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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1541 » by M-C-G » Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:57 pm

emunney wrote:Initial reports were that we were getting a player in addition to picks. I guess not?

Wouldn’t shock me if we were tinkering with getting a player back and just opted for the picks instead


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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1542 » by CWoodfan » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:14 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I can't see the Rams trading Woods to us.

Unlike last year Rodgers will be at all mini camps and OTA's, which will be necessary with the turnover at WR. He also needs to work out on his own with some of the new guys we sign/draft.


Rodgers being at mini-camp will make all the difference in the world.

It will make Lazard not look like the slowest starting WR in the NFL, put a spring back into old man Cobby's step, and undoubtedly lead to a break out season for Cobb's backup in the slot Amari Rodgers - so much talent in that 2021 3rd rounder just a waitin' to bust out.

Add one of the many outstanding, uninjured, not washed vets still on the market (say OBJ or possibly Woods or Julio or Fuller) and a top pick on a WR (because in 2022 rookie WRs can help you win SBs -- unlike in 2020 when taking a WR in round 1 would not have helped the Packers in any way, shape, or form) and this WR group will be just as good as ever.

And anyone not excited about the TEs on roster just does not understand how this team has gone all in to win another Super Bowl.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1543 » by RRyder823 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:19 pm

oh look the "all in" song is playing again

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Post#1544 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:20 pm

All depends on who is available, but would love a 1 year prove it vet with 2 WRs drafted first 3 rounds. Rodgers may be able to cover weaknesses for one more year but is going need some help 2-3 years from now as he declines. Might as well invest now.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1545 » by RRyder823 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:34 pm

The longer this trade settles the better it feels (and it felt good to begin with)

If they can manage to use the added cap space to resign Douglas and then sign a WR like Landry or JuJu and maybe another vet (Fuller, Hooper etc etc) I'd 100% argue those 3 players give more production then just Adams. I loved Adams but he still just one player and this isn't the NBA where 1 star player overrides 3-4 lesser ones.

Add on 2 extra picks in the top 53 and this (with caveat they're able to use the cap space on a few vets of course) can/should make us better this season.

But of course that's not as "all in" as having the 30 million a year WR on the roster so that means it's a bad idea even if it doesn't mean a worse team this season

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1546 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:37 pm

M-C-G wrote:I’m just saying, we got the better end of the deal here. And if Adams gets hurt it is by a wide margin.

With that said it was cool to see everyone get what they wanted well except for JTK. But in a small way he got what he wanted too, because he can turn this win and pretend it is a loss and complain about Gute. The irony being the years he spent complaining about Bucks fans bashing Kidd and the management. Strange times indeed


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"If our traded former superstar gets hurt we'll definitely win the trade." You could make that declaration after every single trade in sports history. Followed by "its a win because I say its a win." Thats good stuff. And don't you mean 43-26, leading Luka to his best season as a pro, Dallas Mavericks Head Coach, Jason Kidd? I Kidd I Kidd.

Obviously this trade isn't black and white. Most of the sane football world would call it a short term loss/long term win for the Packers. Lets just hope your favorite player, Aaron Rodgers :D, can choose the best weapons to help him win another Super Bowl en route to a first ballot Hall of Fame selection to cap his glorious career.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1547 » by M-C-G » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:43 pm

M-C-G wrote:I’m just saying, we got the better end of the deal here.


JimmyTheKid wrote:
"If our traded former superstar gets hurt we'll definitely win the trade."


Such a silly kid.
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Post#1548 » by ggatski1 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:50 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
Read on Twitter


Yup thats what I figured.



I see this however people need to remember it took all the way to June before we knew Rodgers was coming back las year. Why would we have paid Adams $142 mil then. If Rodgers doesn't come back no reason to pay such a high salary. Also, even when Rodgers decided to come back, we didn't know if he was only coming back for only a year until just a week ago. Again, no way do you pay Adams this much money back then. It would not make any sense. Media again spinning this to make the Packers front office look bad, a bunch of BS. Rodgers may have inadvertently caused this with the issues he had last year.

Additionally, let's look at how this gives us 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Also a total of 11 picks only 2nd to the Jags which helps us for the future, building a deep roster and special team players (rookies are on special teams a lot). This is not bad with also making a run the next few years.
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Post#1549 » by CWoodfan » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:09 pm

ggatski1 wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Read on Twitter


Yup thats what I figured.


Additionally, let's look at how this gives us 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Also a total of 11 picks only 2nd to the Jags which helps us for the future, .


Shhhhhhhh, don't let the CAT OUT OF THE BAG.

Of course any thinking person paying attention knows taht the Packers, as always, are more interested in preparing for the future than going all in to win a Super Bowl but with all the recent early playoff exits the Front Office is trying to sell the narrative to the masses that they really are committed to going ALL IN.

Can't have the fan base exposed to the truth here now can we?
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Post#1550 » by M-C-G » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:15 pm

Weird to think about, but did that David Bakhtiari knee injury honestly cost us a shot at playing in the last two super bowls. I think you could make the case it did.
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Post#1551 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:17 pm

CWoodfan wrote:
ggatski1 wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Read on Twitter


Yup thats what I figured.


Additionally, let's look at how this gives us 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Also a total of 11 picks only 2nd to the Jags which helps us for the future, .


Shhhhhhhh, don't let the CAT OUT OF THE BAG.

Of course any thinking person paying attention knows taht the Packers, as always, are more interested in preparing for the future than going all in to win a Super Bowl but with all the recent early playoff exits the Front Office is trying to sell the narrative to the masses that they really are committed to going ALL IN.

Can't have the fan base exposed to the truth here now can we?


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Post#1552 » by LUKE23 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:31 pm

People do realize that 22/53 + being able to keep Douglas + the extra cap space to add another WR could very well make us better in 2022 and beyond right? I mean, it's a RELATIVELY small sample size but it's not like the offense has gone under without DA in the games he's missed.

I do hope we can find a taker for Love for another 2nd to give us 5 top 2 round picks though.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1553 » by Treebeard » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:37 pm

I know I'm being Debbie Downer, but if they do flip Jordan Love for a draft pick (a very reasonable idea), then there had better be a damn sight better backup than Kurt Benkert. Rogers last two years were relatively injury free, but that's no guarantee going forward on a high mileage body.
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Post#1554 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:41 pm

I work in recruiting and deal with high salary positions and it's not uncommon for feathers to get ruffled in a salary negotiation. It happens. But it's fair to question if Gute the the FO are doing a good enough job with player relations, which is an important aspect of being a GM.

It's also not hard to see how a rich and famous athlete who grew up in California would prefer living in Las Vegas over Green Bay. That's not exactly a crazy concept and having his college QB who's his age helped.

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Post#1555 » by zmanishere11 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:44 pm

Treebeard wrote:I know I'm being Debbie Downer, but if they do flip Jordan Love for a draft pick (a very reasonable idea), then there had better be a damn sight better backup than Kurt Benkert. Rogers last two years were relatively injury free, but that's no guarantee going forward on a high mileage body.


Love still has value to GB for this year. IF we trade him now we'd get a pick in a draft we already have many picks and it costs us more in cap loss. Plus we need a backup anyways.

If we keep him this year we HAVE to trade him next off-season as we won't be able to pay him after his 4th year which gives us zero leverage.

Either way he's gone.
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Post#1556 » by zmanishere11 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:47 pm

After the Adams trade, I think my wet dream 1st round pick scenario is one of the Ohio St WR's with 22 and then Jameson Williams with 28.

Pair that with a veteran WR or MVS and I think WR is no issue going into next year with a wild card in Williams entering the back end of the season. After this year, those two picks are probably your 1 and 2 WR's for the future - let's get it done
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Post#1557 » by Finn » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:50 pm

LUKE23 wrote:While it is generally rare to be better off losing an all-time great, HOF talent, I think this is one situation where that could be the case.

For one, the recent evidence on WR production once guys hit 30 is pretty damning. Now, in general, some of HOF greats have bucked that trend, but it's still a possibility that Adams isn't producing anywhere close to his contract for the back half.

Now, that doesn't help us at all for 2022. But that said, if this allows us to retain Douglas, add Juju and/or keep MVS, and draft one or two WR in the first four picks, we could be a better team in 2022.

My biggest complaint with this deal is that if they knew DA wanted out (and from all reports this has been brewing for a while), you need to trade him prior to the WR FA market drying up. Because while draft picks are nice, counting almost exclusively on rookies (and meh talent like Lazard, Cobb, Amari) is a very risky proposition for an "all in" team.

Right now my hope is Juju, MVS, and Olave.

Except that trades weren't allowed prior to 4PM on March 16 (assuming I'm reading this correctly).

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Post#1558 » by LUKE23 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:10 pm

zmanishere11 wrote:After the Adams trade, I think my wet dream 1st round pick scenario is one of the Ohio St WR's with 22 and then Jameson Williams with 28.

Pair that with a veteran WR or MVS and I think WR is no issue going into next year with a wild card in Williams entering the back end of the season. After this year, those two picks are probably your 1 and 2 WR's for the future - let's get it done


I don't think they double up on WR in the first round, but IMO they better be taking 2 with the first four picks. They will definitely go OL and DL/Edge in first two rounds as well IMO barring anything crazy happening.

They are pretty damn set on defense right now other than another DL to pair with Clark with Campbell and presumably Douglas back. They could use another edge too, but whoever they take there likely isn't getting starter snaps next season.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1559 » by Iheartfootball » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:29 pm

ggatski1 wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
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Yup thats what I figured.



I see this however people need to remember it took all the way to June before we knew Rodgers was coming back las year. Why would we have paid Adams $142 mil then. If Rodgers doesn't come back no reason to pay such a high salary. Also, even when Rodgers decided to come back, we didn't know if he was only coming back for only a year until just a week ago. Again, no way do you pay Adams this much money back then. It would not make any sense. Media again spinning this to make the Packers front office look bad, a bunch of BS. Rodgers may have inadvertently caused this with the issues he had last year.

Additionally, let's look at how this gives us 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Also a total of 11 picks only 2nd to the Jags which helps us for the future, building a deep roster and special team players (rookies are on special teams a lot). This is not bad with also making a run the next few years.


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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1560 » by skones » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:38 pm

JuJu going to the Chiefs is a total gut punch.

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