Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks

[Reddeye]

I'd be open to many options at WR. Sign Laundry to a 3 year deal.

Draft Chris Olave (1st) and David Bell (2nd)

1st) Laundry
2nd) Lazard
3rd) Cobb
4th) Olave
5th) Bell
6th) Rodgers

Other options....Julio, Fuller, Hilton, JuJu, OBJ

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I am not taking 2 wrs in the 1st round especially if they sign Landry. Landry, Lazard, Olave seems like a good 3 wr group.

I like Fuller. He seems like he is more than just a speed guy, but he has a hard time staying healthy.

[sdn40]

Get the offense back to where it was 2 years ago.

1. Get the offensive line healthy. It was serviceable last year, but a far cry from where it was. The running game suffered and put too much pressure on the pass game being behind the sticks. Steno did a great job, but the OL was obviously hampered last year.
2. Run first - pass second. Rodgers in the shotgun in an empty formation is not good for the offense. Get him back under center with the threat of the run and where all plays look the same (a signature of this offense). Use the hell out of Jones and Dillon.

Couple that with a defense that should easily be in the Top 10 in scoring and actually has a legit shot to be dominant and I honestly believe Adams will soon be forgotten

[agiaco]

Move on from MVS. Never been a guy I'd want to pay long term

[humanrefutation]

MVS is fine on a one-year deal. He seemed to be taking the next step this season before injuries burned him.

[skones]

I don't understand where this MVS looked like he was taking a step before his injuries is even coming from. Hard no on bringing him back. He's ass. It's one thing to use him as a decoy when Adams is playing opposite, it's another to have such a limited player without Adams playing opposite.

[DrWood]

I'm not in the loop on draft prospects. Going by the value chart, packaging the two 1sts is worth the 7th or 8th pick. Is there anyone worth doing that for who is projected there?

Unless you are certain you can get a generational guy at an important position, trading up significantly in the first is generally a bad idea. Usually trading down would be a better choice.

This is just going off the value chart--I don't know if the teams would do it, but trading the raiders pick for HOUS 2nd and 3rd and trading our own first round pick for BAL 2nd and 3rd round picks would give us:

2-37
2-45
2-53
2-60
3-68
3-76
3-92
4-132
4-140
5-171
7-228
7-249
7-258

I'd consider using/combining the 4-7th round picks in some way to move up (to pick a coveted player) or to acquire a player through trade.
As it stands, we'd have 4 2nds, 3 3rds, and 2 4th round picks. Filling out the roster with rookies (and no FRP, who are usually more expensive than they are worth, particularly in years 1-2) means they can have some cap space.

[DrWood]

You can spend $30m smarter than on a 30 year old WR.
The Raiders will be throwing away boatloads of cash on the back end of that deal. And without Rodgers, don't be surprised if the drop-off begins this year

Besides the whole drop off from Rodgers to another quarterback, they also had years of chemistry where there's been multiple post game interviews of them changing plays based on looks. Like even if raiders had their own Rodgers, you don't get that back that quickly.

Carr passed for 700 more yards than Rodgers did. Devante is going to have every opportunity to rack up catches and yards.

[MoMM]

MVS is fine on a one-year deal. He seemed to be taking the next step this season before injuries burned him.

Yes, bring him back on a 1-year deal (7-10mil is fine), let him walk next season. Next season we repeat the same process with another WR wanting a 1-year mid-range prove-deal. We have Rodgers, this makes it more enticing for anyone.

Sign Landry to be our long-term WR1, his stats are basically the same as Adams (except for the TDs, which could be improved with Rodgers throwing to him), draft 1 WR in the 1st round. As for the other 3 Top 60 picks, draft for other positions.

What about Tonyan? I didnt hear anything, but we have money to bring him back.

[DrWood]

The Pack absolutely need someone like MVS with spook the secondary speed but it would be nice if that guy could do a little more than MVS. I could live with bringing him back on a 1 year deal then drafting his deep threat replacement and using this as a bridge year.

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If all they want is speed, they can draft a speed guy.

[MoMM]

Curious note: We drafted Adams at #53 and traded him for #22+#53.

[DrWood]

I don't understand where this MVS looked like he was taking a step before his injuries is even coming from. Hard no on bringing him back. He's ass. It's one thing to use him as a decoy when Adams is playing opposite, it's another to have such a limited player without Adams playing opposite.

I checked the stats and you're right. He really hadn't shown improvement over his 4 years, with one exception--he had zero drops in 2021.

Pick the best fast WR available in the 2nd round (or possibly in the 3rd), and you've probably far exceeded what MVS can provide.

[LikeABosh]

I don't understand where this MVS looked like he was taking a step before his injuries is even coming from. Hard no on bringing him back. He's ass. It's one thing to use him as a decoy when Adams is playing opposite, it's another to have such a limited player without Adams playing opposite.

Me neither and I've been hearing this about him for awhile. He's clearly just a one-trick pony.

He's been pretty serviceable for a 5th round pick, but I don't think it's a huge priority bringing him back

[skones]

MVS is fine on a one-year deal. He seemed to be taking the next step this season before injuries burned him.

Yes, bring him back on a 1-year deal (7-10mil is fine), let him walk next season. Next season we repeat the same process with another WR wanting a 1-year mid-range prove-deal. We have Rodgers, this makes it more enticing for anyone.

Sign Landry to be our long-term WR1, his stats are basically the same as Adams (except for the TDs, which could be improved with Rodgers throwing to him), draft 1 WR in the 1st round. As for the other 3 Top 60 picks, draft for other positions.

What about Tonyan? I didnt hear anything, but we have money to bring him back.

Landry isn't a number one receiver and never has been, let alone an option for being "long term" at 29 years old. No his stats are not the same as Adams. He's not even on the same planet.

[MoMM]

MVS is fine on a one-year deal. He seemed to be taking the next step this season before injuries burned him.

Yes, bring him back on a 1-year deal (7-10mil is fine), let him walk next season. Next season we repeat the same process with another WR wanting a 1-year mid-range prove-deal. We have Rodgers, this makes it more enticing for anyone.

Sign Landry to be our long-term WR1, his stats are basically the same as Adams (except for the TDs, which could be improved with Rodgers throwing to him), draft 1 WR in the 1st round. As for the other 3 Top 60 picks, draft for other positions.

What about Tonyan? I didnt hear anything, but we have money to bring him back.

Landry isn't a number one receiver and never has been, let alone an option for being "long term" at 29 years old. No his stats are not the same as Adams. He's not even on the same planet.

Well, maybe long-term was too much, perhaps 3-year window? Are you comfortable with this?

Landry: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/jarvis-landry-14473/stats-valuation/
Adams: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/davante-adams-14463/stats-valuation/

I am not saying he is the same level as Adams, I said their stats are basically the same and it can be improved with Rodgers throwing to him.

[Dominator83]

Outsider here back in peace!

I really don't think you guys need to be sweating the WR position. IMO the QB makes the receivers. A receiver is only as good as the QB feeding him.

Take Allen Robinson for example. He was lackluster with the Bears. Watch now that he's playing with a real QB that can throw him the ball, I'm sure it's gonna be night and day. A great QB can make any WR look good

[ReddRum]

Hard pass on MVS.

Would like one of JuJu (preferred) and Landry and then Fuller for speed. If we could somehow land 2 of those 3 and then draft a WR high I think we will be fine. If we can’t get at least one of those 3 then I look to make a trade for a young WR on a reasonable contract. We have plenty of draft capital now…

[MickeyDavis]

Don Hutson was amazing

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[Wisky4life]

I'd be open to many options at WR. Sign Laundry to a 3 year deal.

Draft Chris Olave (1st) and David Bell (2nd)

1st) Laundry
2nd) Lazard
3rd) Cobb
4th) Olave
5th) Bell
6th) Rodgers

Other options....Julio, Fuller, Hilton, JuJu, OBJ

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I am not taking 2 wrs in the 1st round especially if they sign Landry. Landry, Lazard, Olave seems like a good 3 wr group.

I like Fuller. He seems like he is more than just a speed guy, but he has a hard time staying healthy.

In my scenario I was taking Olave with the 1st Round Pick 22 and then take David Bell with the 2nd Round Pick 53.

[Matches Malone]

I wonder if there was any strain on Davante and Aaron's relationship because of all the business stuff going on. Davante had to sit there and watch his buddy talk about the people all year, only to turn around and take a big chunk of the pie, leaving less room for everyone else.

I'm sure Rodgers will use this as fuel either way... Pick Carr over me? Chip on shoulder activated.

[JimmyTheKid]

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There it is.

I'm having an extremely difficult time wrapping my head around all of this. "Always wanted to play for the Raiders" (they're in Vegas now) and "missed playing with his college buddy" (Derek freaking Carr) doesn't add up to me. There has to be more to this story. I'd be more inclined to believe he's just sick of living in Green Bay, he felt disrespected by the Packers organization, or he's simply over Rodgers' offseason antics.

Davante will forever be one of my favorite players. Just absolutely humiliating defenders off the line of scrimmage like nobody in league history. But he's about to find out real quick the difference in talent level between Rodgers and Carr. What a weird f***ing thing.