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Post#321 » by ajones9219 » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:04 pm

There are currently 2 players on the Yankees that are not vaccinated per a report on NJ.com. I assume both those guys are gonna cave and get the shot if money is at stake. I think it is interesting that reporting is showing that MLB is going the "outdoor vs indoor" route when talking to city hall. I think that is the easier play honestly since outdoor venues have always been treated differently up to this point.
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Post#322 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:07 pm

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Paradise wrote:Which is why he’s a douchebag. He can’t even get a hold of crime but feels he can posture on technicality rules.


That's why he's putting the same police unit who choked a man to death over selling loose cigarettes back on the street I guess.

Adams gives me Giuliani vibes. It won't shock me if he's embroiled in some corruption scandal during the course of his term and police violence complaints skyrocket under his watch.

I mean Adams was a Republican at one point. Saying he's a Democrat now doesn't really mean all that much. It's just a label. It's what you call yourself if you want to have a realistic shot at being mayor in NYC most of the time.

Also he already had the thing with trying to name his half brother to some post in his administration. Adams sucks, it's just people don't ever really pay attention to politics. I'm sure most people that voted for him saw a cop, who calls himself a Democrat, as the solution to rising crime in the city.


Yes, because electing a cop will solve rising crime, and not someone who understands the underlying causes that lead to rises to criminal activity such as poverty and economic inequality and hardship.

Some good old ass beatings handed out to young guys in the streets by cops in Brownsville and a few unarmed killings of Black men here and there and NYC will be back on track, I'm sure.
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Re: NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion 

Post#323 » by gigantes » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:56 pm

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KD35Netted wrote:You are reading it all wrong. Adams is telling us to shut up and stop trying to push him into lifting it otherwise he will purposely delay it; he is telling you he will lift it on his terms.

Which is why he’s a douchebag. He can’t even get a hold of crime but feels he can posture on technicality rules.
That's why he's putting the same police unit who choked a man to death over selling loose cigarettes back on the street I guess.

Adams gives me Giuliani vibes. It won't shock me if he's embroiled in some corruption scandal during the course of his term and police violence complaints skyrocket under his watch.

Earlier in the election process I remember some long-time NYC & political wonks discussing exactly how corrupt Adams was. IIRC there was a pretty big scandal relating to his brother, I think?

In any case, the Giuliani comparison kinda chills me, even if he does or doesn't currently cavort himself like a insane, evil clown the way Rudy does.


Getting back to Kyrie-- at the end of the day, this is a guy who averages 32 games a season for the Nets, all the while taking up a load of our cap.

Yes, I think it makes sense to extend him under the right circumstances, but also to potentially trade his narcissistic arse for any combo of assets that actually helps the team's bottom line of winning games and going deep in to the playoffs.

This summer will be the single best opportunity Marks has during the KD years to deal with Kyrie appropriately. I hope he doesn't blow it, because I suspect it's probably going to define this era.
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Re: NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion 

Post#324 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:40 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:Which is why he’s a douchebag. He can’t even get a hold of crime but feels he can posture on technicality rules.
That's why he's putting the same police unit who choked a man to death over selling loose cigarettes back on the street I guess.

Adams gives me Giuliani vibes. It won't shock me if he's embroiled in some corruption scandal during the course of his term and police violence complaints skyrocket under his watch.

Earlier in the election process I remember some long-time NYC & political wonks discussing exactly how corrupt Adams was. IIRC there was a pretty big scandal relating to his brother, I think?

In any case, the Giuliani comparison kinda chills me, even if he does or doesn't currently cavort himself like a insane, evil clown the way Rudy does.


Getting back to Kyrie-- at the end of the day, this is a guy who averages 32 games a season for the Nets, all the while taking up a load of our cap.

Yes, I think it makes sense to extend him under the right circumstances, but also to potentially trade his narcissistic arse for any combo of assets that actually helps the team's bottom line of winning games and going deep in to the playoffs.

This summer will be the single best opportunity Marks has during the KD years to deal with Kyrie appropriately. I hope he doesn't blow it, because I suspect it's probably going to define this era.

Let's not besmirch Giuliani's stint as NYC mayor. He was one of the best mayor's in the history of NYC, and positively transformed the city in an enormous way.

Current Rudy, the Trump puppet has become an unhinged clown show.
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Post#325 » by gigantes » Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:21 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:Let's not besmirch Giuliani's stint as NYC mayor. He was one of the best mayor's in the history of NYC, and positively transformed the city in an enormous way.

Current Rudy, the Trump puppet has become an unhinged clown show.

You know, back in Philly at the time (this is like ~20yrs ago now?), I was part of various community garden projects, and I particularly loved seeing the way it got kids & homeowners so involved, so invested.

Unless I recall wrong, Giuliani was the specific guy who destroyed much of that in NYC, i.e. shutting down community gardens, due to his typical BS right-wing alarmism.

Not to mention, Rudy completely betrayed NYC FF's and first responders to 9/11 by the lack of health support, no?

Myeah... if there's a bigger sack of excrement across US regional politics, I'm not sure who that would be outside of Palin / Giuliani.
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Re: NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion 

Post#326 » by Rich Rane » Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:19 am

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TheNetsFan wrote:Let's not besmirch Giuliani's stint as NYC mayor. He was one of the best mayor's in the history of NYC, and positively transformed the city in an enormous way.

Current Rudy, the Trump puppet has become an unhinged clown show.

You know, back in Philly at the time (this is like ~20yrs ago now?), I was part of various community garden projects, and I particularly loved seeing the way it got kids & homeowners so involved, so invested.

Unless I recall wrong, Giuliani was the specific guy who destroyed much of that in NYC, i.e. shutting down community gardens, due to his typical BS right-wing alarmism.

Not to mention, Rudy completely betrayed NYC FF's and first responders to 9/11 by the lack of health support, no?

Myeah... if there's a bigger sack of excrement across US regional politics, I'm not sure who that would be outside of Palin / Giuliani.


What happened to Giuliani? Nothing really.
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Re: NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion 

Post#327 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:33 pm

ajones9219 wrote:There are currently 2 players on the Yankees that are not vaccinated per a report on NJ.com. I assume both those guys are gonna cave and get the shot if money is at stake. I think it is interesting that reporting is showing that MLB is going the "outdoor vs indoor" route when talking to city hall. I think that is the easier play honestly since outdoor venues have always been treated differently up to this point.


The venue doesnt apply. the venue mandate was lifted. This is a private employer mandate, which only requires it being a workplace, regardless of whether it is open air or not.

Adams bigger issue is picking and choose which billionaires he will give exemptions too vs. holding hardline against them all. either way, he comes out looking awful.
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Re: NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion 

Post#328 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:37 pm

gigantes wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:Which is why he’s a douchebag. He can’t even get a hold of crime but feels he can posture on technicality rules.
That's why he's putting the same police unit who choked a man to death over selling loose cigarettes back on the street I guess.

Adams gives me Giuliani vibes. It won't shock me if he's embroiled in some corruption scandal during the course of his term and police violence complaints skyrocket under his watch.

Earlier in the election process I remember some long-time NYC & political wonks discussing exactly how corrupt Adams was. IIRC there was a pretty big scandal relating to his brother, I think?

In any case, the Giuliani comparison kinda chills me, even if he does or doesn't currently cavort himself like a insane, evil clown the way Rudy does.


Getting back to Kyrie-- at the end of the day, this is a guy who averages 32 games a season for the Nets, all the while taking up a load of our cap.

Yes, I think it makes sense to extend him under the right circumstances, but also to potentially trade his narcissistic arse for any combo of assets that actually helps the team's bottom line of winning games and going deep in to the playoffs.

This summer will be the single best opportunity Marks has during the KD years to deal with Kyrie appropriately. I hope he doesn't blow it, because I suspect it's probably going to define this era.


Kyrie doesnt effect or take up cap. he only effects the tax. The Nets are over the cap with or without Kyrie's money. KD/Simmons/Harris alone put us right near the cap by themselves. Kyrie being off the books doesnt give us like an extra 4 million towards the MLE if get under the tax. thats it.

Moving Kyrie for anything makes the team worse. you remove a guy the team loves, you remove a guy KD wants here and your remove a guy that helps make us a contender. no player/package of player comes close to giving us that ceiling
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Re: NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion 

Post#329 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:53 pm

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gigantes wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Let's not besmirch Giuliani's stint as NYC mayor. He was one of the best mayor's in the history of NYC, and positively transformed the city in an enormous way.

Current Rudy, the Trump puppet has become an unhinged clown show.

You know, back in Philly at the time (this is like ~20yrs ago now?), I was part of various community garden projects, and I particularly loved seeing the way it got kids & homeowners so involved, so invested.

Unless I recall wrong, Giuliani was the specific guy who destroyed much of that in NYC, i.e. shutting down community gardens, due to his typical BS right-wing alarmism.

Not to mention, Rudy completely betrayed NYC FF's and first responders to 9/11 by the lack of health support, no?

Myeah... if there's a bigger sack of excrement across US regional politics, I'm not sure who that would be outside of Palin / Giuliani.


What happened to Giuliani? Nothing really.


^^this video pretty much said what I was going to say. When Rudy was mayor, the NYPD had an open season on Black and Brown New Yorkers. That's exactly what I meant by Adams giving me Rudy vibes. Dude is a snake.
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Post#330 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:55 pm

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Post#331 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:23 pm

Politico is reporting that the rules will be changed tomorrow

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/23/adams-vaccine-mandate-performers-athletes-00019851

This lines up with what Boomer said the other day.

I guess Adams didn't want that smoke with the Yankees. Either way, our chances of catching Toronto and Cleveland have just raised significantly

I hope the top 3 seeds are preparing for their imminent demise.
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Post#332 » by Paradise » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:45 pm

Oh ****! This is the best birthday gift Kyrie could ask for.

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Post#333 » by 3pt_chucker » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:46 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:I've already come to terms to Kyrie not being available for home games until next season.

The mayor will not be doing anyone a favor because it's the easiest stance for him in the world and most NYers(esp the the ones who don't give AF about sports) will be in favor of a mandate. The narrative is already that he shouldn't bend the rules for millionaires(even tho it happens all the time behind the scenes lmaoo) Plus while I love NYC, it tends to peacock around as being this bastion of progressiveness and will do whatever to not look like Florida, etc., even if what they are doing is dumb...

I'll be pleasantly surprised if the mandate gets lifted anytime soon.


This aged like milk :lol:

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Will probably go to the game on Sunday :D
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Re: NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion 

Post#334 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:46 pm

Paradise wrote:Oh ****! This is the best birthday gift Kyrie could ask for.

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Shams reported it as well as politico.

It's over. Finally.

:cry: I'm literally tearing up right now
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Post#335 » by 3pt_chucker » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:47 pm

Steve Cohen has donated over $1M to Adams campaign. Multiple Mets are unvaxxed.

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Post#336 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:51 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Steve Cohen has noted over $1M to Adams campaign. Multiple Mets are unvaxxed.

Follow the money


I imagine that phone call had Adams saying lots of "yes sir. Will do sir. Of course sir".

Joe Tsai needs to learn how to play the game better. I knew that Adams was going to get punked.
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Post#337 » by Paradise » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:55 pm

I love how this only applies to athletes and entertainers. I lost even more respect for him now. Lift it all together. Other states are laughing at us.

**** the city workers, teachers, janitors and people who pay hard earned money to these venues is what Eric Adams Apple is telling us.
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Post#338 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:05 pm

Finally!!!! Lets go ! WoooHoooo
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Post#339 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:17 pm

LOL once the Yankees were at risk it was over. Adams had no shot.
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Post#340 » by sashaturiaf » Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:36 pm

Good. Sanity finally prevailed and I'm glad this mess is behind us.

Now let's just focus on basketball

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