Other Playoff Series

[lilfishi22]

Terrible luck for the guy. Mystery injuries with us and then can never stay healthy with the Pacers. I don't think he's going to be an MLE level guy, just too risky given how little he plays. I think it's more likely going to be a one year deal just to see if he can still play

Never had any qualms getting rid of this guy - maybe we got bad value, but the mystery injuries (and tweets) are too much for me.

Maybe the market was colder than we thought - its not like other teams didn't see what we were seeing.

Story was that Indiana didn't believe what we are doing, and never let JJ hang up, otherwise they knew he would get more from any team that he calls. It was well documented then, no need to try to paint it in a different picture.

And I'm not even against your general view, but in the age of the internet, there is really no place for revisionist history on a well documented matter.

I haven't heard this story before. What where we doing that Indy believe in? Is there a link to the story?

[King4Day]

Read on Twitter

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Played 4 games in 2 seasons. Very curious what his FA market will look like.

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I could see a 1 year prove-it deal for maybe 5-6mil

[King4Day]

Never had any qualms getting rid of this guy - maybe we got bad value, but the mystery injuries (and tweets) are too much for me.

Maybe the market was colder than we thought - its not like other teams didn't see what we were seeing.

Story was that Indiana didn't believe what we are doing, and never let JJ hang up, otherwise they knew he would get more from any team that he calls. It was well documented then, no need to try to paint it in a different picture.

And I'm not even against your general view, but in the age of the internet, there is really no place for revisionist history on a well documented matter.

I haven't heard this story before. What where we doing that Indy believe in? Is there a link to the story?

I think a report came out that Indy was shocked we were offering him for nothing AND giving up assets to do it while other teams were surprised by us trading him and maybe didn't have a chance to make an offer.

The problem, IMO, was we needed cap space in the worst way to sign Rubio. No doubt we could have gotten more than cap space in a deal with other teams but couldn't afford to go another season without a floor general. So, the sacrifice was a bad trade (that clearly worked out for us in the end)

[Saberestar]

Story was that Indiana didn't believe what we are doing, and never let JJ hang up, otherwise they knew he would get more from any team that he calls. It was well documented then, no need to try to paint it in a different picture.

And I'm not even against your general view, but in the age of the internet, there is really no place for revisionist history on a well documented matter.

I haven't heard this story before. What where we doing that Indy believe in? Is there a link to the story?

I think a report came out that Indy was shocked we were offering him for nothing AND giving up assets to do it while other teams were surprised by us trading him and maybe didn't have a chance to make an offer.

The problem, IMO, was we needed cap space in the worst way to sign Rubio. No doubt we could have gotten more than cap space in a deal with other teams but couldn't afford to go another season without a floor general. So, the sacrifice was a bad trade (that clearly worked out for us in the end)

I was the fist one that criticized that trade ATM because I loved TJ Warren and saw ridiculous to attach a 2nd to his contract BUT the truth is that I was wrong and that was a good trade for us.

Two years not playing at all is too much, I think that James Jones and our medical staff knew that his foot will bother him at some point in the next few years and that probably was a factor to trade him early that summer. He already had a huge injury in one of his feet with us some years ago, so it was probably a concern.

It is a shame that he can't stay healthy because Warren to me is a very unique player. One of the best that I have seen playing without the ball. I remember that Triano said in a interview that he allowed him to break sometimes our offensive sets with his unexpected moves because most of the time he was doing the right read.

[bwgood77]

Jalen Smith 17 and 10 in 13 minutes tonight.

[SunsRback4Good]

Jalen Smith 17 and 10 in 13 minutes tonight.

He'll even excel further the next coming season. I'm going out on a limb to proclaim that Smith wins ROTY next season. I see 16.5 ppg/8 reb as a full time starter. The kid is special wish we had kept him, but it wasn't in the cards and we were going to lose him next season for nothing.. meaning Craig and Holiday would still be with their respectable teams.

[RunDogGun]

Simmons with a herniated disk. That has to suck for the Nets.

[Saberestar]

Jalen Smith 17 and 10 in 13 minutes tonight.

Why he plays so few minutes per game? Serious question.

Edit: OK, not so few minutes, he averages close to 25 per game.

[Mr Puddles]

Jalen Smith 17 and 10 in 13 minutes tonight.

He'll even excel further the next coming season. I'm going out on a limb to proclaim that Smith wins ROTY next season. I see 16.5 ppg/8 reb as a full time starter. The kid is special wish we had kept him, but it wasn't in the cards and we were going to lose him next season for nothing.. meaning Craig and Holiday would still be with their respectable teams.

First NBA player to do so since Ben Simmons?

[Bogyo]

Simmons with a herniated disk. That has to suck for the Nets.

Had one of those. Not fun. Dude is out for the season, and if he doesn't do his rehab 110% right then he will be having problems for the rest of his life...and out for 20-30 games each season with back spasms and whatnot...

[RunDogGun]

Simmons with a herniated disk. That has to suck for the Nets.

Had one of those. Not fun. Dude is out for the season, and if he doesn't do his rehab 110% right then he will be having problems for the rest of his life...and out for 20-30 games each season with back spasms and whatnot...

Hope he figures it out. He is a pretty special player and it would be interesting if he can get his shot under control. Tough break for the Nets though.

[lilfishi22]

Simmons with a herniated disk. That has to suck for the Nets.

Had one of those. Not fun. Dude is out for the season, and if he doesn't do his rehab 110% right then he will be having problems for the rest of his life...and out for 20-30 games each season with back spasms and whatnot...

Is it a freak injury or does it have something to do with him taking it easy throughout most of the season and now trying to ramp up activity?

[Revived]

Crazy to me that teams like the Bulls hand out massive contracts to injury prone players then act surprised when the player is injured.

Lonzo Ball had a rich injury history and major durability concerns since entering the league. Of course the Bulls go and commit $85 million to such a player.

[Saberestar]

Simmons with a herniated disk. That has to suck for the Nets.

Had one of those. Not fun. Dude is out for the season, and if he doesn't do his rehab 110% right then he will be having problems for the rest of his life...and out for 20-30 games each season with back spasms and whatnot...

Is it a freak injury or does it have something to do with him taking it easy throughout most of the season and now trying to ramp up activity?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a big deal and his agent and him want to get all the money back from the Sixets. He needs to show that he couldn't play for them, so it can be an strategy ...we will see.

[bwgood77]

I don't see the Nets getting out of the first round, with or without Simmons. If I were them I'd probably prefer the Heat or Sixers to the Bucks or Celtics though. I wouldn't be super shocked if they don't make it at all and the Hawks knock them out of the 8 seed after the Raps knock them out of the 7-8 matchup. Though there is a chance the Hornets pass them up and play the Raptors so the 9/10 would then be Nets/Hawks. Especially if Kyrie still can't play at home.

[lilfishi22]

Had one of those. Not fun. Dude is out for the season, and if he doesn't do his rehab 110% right then he will be having problems for the rest of his life...and out for 20-30 games each season with back spasms and whatnot...

Is it a freak injury or does it have something to do with him taking it easy throughout most of the season and now trying to ramp up activity?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a big deal and his agent and him want to get all the money back from the Sixets. He needs to show that he couldn't play for them, so it can be an strategy ...we will see.

Not a medical expert by any means but I'm not sure if contusions are the type of injury would get worse if you played on it. It's more pain tolerance I believe. I think it's a team decision to take our time with injuries especially during this time of the year.

[Bogyo]

Simmons with a herniated disk. That has to suck for the Nets.

Had one of those. Not fun. Dude is out for the season, and if he doesn't do his rehab 110% right then he will be having problems for the rest of his life...and out for 20-30 games each season with back spasms and whatnot...

Is it a freak injury or does it have something to do with him taking it easy throughout most of the season and now trying to ramp up activity?

It could be either.
The strange thing with this is that like half of the people have some discs a bit out of line, and it's usually a couple of milimeters, and cause no trouble. BUT if the disc moves in a direction that it starts pushing a nerve then you are boinked. Depending on the movement and the nerve ofcourse. I was not able to stand up for like a week for example, as the pain was too much. I doubt things will go this far with Simmons, but it could be a lenghty recovery if he is not lucky, or does not take his rehab very seriously.

[spanishninja]

Crazy to me that teams like the Bulls hand out massive contracts to injury prone players then act surprised when the player is injured.

Lonzo Ball had a rich injury history and major durability concerns since entering the league. Of course the Bulls go and commit $85 million to such a player.

well at least they'll save a **** of money on Lavine now.

[Saberestar]

The Warriors lost against the Magic...

[suns12345]

The Warriors lost against the Magic...

As much as they aren't the same team without Green, they definitely aren't the same team without curry