James Wiseman 2021/2022

[Old_Blue]

This is Oden level bad.

Considering that Greg Oden played 61 games in his first two seasons and James Wiseman will end up playing only 39 games in the same span, you're smearing Oden's reputation by comparing him to Wiseman.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Best of luck to him recovering fully, but dang do I wish the front office had found a deal before the deadline.

should have been traded last year when it was **** obv to anyone with a brain how much of a bad fit he was in this offense (let alone even before the draft).

what a failure.

Still not obvious to me that he will be a bad fit once he knows what he is doing.
The guy needs experience. I am not declaring a rookie to be Oubre dumb when he is still rookie dumb.
Unlike Oubre dumb, rookie dumb is a treatable condition.

[watch1958]

Silver lining. I don’t need to watch Santa Cruz tonight.

[FNQ]

I guess it’s better, but he’s gonna be done with his rookie contract by the time it heals. Ron Artest was back in 3 weeks after they removed his.

Tears are not uniform. The depth, the angle, the specific location, if it’s clean/jagged.. all these things matter. And that’s only relative to the meniscus and has nothing to do with surrounding areas that are also hurt

Well, whatever it is the docs blew it. This really stings after the Durant achilles ****.

What did they do wrong, in both scenarios?

[Frozzy]

This sucks for the kid. I just hope he can at least be healthy and be a positive player within Stephen Curry's timeframe. I'm more upset at the FO than anything putting so much unrealistic expectations and banking on his return. If he busts then so be it, still gotta have other options at the 5.

At least the youth experiment isn't all bad with Kuminga, Moody, and Poole.

[Big J]

Tears are not uniform. The depth, the angle, the specific location, if it’s clean/jagged.. all these things matter. And that’s only relative to the meniscus and has nothing to do with surrounding areas that are also hurt

Well, whatever it is the docs blew it. This really stings after the Durant achilles ****.

What did they do wrong, in both scenarios?

Durant - allowed him to come back and play on a compromised achilles.

Wise - what other player has had this many setbacks on a meniscus injury?

[SpreeChokeJob]

The good news is Myers said during his state of the union address they consider adding someone if injury changes the circumstances.

Myers you are my ambassador of Quan. You complete my team.

Edit: Por favor

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[watch1958]

Jordan Bell!

[EvanZ]

Wiseman gained too much weight in his upper body. Probably put unnecessary stress on the knee.


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[FNQ]

Well, whatever it is the docs blew it. This really stings after the Durant achilles ****.

What did they do wrong, in both scenarios?

Durant - allowed him to come back and play on a compromised achilles.

Wise - what other player has had this many setbacks on a meniscus injury?

Durant was allowed to play on it and knew the risks. In most cases that wouldn't happen at that stage. Any pro sports medical team would have given the go ahead.

You have no idea what's to blame for Wiseman's setback. There are countless variables that could have happened.

That GB **** wont play here man

[thunderdunk]

I was really hoping that JW would at least be a contributor in the playoffs in 2022. This sucks. Never heard of this type of injury sidelining ANYONE for more than a year... Seems like a nice enough kid. Hopefully he heals fully and doesn't spend his entire NBA career in street clothes.

[FNQ]

Wiseman gained too much weight in his upper body. Probably put unnecessary stress on the knee.


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One possibility. I dont think its terribly likely because this issue would have presented itself in 5 v 5 scrimmages too, though it could be paired with the below:

If I had to bet, especially because Wiseman is young, I'd bet on overexertion. Younger players, especially naturally gifted ones like Wiseman, are unable to truly unlock their 100% in practice, because for them it also relies on adrenaline, and that's something that can only happen in games for them. So they go harder in games than they have in practice, and without realizing it go past their practice limits.

I'd say equally likely to the above is frayed scar tissue causing a general irritation or swelling.

[wco81]

Jonathan Issacs hasn't played in about 2 years either. It was ACL but apparently he has had meniscus issues as well.

[GunnerWRX]

Well they decided they did not need to sign a big guy. Now we have Bjelica and OPJ as bigs for the stretch run and playoffs.

Who did they keep instead of getting a big body? Lee and JTA.

[thunderdunk]

They may have just decided that it's too late to add a big, when everyone else on the roster has had a full year to get into the system. That and they probably don't want to pay huge tax for somebody that may not add a lot to the roster. But a quality big like Nurkic just eats them up. Dubs need Steph, Klay, Poole, Wiggs, and others (Belli, Porter, Moody, Kuminga...) to be shooting threes at their best clip or they have no chance in the playoffs.

[vagelis]

This is not on Wiseman, this situation has to do with Warriors medical staff.
It was a bad decision to repair and not cut off the teared meniscus.
Rose lost one year with the same decision and Wiseman is the same case.

Wiseman is young and a meniscus tear is not a big injury.
When he will have a serious medical treatment he will be ok

Aside from the Rose part, all of this is either untrue or wild speculation

What is untrue and speculation? Can you become more specific?

The speculation is when people name injury prone a 20 yr old player because of a bad surgery

[clyde21]

Well, whatever it is the docs blew it. This really stings after the Durant achilles ****.

What did they do wrong, in both scenarios?

Durant - allowed him to come back and play on a compromised achilles.

Wise - what other player has had this many setbacks on a meniscus injury?

"allowed"? Kevin Durant got the green light to play not only from the W's medical staff but he also got a second opinion from an independent doctor that also told him he's good to go. and it's not like it was some regular season game. it was the finals. what are u talking about?

[Big J]

You guys are acting like this is breaking news. Hell, Iggy even bashed the medical staff on his way out.

[shazam_guy]

Maybe so. Kawhi trashed the Spurs when he went to Toronto, in large part over injury and rehab issues, iirc. It's not an uncommon situation with injured players. I'd be more interested to know whether actual insiders and knowledgeable medical professionals think athere's much difference between various teams' medical approaches. Opinions are useless, no matter how well argued, in the absence of actual information from trustworthy sources.

Mainly I'm just sorry for Wiseman. Whatever's going on and whoever's fault, if any, it's been a miserable first two years for him.

[Big J]

C'mon they played Durant's injury off like it was a calf strain. Hell, even Reggie Miller knew it was an achilles injury when it happened against the Clippers because he said it right away.