Welcome to Virtual Boston, Yam Madar!

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latest Madar game:

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Notice the move he does at the :43 mark. Look familiar? He did the same move in summer league for us and he's done it a couple other teams this season. He's scored every time I've seen him do it. Seems like his go-to move if he wants to take his man off the dribble and try to score.

It's a good move, too. Even though I've seen him do it a few times now, the way he start it off and. sets his man up, I think he's going to keep driving it towards the rim - he gets his defender playing the drive, then stops on a dime, does a spin move and then right up into the turnaround jumper.

[Curmudgeon]

Who is that guy draining threes from the corner for Megga Mozart? Was that Nikola Jovic? Some say he's the best young player in Europe after Wembanyama.

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Who is that guy draining threes from the corner for Megga Mozart? Was that Nikola Jovic? Some say he's the best young player in Europe after Wembanyama.

That's him, yeah. Jovic was 3/4 shooting 3's this game. Had 14 points. He's 6'10", still only 18 yrs old and is shooting about 37% from 3. Pretty bad defensively, though..

Jovic is probably gonna go somewhere in the 10-20 range on draft night. He has a teammate on Mezza Mozzart (Nikola Durisic) who isn't eligible to be drafted till 2023 but is likely a lottery pick.

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latest Madar game:

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Notice the move he does at the :43 mark. Look familiar? He did the same move in summer league for us and he's done it a couple other teams this season. He's scored every time I've seen him do it. Seems like his go-to move if he wants to take his man off the dribble and try to score.

It's a nice move all right. Those neon pink unis... horrid! Are they wearing them as a punishment?

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From Friday's game vs Germany.

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[Elrod is Back]

I know these highlight videos are misleading as hell, but these are nice highlights. He looks to be worth bringing over next, possibly as soon as this fall. Let Madar and Begarin play 35 mpg in the G-league and get coached up. Ideally on two-way deals, if that can be negotiated.

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Next Celtic who's gonna have his jersey retired after KG.

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Yam is up to 44.8% from 3 on the season. Pretty impressive that the 3 pt % actually went up this season when he moved up to a more competitive league.

3 pt % last 3 seasons:

2021-2022 at age 21 = 44.8%
2020-2021 at age 20 = 41%
2019-2020 at age 19 = 28%

Not only did he increase the 3 pt % this season in a tougher league, but the insane jump he made last season from 28% to 41% is also impressive. This. dude clearly works hard on his game.

Here's the video with Yam's full highlights from yesterday's game. I know everyone nitpicks him by saying he's got to get stronger physically but if you pause the video at :54 it does look like he's bulked up a decent amount..

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Also, if anyone is curious about the competition level Madar is going against. This article should help. Madar is in the Adriatic League (no. 8. on the list) and Begarin is in France Pro A (7th on the list)

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18470135/fran-fraschilla-rankings-world-top-12-basketball-leagues-nba

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Yam is up to 44.8% from 3 on the season. Pretty impressive that the 3 pt % actually went up this season when he moved up to a more competitive league.

3 pt % last 3 seasons:

2021-2022 at age 21 = 44.8%
2020-2021 at age 20 = 41%
2019-2020 at age 19 = 28%

Not only did he increase the 3 pt % this season in a tougher league, but the insane jump he made last season from 28% to 41% is also impressive. This. dude clearly works hard on his game.

Here's the video with Yam's full highlights from yesterday's game. I know everyone nitpicks him by saying he's got to get stronger physically but if you pause the video at :54 it does look like he's bulked up a decent amount..

Watch on YouTube

Also, if anyone is curious about the competition level Madar is going against. This article should help. Madar is in the Adriatic League (no. 8. on the list) and Begarin is in France Pro A (7th on the list)

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18470135/fran-fraschilla-rankings-world-top-12-basketball-leagues-nba

A couple things to keep in mind concerning the relative strength of different leagues in Europe. Players sign shorter contracts and as a result there is much more roster turnover so a league's standing can shift pretty quickly. So that article is somewhat out of date already.

I don't think it's the place to go into the politics but the turkish economy is in a massive downward spiral and most clubs can't afford the same caliber of players that they could even a couple years ago. For obvious reasons, the russian league is suffering a massive exodus of talent right now. I'm not sure that the Bundesliga or the Serie A are better than the Adriatic League or Pro A either. Regardless what is most relevant to Celtics fans is not which league is the best but which one does a better job of preparing prospect for the NBA.

In that regard, Pro A and the Adriatic League have proven arguably the best pipeline in recent years outside of the Euroleague and the NBL. I do wonder if Pro A doesn't get underrated because the top of the league is relatively weaker than other top european leagues. It has much better depth though and as a result you get a real, physical game every week. There isn't a powerhouse that beats everybody by 20 every time. It's why french prospect are usually best equipped to handle the physicality of the NBA and when they bust it's more so because they can't shoot than because they can't handle contact (because those guys have been weeded out already).

[Elrod is Back]

I've seen enough of Yam to think he should get brought over next season, and play his heart out for Maine.

[Curmudgeon]

He loves his dribble too much. The rest was ok, and that was a big trey at the end.

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I've seen enough of Yam to think he should get brought over next season, and play his heart out for Maine.

he's not going to do that. We already offered him a 2-way contract spot for this season - he turned it down. Probably because he can make more $ playing overseas and also because if he's going to uproot his life, move across the world away from all of his friends/family to a foreign country where he doesn't know the language, culture, currency, etc. he's only gonna do it if he's earned himself a roster spot on the 15 man roster with a real chance at earning minutes.

International players. For the most part, they're either good enough to be rotation players for an NBA team or they're playing overseas. That in between stuff (last couple guys at the end of the bench, 2-way contract spot, g-league) you typically don't see international players filling these spots - they're better off playing overseas..

[bucknersrevenge]

I've seen enough of Yam to think he should get brought over next season, and play his heart out for Maine.

he's not going to do that. We already offered him a 2-way contract spot for this season - he turned it down. Probably because he can make more $ playing overseas and also because if he's going to uproot his life, move across the world away from all of his friends/family to a foreign country where he doesn't know the language, culture, currency, etc. he's only gonna do it if he's earned himself a roster spot on the 15 man roster with a real chance at earning minutes.

International players. For the most part, they're either good enough to be rotation players for an NBA team or they're playing overseas. That in between stuff (last couple guys at the end of the bench, 2-way contract spot, g-league) you typically don't see international players filling these spots - they're better off playing overseas..

I remember before this season you and I had a little back and forth regarding Madar and his relative comparison to Payton Pritchard. I thought at the time back then, he looked like he needed to get stronger. He does look a little bit stronger. Here's the thing: Payton's ceiling as a shooter is higher than Madar's. But I think Madar's ceiling is higher just about everywhere else, including defensively. I look forward to seeing Madar come back next year for Summer League. He got a little banged up last year. This Summer League, I expect him and Begarin to be the focal points along with Sam Hauser. But with Smart now full entrenched as the starting PG. You got White handling off the bench and obviously JT handles significantly as well, I'm a little curious about fit. Pritchard's profile as a C&S guy really is beginning to mesh well with this group.

[Elrod is Back]

I've seen enough of Yam to think he should get brought over next season, and play his heart out for Maine.

he's not going to do that. We already offered him a 2-way contract spot for this season - he turned it down. Probably because he can make more $ playing overseas and also because if he's going to uproot his life, move across the world away from all of his friends/family to a foreign country where he doesn't know the language, culture, currency, etc. he's only gonna do it if he's earned himself a roster spot on the 15 man roster with a real chance at earning minutes.

International players. For the most part, they're either good enough to be rotation players for an NBA team or they're playing overseas. That in between stuff (last couple guys at the end of the bench, 2-way contract spot, g-league) you typically don't see international players filling these spots - they're better off playing overseas..

I am not suggesting a two-way deal for Madar. I sign him as the 15th man, at an NBA minimum salary, but have him play mostly for Maine.

[Patsfan1081]

Yam is up to 44.8% from 3 on the season. Pretty impressive that the 3 pt % actually went up this season when he moved up to a more competitive league.

3 pt % last 3 seasons:

2021-2022 at age 21 = 44.8%
2020-2021 at age 20 = 41%
2019-2020 at age 19 = 28%

Not only did he increase the 3 pt % this season in a tougher league, but the insane jump he made last season from 28% to 41% is also impressive. This. dude clearly works hard on his game.

Here's the video with Yam's full highlights from yesterday's game. I know everyone nitpicks him by saying he's got to get stronger physically but if you pause the video at :54 it does look like he's bulked up a decent amount..

Watch on YouTube

Also, if anyone is curious about the competition level Madar is going against. This article should help. Madar is in the Adriatic League (no. 8. on the list) and Begarin is in France Pro A (7th on the list)

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18470135/fran-fraschilla-rankings-world-top-12-basketball-leagues-nba

What is he taking though, like one and half attempts per game? Honestly Im not very impressed with either draft and stash, though the french kid looks like he might have a easier time sticking though as he looks like he can be a very solid defender and has good athleticism. This team could very well have numerous open roster spots however with the lack of first rounders recently and only a mid level available this summer. Its going to be a lackluster summer league….

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Yam is up to 44.8% from 3 on the season. Pretty impressive that the 3 pt % actually went up this season when he moved up to a more competitive league.

3 pt % last 3 seasons:

2021-2022 at age 21 = 44.8%
2020-2021 at age 20 = 41%
2019-2020 at age 19 = 28%

Not only did he increase the 3 pt % this season in a tougher league, but the insane jump he made last season from 28% to 41% is also impressive. This. dude clearly works hard on his game.

Here's the video with Yam's full highlights from yesterday's game. I know everyone nitpicks him by saying he's got to get stronger physically but if you pause the video at :54 it does look like he's bulked up a decent amount..

Watch on YouTube

Also, if anyone is curious about the competition level Madar is going against. This article should help. Madar is in the Adriatic League (no. 8. on the list) and Begarin is in France Pro A (7th on the list)

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18470135/fran-fraschilla-rankings-world-top-12-basketball-leagues-nba

What is he taking though, like one and half attempts per game? Honestly Im not very impressed with either draft and stash, though the french kid looks like he might have a easier time sticking though as he looks like he can be a very solid defender and has good athleticism. This team could very well have numerous open roster spots however with the lack of first rounders recently and only a mid level available this summer. Its going to be a lackluster summer league….

2 attempts a game. Not a ton, but certainly respectable.

"It's going to be a lackluster summer league?" lol dude you sound really angry, chill. Who cares about the summer league? Kings won the summer league championship last summer - guess what? they haven't made the NBA playoffs in like 20 years lol. we're trying to win NBA games, not summer league games.

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What is he taking though, like one and half attempts per game? Honestly Im not very impressed with either draft and stash, though the french kid looks like he might have a easier time sticking though as he looks like he can be a very solid defender and has good athleticism. This team could very well have numerous open roster spots however with the lack of first rounders recently and only a mid level available this summer. Its going to be a lackluster summer league….

You can't compare raw attempts number between the NBA and Europe, there are far fewer possessions per game overseas.

Per 36 minutes last two seasons:
Grant Williams 4.7 3PA 40.6 3P%
Yam Madar 4.6 3PA 42.0 3P%

I understand that it's still only a sample of a couple hundred shots for Madar so a hot streak can skew the numbers a little. However, he has shot over 81% from the line during the same time period. He has also shot above 40% from three in three different leagues, on two different teams in two different systems. It remains to be see if he can get his shot off against NBA length and athleticism but right now there's no reason to doubt that his outside shot is real.

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