2022 NBA Draft

[MotownMadness]

i'd take Terry lotto. if you look at him as strictly a PG instead a glue guy, it makes much more sense.

I assume you're getting winslow vibes? I love them both actually but Terry has more of an edge (No offense Duke)

Great game. One of the ages

Where do you got Mathurin on your board?

[Duke4life831]

Keels is not a very smart bball player

I do not know what people see in him.

My least favorite OAD ever at Duke. I can't stand when he's on the court.

His IQ and shot choices are hilariously bad. He stops the ball movement whenever he comes on the court. He really seems to still be living off that opening night hype.

For some reason he still gets talked about as an elite defender and a good offensive player.

I actually give K a ton of props for putting Roach into the starting lineup.

[tmorgan]

Yeah, I know people can see Jabari’s potential elite skills, but he’s just so limited. I don’t expect 6’9”+ prospects to handle like Magic or Giddey or whatever, but dude is clearly limited in what he can do.

He’ll be a good player. But #1?

This whole draft is kinda shaky, really. Do you take the 3&D big forward, the toothpick with skills and heart, the guy who looks the part but doesn’t defend, or the hyper athlete with the fugly shot?

Sharpe really should come out. In this draft of yes but no’s, he looks good in workouts and he could go #1. Seriously.

[Coeur]

Yeah, I know people can see Jabari’s potential elite skills, but he’s just so limited. I don’t expect 6’9”+ prospects to handle like Magic or Giddey or whatever, but dude is clearly limited in what he can do.

He’ll be a good player. But #1?

This whole draft is kinda shaky, really. Do you take the 3&D big forward, the toothpick with skills and heart, the guy who looks the part but doesn’t defend, or the hyper athlete with the fugly shot?

Sharpe really should come out. In this draft of yes but no’s, he looks good in workouts and he could go #1. Seriously.

This whole time he’s seemed like a 4-5 pick. And I think I like him a lot.

Someone is taking Ivey 1 or 2.

Paolo is a monster that you have to take over Jabari. Picturing them against each other seems like there’s a pretty clear advantage to start out at.

Teams will see a lot more different things in Chet than they will in Jabari and I think it’s almost automatic that Chet goes over Jabari.

[tmorgan]

Yeah, I know people can see Jabari’s potential elite skills, but he’s just so limited. I don’t expect 6’9”+ prospects to handle like Magic or Giddey or whatever, but dude is clearly limited in what he can do.

He’ll be a good player. But #1?

This whole draft is kinda shaky, really. Do you take the 3&D big forward, the toothpick with skills and heart, the guy who looks the part but doesn’t defend, or the hyper athlete with the fugly shot?

Sharpe really should come out. In this draft of yes but no’s, he looks good in workouts and he could go #1. Seriously.

This whole time he’s seemed like a 4-5 pick. And I think I like him a lot.

Someone is taking Ivey 1 or 2.

Paolo is a monster that you have to take over Jabari. Picturing them against each other seems like there’s a pretty clear advantage to start out at.

Teams will see a lot more different things in Chet than they will in Jabari and I think it’s almost automatic that Chet goes over Jabari.

My vision is obviously clouded by seeing things from “on the Pistons, with Cade” perspective. And we could pick anywhere from 1st to about 8th. Ivey would be fun, but I prefer a trustworthy shooter. Chet is such a bizarre player I have no idea. Jabari would fit great, assuming we move Grant along. Paolo is Cade’s stated preference, but I see some redundancy there in terms of needing the ball.

So…. I guess I’m hoping you’re right if the Pistons pick 4th or 5th. We need shooting and defense. Well, and a bunch of other stuff, like a rim protector, secondary playmaker, etc.

[jman3134]

The fact that ESPN lists Christian Koloko as a 2nd round pick and Mark Williams as a late 1st shows that they can be completely disregarded until they get the inside information from teams about their draft boards. Trevor Keels is ahead of both at #25.

Mathurin at 12?

[LukaTheGOAT]

Jaden Ivey with 3 or 4 wow plays along with two dagger 3’s at the end of the game. No damage to his draft tonight.

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[zimpy27]

Yeah, I know people can see Jabari’s potential elite skills, but he’s just so limited. I don’t expect 6’9”+ prospects to handle like Magic or Giddey or whatever, but dude is clearly limited in what he can do.

He’ll be a good player. But #1?

This whole draft is kinda shaky, really. Do you take the 3&D big forward, the toothpick with skills and heart, the guy who looks the part but doesn’t defend, or the hyper athlete with the fugly shot?

Sharpe really should come out. In this draft of yes but no’s, he looks good in workouts and he could go #1. Seriously.

This whole time he’s seemed like a 4-5 pick. And I think I like him a lot.

Someone is taking Ivey 1 or 2.

Paolo is a monster that you have to take over Jabari. Picturing them against each other seems like there’s a pretty clear advantage to start out at.

Teams will see a lot more different things in Chet than they will in Jabari and I think it’s almost automatic that Chet goes over Jabari.

Ivey has the G league floor. Could be a serious bust at #1 or #2.. I'd be more inclined to take a chance on Sharpe based on what I I've seen from Ivey

[MemphisX]

Yeah, I know people can see Jabari’s potential elite skills, but he’s just so limited. I don’t expect 6’9”+ prospects to handle like Magic or Giddey or whatever, but dude is clearly limited in what he can do.

He’ll be a good player. But #1?

This whole draft is kinda shaky, really. Do you take the 3&D big forward, the toothpick with skills and heart, the guy who looks the part but doesn’t defend, or the hyper athlete with the fugly shot?

Sharpe really should come out. In this draft of yes but no’s, he looks good in workouts and he could go #1. Seriously.

This whole time he’s seemed like a 4-5 pick. And I think I like him a lot.

Someone is taking Ivey 1 or 2.

Paolo is a monster that you have to take over Jabari. Picturing them against each other seems like there’s a pretty clear advantage to start out at.

Teams will see a lot more different things in Chet than they will in Jabari and I think it’s almost automatic that Chet goes over Jabari.

Ivey has the G league floor. Could be a serious bust at #1 or #2.. I'd be more inclined to take a chance on Sharpe based on what I I've seen from Ivey

Everyone loves a mystery box...

[Chuck Everett]

Jaden Ivey with 3 or 4 wow plays along with two dagger 3’s at the end of the game. No damage to his draft tonight.

Ja Morant knows

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He's also incredibly biased because he personally knows Jaden as his mother used to work for the Grizzlies before getting the Notre Dame job.

[jezzerinho]

The fact that ESPN lists Christian Koloko as a 2nd round pick and Mark Williams as a late 1st shows that they can be completely disregarded until they get the inside information from teams about their draft boards. Trevor Keels is ahead of both at #25.

Mathurin at 12?

Koloko has the lowest bust potential of any player in this draft. He is a guaranteed successful NBA player, and a good one. I don't care if he's 22, just means the team will waste less of his rookie deal teaching him how to play. And there's growth potential on the offensive end, which is the tantalising part.

Kamagate could end up being equal or better than Koloko, but I'd have a hard time turning Christian down if I'm looking for rim protection and athletic upside.

[Roger Murdock]

Best fits for top guys?

I love love love the idea of Poalo in Detroit

Chet in Orlando - super dynamic and fills in gaps the other young players don’t fill

Jabari works kinda everywhere but isn’t exciting anywhere as he’s a plug and plug guy rather than a build around

[The-Power]

Everyone loves a mystery box...

Yeah, I don't get it. Ivey has sky-high potential, I think that much is obvious. Now I understand some concerns about how it translates (I personally think he's actually going to be better in the NBA at his primary strength – going to the rim – but his shot may be more of a drawback). But it makes zero sense to take Sharpe over Ivey if your primary concern is about drafting a possible bust.

Ivey has actually dominated in college. We know he's better than most of his peers (and not by being a slow undersized low-post big, the primary archetype where you'd worry about translation of ability). There is not a chance that he has a higher bust potential than someone who has only played against high-school competition. You draft Sharpe for upside, not because he's somehow a safer option.

And I just can't bring myself to draft such a player ahead of the best prospects who we've actually seen play dominant in college. Too many cautionary tales about highly ranked HS players. Most recent case in point: Brandon Boston Jr., who was talked about as a potential #1 pick in the summer before playing horrible in college and falling all the way to the late second round (too low, but imagine your team picked him #1-3 after he sat out the season).

[The-Power]

I love love love the idea of Poalo in Detroit

Why is that? I don't particularly like his fit with Cade.

Chet in Orlando - super dynamic and fills in gaps the other young players don’t fill

Next to WCJ and Wagner in the front court, I assume?

[Roger Murdock]

I love love love the idea of Poalo in Detroit

Why is that? I don't particularly like his fit with Cade.

Chet in Orlando - super dynamic and fills in gaps the other young players don’t fill

Next to WCJ and Wagner in the front court, I assume?

I love his fit with Cade. Forcing everything through one player never leads to anything sustainable in the post season. One of Cades best strengths is moving off ball, shooting off the catch, and creating space for his teammates. But he can’t do that because nobody else on the team deserves the rock or can play make

Paolo can play PnR, PnP as both the screener and ball handler. He has a dynamic game and frees Cade to operate off ball when necessary and allows the team to show multiple fronts

If they draft Jabari that teams going to be the ‘Cade gets the ball every possession and everyone else stands around’

They need a secondary guy who can brute force offense and create for others. Cades a great engine but there’s like ten engines in the NBA who can do what Cade does the same or better but Cade has more potential off ball than most of them and should utilize it.

I absolutely hate the one man show offenses and think it’s the easy way out. Sure it will get you to the playoffs but if caps your ceiling.

[juanc]

What do you guys think about Christian Braun? The more I watch the kid play, the higher I have him.

Someone I've come around on a little. Didnt think much outside of his transition O coming into the year but I think he's someone that will be able to attack advantage situations inside the halfcourt as well. I'd be very surprised if he ever carved anything more than a bench role on an NBA team and I wouldn't take him inside the top 40 but he's a decent athlete and someone who can be connective tissue as well as a play finisher both above the rim and from a C&S perspective.

I think his shooting will play a role in his halfcourt offense. It will open the lane for him and it'll be easier for him to use/attack those advantage situations.
I can see him being a good/great roleplayer on a good team. I like his fit in Dallas, have him behind Williams if he somehow slips to 23

[The-Power]

They need a secondary guy who can brute force offense and create for others. Cades a great engine but there’s like ten engines in the NBA who can do what Cade does the same or better but Cade has more potential off ball than most of them and should utilize it.

I understand this sentiment, but I just don't see Banchero as the player to get them there. I don't see yet that Banchero is going to be a legitimate secondary ball handler who you can run your offense through at times so as to fully utilize Cade and give him the necessary breaks. He doesn't have that kind of perimeter skills and it's quite a large question mark if he will get there (keep in mind that being the secondary ball shot creator on a contending NBA team is not an easy task even if you are talented).

The player I'd draft for what you seem to want for Detroit is Ivey – someone who can create off the dribble for himself and to some extent for others (because he breaks down defenses), provides the required rim pressure off the dribble (Detroit clearly lacks that) and can still play off the ball (as he currently does a lot). I think Ivey's best fits are in Detroit (next to Cade) and Indiana (next to Haliburton) for that reason.

Banchero seems like a better option for a team like OKC or Orlando, who already have shot creation talent they seek to develop but could really use a front-court player who can score and pressures defenses around the rim (provided that Banchero is content with playing to his strengths).

[Big J]

I’m starting to sour on this draft after seeing these unimpressive performances by the top guys. Getting 2000 draft vibes from this class.

[XTC]

Best fits for top guys?

I love love love the idea of Poalo in Detroit

Chet in Orlando - super dynamic and fills in gaps the other young players don’t fill

Jabari works kinda everywhere but isn’t exciting anywhere as he’s a plug and plug guy rather than a build around

I think Chet is the last thing Orlando needs. I honestly do think Jabari's best fit would be Orlando.

IMO Jabari Smith reminds me of ex-Magic Rashard Lewis.

[Marty McFly]

Jabari Smith will be a very good secondary star. he'd fit really well with Cade in Detroit.

as much as I like Holmgren, it's patently obvious his weight is going to be an issue as talented and he is. His ideal fit is next to Zion.

Banchero would look really good next to Green in Houston.

Ivey has the highest upside in the entire draft; he has superstar athleticism and any team in a draft regardless of personnel would be lucky to draft him. If Purdue takes the NCAA title, I think he'll go #1.