Official Scottie Barnes Thread 2

[WuTang_CMB]

I'm sure Masai got the last word, but I really think that this was a Webster pick.

Dont think so. Barnes is a masai type of player through and through.

He is everyone's type of player. Just a great basketball player.

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

[PD28]

[DreamTeam09]

He wasn't doing this in college, where did he can get this from.

If OG had this he'd be the best player in the league

[gbball]

Dont think so. Barnes is a masai type of player through and through.

He is everyone's type of player. Just a great basketball player.

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

[Madhouse]

He is everyone's type of player. Just a great basketball player.

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

yeah, I'm pretty baffled. This isn't nearly as big of a surprise as people think.

He was a top 5 recruit and top 5 pick. He was expected to be very, very good. This also was not some genius pick. We picked the best player on the board, an absolute elite athlete with insane skills for his size.

[gbball]

A week ago I thought Mobley was clearly the better prospect over Barnes...but Barnes keeps showing me something and now I'm not so sure. And you know he's got other levels he can reach too.

His athleticism looked on point these last couple of games. Not sure what it is with him...maybe he's the type to grow through adversity and the long season and heavy minutes just made him stronger when he got a chance to catch his breath at the all-star break. Maybe the extra rest between games these last few...this bodes well for how we'll be able to perform in the playoffs where games are more spaced out. When he has space he really gets up well. But when space is tight...he takes small, choppy steps.

For jumping off one or two feet, it's good to take a big lunge step into your load up to get more lift...Barnes is good at avoiding barreling into people in the lane, but I think him not get his footwork solid makes it difficult for him to load up and finish strong overtop of people. Footwork is something he should work on in the offseason too.

If he finds ways to get a more powerful takeoff step on drives and learn to dropstep and seal when he's posting up he'll finish even more consistently when he gets in there.

Also needs to learn to handle the extra attention he's been getting. I find that at this point he's either looking to pass or score...he needs to get to the point where he's prepared to make either play depending on what the defense is doing. This is the thing I'm most confident in him figuring out.

Either way, if he can find a way to consistently play at this level, the sky is the limit. I still expect super high highs and super low lows until he finds his footing.

[XTC]

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

yeah, I'm pretty baffled. This isn't nearly as big of a surprise as people think.

He was a top 5 recruit and top 5 pick. He was expected to be very, very good. This also was not some genius pick. We picked the best player on the board, an absolute elite athlete with insane skills for his size.

Huge Scottie fan before the draft. I wrote on the draft forum that Scottie had the highest ceiling in the draft. A guy that big, long strong, athleticism, handle doesn't come by very often.

Anyways I feel it was mostly Raptor fans who where upset because they wanted Suggs. Barnes pre-draft was viewed as OG Anunoby on this board which never made sense other than the fact they both played defense. Barnes scoring repertoire, handles, vision, and general offensive talent was something OG never had, so the comparison was so lazy.

[Madhouse]

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

yeah, I'm pretty baffled. This isn't nearly as big of a surprise as people think.

He was a top 5 recruit and top 5 pick. He was expected to be very, very good. This also was not some genius pick. We picked the best player on the board, an absolute elite athlete with insane skills for his size.

Huge Scottie fan before the draft. I wrote on the draft forum that Scottie had the highest ceiling in the draft. A guy that big, long strong, athleticism, handle doesn't come by very often.

Anyways I feel it was mostly Raptor fans who where upset because they wanted Suggs. Barnes pre-draft was viewed as OG Anunoby on this board which never made sense other than the fact they both played defense. Barnes scoring repertoire, handles, vision, and general offensive talent was something OG never had, so the comparison was so lazy.

I had him as my number 2 prospect in the draft with a higher ceiling than Mobley but less likely to reach it so I placed Mobley ahead of him because he looked better in college. But Scottie has already caught up to Mobley, so I can't take Mobley over him anymore.

[Madhouse]

Man this thread is a GEM

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2103557

That thread is an all-timer.

[vulture]

He wasn't doing this in college, where did he can get this from.

If OG had this he'd be the best player in the league

Scottie looking like the key to a switching defense in the playoffs.

[Madhouse]

Man this thread is a GEM

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2103557

That thread is an all-timer.

I don't get the Barnes Love when we have OG whos similar but better version of Barnes....If Lowry was in his Prime i would say the same about Suggs but Lowry will be gone so Suggs is going to fit right in to be our PG for the next Decade here or if we Get Mobley we develop him to become one of the best big men in the league....

Its a Win/Win but with a Barnes/Kuminga your basically drafting a player who has the Same DNA as a Siakam/OG but are way way less talented....Barnes Can't Shoot a lick and has no offensive moves what so ever, Kuminga is very much a chucker....

[HumbleRen]

He is everyone's type of player. Just a great basketball player.

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

Every player that makes the NBA looks like MJ/LBJ in Highschool though.

[Madhouse]

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

Every player that makes the NBA looks like MJ/LBJ in Highschool though.

I believe Scottie only averaged 12 and 15 PPG in HS. And then 10 in college. He had undiscovered scoring talent somewhat.

[HumbleRen]

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

Every player that makes the NBA looks like MJ/LBJ in Highschool though.

I believe Scottie only averaged 12 and 15 PPG in HS. And then 10 in college. He had undiscovered scoring talent somewhat.

Team was stacked so those stats are kinda inflated imo. They won games by like 40 points lol. If he was on a normal HS team, he would probably put up 30 + a game but even then, I don't think anyone expected him to be this good this fast.

[mdenny]

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

yeah, I'm pretty baffled. This isn't nearly as big of a surprise as people think.

He was a top 5 recruit and top 5 pick. He was expected to be very, very good. This also was not some genius pick. We picked the best player on the board, an absolute elite athlete with insane skills for his size.

I wonder how often that happens - picking the best player on the board. It's got to be a lot less common the one would assume. Think of the jokic year. Not a single team picked the best player on the board for the first 40ish picks.

I bet it occurs less than 5% of the time. Looks like we did it tho. Will have to wait and see.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Man this thread is a GEM

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2103557

That thread is an all-timer.

I don't get the Barnes Love when we have OG whos similar but better version of Barnes....If Lowry was in his Prime i would say the same about Suggs but Lowry will be gone so Suggs is going to fit right in to be our PG for the next Decade here or if we Get Mobley we develop him to become one of the best big men in the league....

Its a Win/Win but with a Barnes/Kuminga your basically drafting a player who has the Same DNA as a Siakam/OG but are way way less talented....Barnes Can't Shoot a lick and has no offensive moves what so ever, Kuminga is very much a chucker....

so much gold in there...



looks like he was getting the same hate on Youtube as he was getting on Realgm Raptors draft threads.

[PhilBlackson]

Just pause and think...we got a ROOKIE that just put up 25/10/8 on Jokic AND then 31/17/6 on LeBron.

I would expect other MVP candidates to post numbers like that, he's just starting his journey. It's truly unbelievable how lucky we got and how much it shows tanking does work

[Madhouse]

That thread is an all-timer.

I don't get the Barnes Love when we have OG whos similar but better version of Barnes....If Lowry was in his Prime i would say the same about Suggs but Lowry will be gone so Suggs is going to fit right in to be our PG for the next Decade here or if we Get Mobley we develop him to become one of the best big men in the league....

Its a Win/Win but with a Barnes/Kuminga your basically drafting a player who has the Same DNA as a Siakam/OG but are way way less talented....Barnes Can't Shoot a lick and has no offensive moves what so ever, Kuminga is very much a chucker....

so much gold in there...



looks like he was getting the same hate on Youtube as he was getting on Realgm Raptors draft threads.

lol, do you have a link?

[TrustFundBaby]

For sure but he wasn’t doing any of this in college. All of his skills are masai esque. Long, iq, defense, playmaking

He spent his one year in college learning to play point. But if you watch him in high school...he was doing a lot more than he showed in college.

yeah, I'm pretty baffled. This isn't nearly as big of a surprise as people think.

He was a top 5 recruit and top 5 pick. He was expected to be very, very good. This also was not some genius pick. We picked the best player on the board, an absolute elite athlete with insane skills for his size.

It looks like that now that he's killing it. But when the reports were coming out, like Scottie was killing the combine and was the biggest riser, 90% of the fanbase was panicking and praying it was all smoke and MU wouldn't fall for it and let Suggs drop past TOR at 4.

I was never high on Suggs at all, I wanted Kuminga for the longest time, so I never hated the pick since I was glad it wasn't Suggs, but the narrative here was absolutely that wed drafted Draymond/Ben Simmons offensive hybrid without their defense.

You can check the predict Barnes stats thread, loads of people were expecting 6ppg out of him.

I agree in hindsight everything about him was severely underrated, except his passing. That might be the only thing scouts/online posters got right

[Vampirate]

Just pause and think...we got a ROOKIE that just put up 25/10/8 on Jokic AND then 31/17/6 on LeBron.

I would expect other MVP candidates to post numbers like that, he's just starting his journey. It's truly unbelievable how lucky we got and how much it shows tanking does work

You wanted Jalen Green so badly pre draft. And in many respects you were dead on on what can can become, no one can stay in front of him.

Potential wise knowing how dynamic green of an offensive player he can become, if Houston offered Green for Barnes straight up, would you swap?