which is going to be important if he has to play the 4 for his first couple years.

The TS% is overblown, he's a 75% freethrow shooter which is more telling and is spoon fed a lot of his baskets. The shot creation of Jabari lowers his percentage, he's taking more difficult shots but that's the player I'd want to draft based on potential. If it's between a play finisher and a creator, I'm taking the shot creator especially when they're so close in size.
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Post#927 » by -YogiBiz- » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:14 pm

Ayyye first run on Tankathon and we rise up to two and get Jabari. No more. That’s the one. We getting him y’all
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Post#928 » by Guano » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:27 pm

I can't get into these college games - doesn't have that excitement of rooting for your favorite team to lose.
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Post#929 » by -YogiBiz- » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:46 pm

Also why aren’t we talking more about Dyson Daniels or Jean Montero? Are they to close to our actual projected range for people to care about on the board?
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Post#930 » by dakomish23 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:48 pm

Mathurin. Mathurin. Mathurin.

Let’s gooo
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Post#931 » by -YogiBiz- » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:49 pm

dakomish23 wrote:Mathurin. Mathurin. Mathurin.

Let’s gooo


Yeah. Knowing us we will draft him with RJ and Grimes on the team already over a lead guard
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Post#932 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:17 pm

Caleb Love folks Caleb Loveeee

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Post#933 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 pm

Hmmm

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Post#934 » by Guano » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 pm

after watching 20mins of chet and 20+ years of knicks basketball if we somehow got lucky and won the draft I would be extremely pissed if we ended up with that.
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Post#935 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:25 pm

Cheat Codegren
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Post#936 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:26 pm

Guano wrote:after watching 20mins of chet and 20+ years of knicks basketball if we somehow got lucky and won the draft I would be extremely pissed if we ended up with that.


To not ruin greatness???
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Post#937 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:27 pm

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I dont get this logic.. a gm can get fired for passing on Chet too
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Post#938 » by Guano » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:29 pm

El Poochio wrote:
Guano wrote:after watching 20mins of chet and 20+ years of knicks basketball if we somehow got lucky and won the draft I would be extremely pissed if we ended up with that.


To not ruin greatness???


I'm not seeing greatness - but he is kinda hard to see when he turns sideways.
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Post#939 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:37 pm

Guano wrote:
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Guano wrote:after watching 20mins of chet and 20+ years of knicks basketball if we somehow got lucky and won the draft I would be extremely pissed if we ended up with that.


To not ruin greatness???


I'm not seeing greatness - but he is kinda hard to see when he turns sideways.


:o

I am expecting every defensive possession end with a chet block
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Post#940 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:41 pm

JJJ, Mobley at the 4 keep up with the new meta Chet is next
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B: Mikal Bridges | B. Hield | C. LeVert
B: Zion | D. Jones Jr
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