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We all know he’s going to sign a fat contract with Washington anyways. They’re just bored.
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Beal using the Heat as leverage again.
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IceColdCubano wrote:twix2500 wrote:Oladipo lower back spasms is a reason for concern this season. Hopefully it's not as bad as it can be, just muscle soreness. His body is going through the changes of getting in bball shape. But it has to be treated right and not make this a long term problem.
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I mean, if I was the organization and he is getting knee soreness I would sell it as back spasms too. Come next year he could be a viable sign and trade player. I am sure we don't want the media/fans giving up on Oladipo so back spasms from getting in bb shape is a good little white lie. Or I could be reading too much into it and its actually back spasms...we shall see how the cookie crumbles.
I'm not sure that Oladipo was ever in this organization's plans for this year. Talking about Oladipo coming back then only giving him 15 minutes a night and calling it a "celebration" while saying he doesn't need to ramp up doesn't really sound like he's in Miami's plans at all this season to me. Not to mention the less he plays the less data other teams have to offer him a bigger contract that Miami would have to get close to matching to keep him.
Maybe they're playing it super safe with Oladipo since he could be a very important piece for the rest of Butler's contract in Miami. Who knows what's happening this summer if Miami doesn't win the Championship. If Miami doesn't win the championship and Herro doesn't look like a #1 option in the playoffs, Miami may go looking for a TRUE #1 option this summer and let Butler worry about other parts of his game.
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rate_ wrote:Beal using the Heat as leverage again.
What leverage? I think Washington already knows it's either the supermax to keep him in Washington or trade him which I think this season showed that with more talent around him he's just a very good scorer, nothing worth anything near the supermax.
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Damn now we doing conspiracies, lawd please don't start that trending on here.IceColdCubano wrote:twix2500 wrote:Oladipo lower back spasms is a reason for concern this season. Hopefully it's not as bad as it can be, just muscle soreness. His body is going through the changes of getting in bball shape. But it has to be treated right and not make this a long term problem.
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I mean, if I was the organization and he is getting knee soreness I would sell it as back spasms too. Come next year he could be a viable sign and trade player. I am sure we don't want the media/fans giving up on Oladipo so back spasms from getting in bb shape is a good little white lie. Or I could be reading too much into it and its actually back spasms...we shall see how the cookie crumbles.
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Beal will sign a supermax and then request a trade the following year. It's all part of the process.
Don't want him if it means getting rid of Herro.
Don't want him if it means getting rid of Herro.
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AirP. wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:twix2500 wrote:Oladipo lower back spasms is a reason for concern this season. Hopefully it's not as bad as it can be, just muscle soreness. His body is going through the changes of getting in bball shape. But it has to be treated right and not make this a long term problem.
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I mean, if I was the organization and he is getting knee soreness I would sell it as back spasms too. Come next year he could be a viable sign and trade player. I am sure we don't want the media/fans giving up on Oladipo so back spasms from getting in bb shape is a good little white lie. Or I could be reading too much into it and its actually back spasms...we shall see how the cookie crumbles.
I'm not sure that Oladipo was ever in this organization's plans for this year. Talking about Oladipo coming back then only giving him 15 minutes a night and calling it a "celebration" while saying he doesn't need to ramp up doesn't really sound like he's in Miami's plans at all this season to me. Not to mention the less he plays the less data other teams have to offer him a bigger contract that Miami would have to get close to matching to keep him.
Maybe they're playing it super safe with Oladipo since he could be a very important piece for the rest of Butler's contract in Miami. Who knows what's happening this summer if Miami doesn't win the Championship. If Miami doesn't win the championship and Herro doesn't look like a #1 option in the playoffs, Miami may go looking for a TRUE #1 option this summer and let Butler worry about other parts of his game.
I think the fanbase and the local media are coming around to this.
The beginning of this year all we have heard from the press was if Oladipo comes back productive were going to be dangerous come playoff time. The truth has been that even without him we are already in a very good place, he would be icing to the cake. We don't really need Oladipo to win an NBA championship, but the long game plan could be just that you mentioned keep him well rested, injury free and work him in completely next year, as if almost a free agent signing that got added in the offseason.
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twix2500 wrote:Damn now we doing conspiracies, lawd please don't start that trending on here.IceColdCubano wrote:twix2500 wrote:Oladipo lower back spasms is a reason for concern this season. Hopefully it's not as bad as it can be, just muscle soreness. His body is going through the changes of getting in bball shape. But it has to be treated right and not make this a long term problem.
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I mean, if I was the organization and he is getting knee soreness I would sell it as back spasms too. Come next year he could be a viable sign and trade player. I am sure we don't want the media/fans giving up on Oladipo so back spasms from getting in bb shape is a good little white lie. Or I could be reading too much into it and its actually back spasms...we shall see how the cookie crumbles.
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No this isn't tin foil hat words, just tactical mentality from a front office perspective. Just putting myself in their place and what I would do if I was GM.
What benefit would I gain from telling the media that he is getting some swelling/inflammation or soreness in the general area were he has had multiple surgeries at. It doesn't gain the fans comfort in Oladipo moving forward in the future nor does it give me a higher trade value if I was to get him more money for a sign a trade. The player and his agent probably prefers this as well and would buy into his player just being out of game shape and not still trying to overcome more injury concerns. Regardless this could just be some residual healing byproducts of adding the court time body stress from a real game minutes.
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twozeroMM wrote:TroubleS0me wrote:gotta finish with the #1 seed in the East for Spo
got a good chance for coach of the year
the NBA cant give it to Monty Williams again..
I have a feeling Spo is going to be out voted again. The NBA is going to give Monty the award for not winning it last year(Thibs won).
damn i forgot Thibs won it last year. Knicks have been so bad i forgot.
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TroubleS0me wrote:twozeroMM wrote:TroubleS0me wrote:gotta finish with the #1 seed in the East for Spo
got a good chance for coach of the year
the NBA cant give it to Monty Williams again..
I have a feeling Spo is going to be out voted again. The NBA is going to give Monty the award for not winning it last year(Thibs won).
damn i forgot Thibs won it last year. Knicks have been so bad i forgot.
Awards have gotten more bias as more media access to all teams. Seems backwards because it is. A lot of these awards the voters do not seem one bit embarrass about it.
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Awards and All NBA teams are too biased. They mean too much to many. Contracts and legacies.
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twix2500 wrote:Damn now we doing conspiracies, lawd please don't start that trending on here.IceColdCubano wrote:twix2500 wrote:Oladipo lower back spasms is a reason for concern this season. Hopefully it's not as bad as it can be, just muscle soreness. His body is going through the changes of getting in bball shape. But it has to be treated right and not make this a long term problem.
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I mean, if I was the organization and he is getting knee soreness I would sell it as back spasms too. Come next year he could be a viable sign and trade player. I am sure we don't want the media/fans giving up on Oladipo so back spasms from getting in bb shape is a good little white lie. Or I could be reading too much into it and its actually back spasms...we shall see how the cookie crumbles.
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Right! We went from anticipating & excited about Dipo's come back, to celebrating Dipo's long awaited return to hearing he has back spasms & suddenly he was never part of the plan this yr & he'll be traded
lol dude just got back after a long stint out injured, surgery & recovery. The body still needs to be properly acclimated to the rigours of NBA games. Patience is key here as we ease him into eventually playing heavier minutes - this may not even be until nxt season. Why push him when we're deep as sh*t anyway.
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Crazy how Achiuwa is pretty much exactly what we’d want at the 4 next to Bam now. Still don’t understand why we tried to limit him to just a roll man when it’s clear the kid can shoot it a bit.
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Wiltside wrote:Crazy how Achiuwa is pretty much exactly what we’d want at the 4 next to Bam now. Still don’t understand why we tried to limit him to just a roll man when it’s clear the kid can shoot it a bit.
He was working on his shot before being drafted and while with Miami last year, he's just getting consistent with it now. He wasn't shooting good enough last year.
All Miami wants out of the 4 is to shoot open 3s and switchable defense, it's their cheap starting position. I expect they'll just keep recycling players at the 4 for the next 3-5 years if not longer.
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If u don't want 2b here, the way things work, u don't like it, then don't b here. U have 2 stand on something. If Miami ain't standing on something, they become alot of these organizations trying 2 find their identity. This is the culture, bro -Wade
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It's fine to be loyal but it also says a lot about a player who continues to chase the money in the same organization that has done nothing to maximise your chances for a championship. It's no longer about contending or being tough competitor - it's more about greed. Again, he can rot in Washington.
If u don't want 2b here, the way things work, u don't like it, then don't b here. U have 2 stand on something. If Miami ain't standing on something, they become alot of these organizations trying 2 find their identity. This is the culture, bro -Wade
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HEAT shouldn't be interested anyway. Herro's already comparable & younger, cheaper, and still ascending.
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Not buying the V.O conspiracy theories lol.
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Just for fun...
Oladipo vs Beal career comparison
I think getting Dipo back in great shape will be as impactful on the floor as Beal could be here. Though Beal is a talented scorer, he is a sieve on defense. We all know what Dipo can do on that end.
Oladipo vs Beal career comparison
I think getting Dipo back in great shape will be as impactful on the floor as Beal could be here. Though Beal is a talented scorer, he is a sieve on defense. We all know what Dipo can do on that end.






