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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1481 » by WRau1 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:23 pm

I don't think there's any drama between Adams and Rodgers, Adams was just telling a story a few months back about how a text Rodgers sent him made him cry (in a good way). Seems more of an issue between Adams and the Packers because they were negotiating earlier last off-season and this one. I'm guessing he felt disrespected and knows that Rodgers won't be playing much longer so he bolted.
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Post#1482 » by mlloyd10 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:28 pm

One of the best trades in Packers History. Finally taking the Bill Belichick approach. Trading a guy at the right time.

Devante got paid - Good for him

Packers clear space, get "prime" picks and get to sign more guys.
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Post#1483 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:30 pm

WRau1 wrote:I don't think there's any drama between Adams and Rodgers, Adams was just telling a story a few months back about how a text Rodgers sent him made him cry (in a good way). Seems more of an issue between Adams and the Packers because they were negotiating earlier last off-season and this one. I'm guessing he felt disrespected and knows that Rodgers won't be playing much longer so he bolted.


Thats where I'm at. If so, Gutey stays bricking the layups. GM's spend their entire careers trying to find talent like Rodgers and Adams. But its equally important retain the talent. If that means massaging an ego you massage an ego. If that means working on a new contract, you work on a new contract. Not rocket science to prioritize your all-world players.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1484 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:31 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:One of the best trades in Packers History. Finally taking the Bill Belichick approach. Trading a guy at the right time.

Devante got paid - Good for him

Packers clear space, get "prime" picks and get to sign more guys.


Uh, we offered Davante a bigger contract than the Raiders did.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1485 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:33 pm

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There it is.


I'm having an extremely difficult time wrapping my head around all of this. "Always wanted to play for the Raiders" (they're in Vegas now) and "missed playing with his college buddy" (Derek freaking Carr) doesn't add up to me. There has to be more to this story. I'd be more inclined to believe he's just sick of living in Green Bay, he felt disrespected by the Packers organization, or he's simply over Rodgers' offseason antics.

Davante will forever be one of my favorite players. Just absolutely humiliating defenders off the line of scrimmage like nobody in league history. But he's about to find out real quick the difference in talent level between Rodgers and Carr. What a weird f***ing thing.


Apparently he recently bought a house near Carr in Vegas.
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Post#1486 » by MoMM » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:37 pm

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Post#1487 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:42 pm

The more time I've had to chew on this deal the more I like it.
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Post#1488 » by MoMM » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:46 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:The more time I've had to chew on this deal the more I like it.

Agreed, I never thought I would be OK with trading Adams. We lost WR-talent wise, because it's very unlikely we will be able to get a Top3 NFL player, but having cap space to sign a replacement WR, improve the roster and draft 2 good, young and cheap players down the road are crazy good.

Now it's up to our GM to make all this potential become reality, but I expect good signings and 2 All-Pro, 1 meh-player and 1 bust in our first 4 picks, perhaps some trade ups, trade downs as usual by our FO.
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Post#1489 » by crkone » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:53 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:The more time I've had to chew on this deal the more I like it.

Agreed, I never thought I would be OK with trading Adams. We lost WR-talent wise, because it's very unlikely we will be able to get a Top3 NFL player, but having cap space to sign a replacement WR, improve the roster and draft 2 good, young and cheap players down the road are crazy good.

Now it's up to our GM to make all this potential become reality, but I expect good signings and 2 All-Pro, 1 meh-player and 1 bust in our first 4 picks, perhaps some trade ups, trade downs as usual by our FO.
I think seeing that stat with or without him is pretty eye opening. They definitely need to upgrade WR and TE though, with or without Davante.

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Post#1490 » by M-C-G » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:53 pm

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WRau1 wrote:I don't think there's any drama between Adams and Rodgers, Adams was just telling a story a few months back about how a text Rodgers sent him made him cry (in a good way). Seems more of an issue between Adams and the Packers because they were negotiating earlier last off-season and this one. I'm guessing he felt disrespected and knows that Rodgers won't be playing much longer so he bolted.


Thats where I'm at. If so, Gutey stays bricking the layups. GM's spend their entire careers trying to find talent like Rodgers and Adams. But its equally important retain the talent. If that means massaging an ego you massage an ego. If that means working on a new contract, you work on a new contract. Not rocket science to prioritize your all-world players.


We turned a 30 year old WR into a first and second round draft pick and avoided a 150M contract to be paid out entirely in his 30s.

If that is bricking the layups, let's keep it going. Brick by brick.
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Post#1491 » by Treebeard » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:57 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:The more time I've had to chew on this deal the more I like it.

Agreed, I never thought I would be OK with trading Adams. We lost WR-talent wise, because it's very unlikely we will be able to get a Top3 NFL player, but having cap space to sign a replacement WR, improve the roster and draft 2 good, young and cheap players down the road are crazy good.

Now it's up to our GM to make all this potential become reality, but I expect good signings and 2 All-Pro, 1 meh-player and 1 bust in our first 4 picks, perhaps some trade ups, trade downs as usual by our FO.


There's the "making lemonade from lemons" aspect to this whole off-season, but in the end, trading Davante should prove to be a smart move.

Now, convert the improved draft pick options to some useful players!
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Post#1492 » by M-C-G » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:01 pm

skones wrote:I don't understand where this MVS looked like he was taking a step before his injuries is even coming from. Hard no on bringing him back. He's ass. It's one thing to use him as a decoy when Adams is playing opposite, it's another to have such a limited player without Adams playing opposite.



The reason people were saying that is because he was making some absolutely routine catches that normal WR make that weren't just deep balls. And it was like a handful of catches most guys would make.

Byron Pringle just signed a 1 year 6M deal, it would seem that is the same tier as MVS.
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Post#1493 » by M-C-G » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:06 pm

Had we traded Rodgers, and got roughly first, second, third round this year and first and second next year, we would be in an incredible rebuild position.

I get why people would rather hang on with Rodgers for one or two more seasons, but man, we could have really accelerated this thing with just trading Rodgers and Adams. I hope we win a title, but I could see hanging on too long backfiring
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Post#1494 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:17 pm

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WRau1 wrote:I don't think there's any drama between Adams and Rodgers, Adams was just telling a story a few months back about how a text Rodgers sent him made him cry (in a good way). Seems more of an issue between Adams and the Packers because they were negotiating earlier last off-season and this one. I'm guessing he felt disrespected and knows that Rodgers won't be playing much longer so he bolted.


Thats where I'm at. If so, Gutey stays bricking the layups. GM's spend their entire careers trying to find talent like Rodgers and Adams. But its equally important retain the talent. If that means massaging an ego you massage an ego. If that means working on a new contract, you work on a new contract. Not rocket science to prioritize your all-world players.


We turned a 30 year old WR into a first and second round draft pick and avoided a 150M contract to be paid out entirely in his 30s.

If that is bricking the layups, let's keep it going. Brick by brick.


I guess thats one way to look at it. Another is we offered MORE money to a 30 year old WR that would have put the organization on the hook for MORE than 150 million paid out entirely in his 30's but for whatever the reason he rejected the deal... So you're inferring what here exactly? That Gutey should continue to have his Plan A's crumble and we should shower him with praise over his Plan B's? Talk about supreme confidence in your GM.

I'd personally rather have the best WR in the league for our short Super Bowl window. Worry about the dark ages later. But the trade can still work out just fine because we have the best QB any of us have consistently watched lead a team or throw a football.
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Post#1495 » by MoMM » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:20 pm

I think that when you have a HoF QB you shouldn't be rushing to trade him and should use him until the last drop, and then, after he is done, you will have plenty of time to maybe find another one.
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Post#1496 » by Finn » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:27 pm

Wisky4life wrote:I'd be open to many options at WR. Sign Laundry to a 3 year deal.

Draft Chris Olave (1st) and David Bell (2nd)

1st) Laundry
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3rd) Cobb
4th) Olave
5th) Bell
6th) Rodgers

Other options....Julio, Fuller, Hilton, JuJu, OBJ

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1497 » by Swan Vox » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:28 pm

Not much the Packers can do if Adams had his mind made up. Considering all the negatives, Green Bay did fairly well in this deal. As much as I loved watching Tae, his production can hopefully be reasonable reproduced by committee much more than trying to replace an MVP generational QB. (And big oof on 28per for a WR, best in the league or not)

Now we see what Gutey can do with the new resources at his disposal. Still have to hit on the picks to make the plan work.
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Post#1498 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:30 pm

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Post#1499 » by M-C-G » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:31 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:So you're inferring what here exactly? .


You know exactly what I am inferring here, that this was likely the best outcome for the organization. Just also happens to be the best outcome for Adams(he got what he wanted) and a good outcome for Oakland(they got what they wanted).
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Post#1500 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:33 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:This offseason is like a herb kohl one foot in one foot out offseason. If you make that Rodgers deal with Denver the rebuild is over and you’re only question is QB with time, money and draft assets all on your side

meh, Herbie never had a Rodgers and Bucks were never this close, even if you included 2001.

More comparable will be the Bucks in 3 years will Giannis and maxed out/aging Jrue and Midds going for it one last time while having tax casualities.

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