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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1861 » by Big J » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:54 pm

Madhouse wrote:Jabari is the next Rashard Lewis.

Chet is the only one in this class with truly special potential. But with him is also major risk involved but I would still pick him at 1.


Chet's bust potential is way higher. Jabari is pretty much a guaranteed 5x All Star.
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Post#1862 » by Madhouse » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:55 pm

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Madhouse wrote:Jabari is the next Rashard Lewis.

Chet is the only one in this class with truly special potential. But with him is also major risk involved but I would still pick him at 1.


Chet's bust potential is way higher. Jabari is pretty much a guaranteed 5x All Star.


It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.
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Post#1863 » by babyjax13 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:01 pm

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1864 » by mattao313 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:03 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Big J wrote:
Madhouse wrote:Jabari is the next Rashard Lewis.

Chet is the only one in this class with truly special potential. But with him is also major risk involved but I would still pick him at 1.


Chet's bust potential is way higher. Jabari is pretty much a guaranteed 5x All Star.


It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.
In a draft like this I agree

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1865 » by Big J » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:16 pm

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Madhouse wrote:
Big J wrote:
Chet's bust potential is way higher. Jabari is pretty much a guaranteed 5x All Star.


It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.
In a draft like this I agree

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I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.
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Post#1866 » by clyde21 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:27 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Kendall Brown living up to being the most frustrating guy in this class.

Just zero impact at all in this game. Can't blame Drew for not playing him much in the 2nd half.


yea, very, should be destroying people out there, but very little connective tissue between some of his peripheral skill and absurd athleticism. don't really know what to do with him at this point.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1867 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:35 pm

Big J wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.
In a draft like this I agree

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I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.


Mm. Nah.... He's very far from Durant at the same age in terms of tools and actual play.
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Post#1868 » by Nuntius » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:52 pm

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SeattleJazzFan wrote:What’s the highest any of you would take Duren? I’m thinking he could get to as high as 5. Looks like he’s figuring it out and has an extremely high floor in the league.


Top 10. Definitely a lotto pick, imo. I just wouldn't want to be the one drafting him.

SeattleJazzFan wrote:Put him with an elite playmaker and give him 30 minutes, he’s a 12 and 10 guy from day one.


He is 100% capable of being a double-double machine from the get go but how useful is that nowadays? He is going to be a good starter and a very solid contributor, yes, but will he be a star or a max contract player? His player type works against him, imo.

Even someone like Bam who brings more to the table than that isn't quite a bonafide star. Not yet, at least. The only real star of that type is Gobert and that's because he is a historically dominant defender. Duren definitely has elite defensive tools and great potential on that end but he doesn't quite project to be Gobert level. He doesn't have that insane length that Gobert does. No one does. It's just Gobert and Wembanyama, the projected #1 pick in next year's draft.

That's why I wouldn't want to be the one drafting him. He will 100% be great at what he does, imo, but that's not enough to make him a star which means that I'd rather roll the dice on someone who could be a star instead.


In terms of rim-running bigs...
I guess Jarrett Allen can classify as a star. He was an all-star this year, and should've been voted in the first time without filling in someone's spot. Clint Capela last year was like a weak DPOY candidate guy maybe, so if you think Duren had more offensive ability with stuff like passing, he could also be in the star category.


Jarrett Allen was an All-Star but he was not a star. He was not a top 25 guy and he probably won't be a top 25 guy because he doesn't have the shot-creation ability that most top 25 guys do.

That's what I see for Duren as well. But I could be wrong.
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Post#1869 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:56 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Big J wrote:
Madhouse wrote:Jabari is the next Rashard Lewis.

Chet is the only one in this class with truly special potential. But with him is also major risk involved but I would still pick him at 1.


Chet's bust potential is way higher. Jabari is pretty much a guaranteed 5x All Star.


It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.


Chet can pass the basketball excellently. I think that he has shown more in college than Jabari, especially being required to be a rim protector, and allowed to handle the ball in transition. Jabari is simply featured in their offense as a shooter, ala Glen Rice.
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Post#1870 » by Nuntius » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:00 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Kendall Brown living up to being the most frustrating guy in this class.

Just zero impact at all in this game. Can't blame Drew for not playing him much in the 2nd half.


yea, very, should be destroying people out there, but very little connective tissue between some of his peripheral skill and absurd athleticism. don't really know what to do with him at this point.


I would be fine if my Pacers drafted him with the Cavs pick (it's gonna be around 20 if we end up keeping it). His athleticism does give him a high ceiling but he is still a ways to go.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1871 » by mattao313 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:06 pm

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mattao313 wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.
In a draft like this I agree

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I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.
Chet has the chance to be a complete player with little weaknesses and elite defensive potential. Jabari is looking like a elite shooter with some scoring potential. Imo chet will affect that game much more

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1872 » by Madhouse » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:07 pm

Big J wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.
In a draft like this I agree

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I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.


Durant? wow, just no.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1873 » by clyde21 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:19 pm

Big J wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
It's true but if I'm picking 1 I'm going all in.
In a draft like this I agree

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I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.


well that's just a very odd thing to say.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1874 » by Big J » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:20 pm

mattao313 wrote:
Big J wrote:
mattao313 wrote:In a draft like this I agree

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I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.
Chet has the chance to be a complete player with little weaknesses and elite defensive potential. Jabari is looking like a elite shooter with some scoring potential. Imo chet will affect that game much more

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Chet’s weakness is much worse than Jabari’s though. Chet will never be able to switch and guard positions 1-5. He’ll be locked in as strictly a Brook Lopez drop style defender.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1875 » by LukaTheGOAT » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:45 pm

I watch these college basketball games, telling myself I hope a majority of these dudes are still finding time to study, because they sure are going to need it.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1876 » by Big J » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:47 pm

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mattao313 wrote:In a draft like this I agree

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I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.


well that's just a very odd thing to say.


You do understand what a ceiling is, correct?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1877 » by clyde21 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:01 pm

Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Big J wrote:
I don't think Chet's ceiling is necessarily higher. He's never shown that he can put up big scoring numbers. Jabari's ceiling could be Durant.


well that's just a very odd thing to say.


You do understand what a ceiling is, correct?


the guy who basis his entire scouting report on instagram pictures if here to lecture us about ceilings and prospects

comedy of the highest order
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1878 » by Nuntius » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:28 pm

Is Arthur Kaluma thought of as more of a 2023 guy like John Butler? I'm asking because he's definitely raising his stock right now.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1879 » by Big J » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:29 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
well that's just a very odd thing to say.


You do understand what a ceiling is, correct?


the guy who basis his entire scouting report on instagram pictures if here to lecture us about ceilings and prospects

comedy of the highest order


Front offices look at guys social media accounts before drafting them. This isn't new. I've submitted reports to numerous teams on prospects social media tendencies.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1880 » by clyde21 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:29 pm

Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Big J wrote:
You do understand what a ceiling is, correct?


the guy who basis his entire scouting report on instagram pictures if here to lecture us about ceilings and prospects

comedy of the highest order


Front offices look at guys social media accounts before drafting them. This isn't new. I've submitted reports to numerous teams on prospects social media tendencies.


hopefully they ignore you after the Cade debacle. :lol:
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