Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
Moderator: JaysRule15
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,344
- And1: 3,039
- Joined: Nov 02, 2006
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,344
- And1: 3,039
- Joined: Nov 02, 2006
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,344
- And1: 3,039
- Joined: Nov 02, 2006
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,344
- And1: 3,039
- Joined: Nov 02, 2006
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,344
- And1: 3,039
- Joined: Nov 02, 2006
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
Rosenthal: Does Anthony Rizzo have regrets about his contract? What’s the best Wander Franco memory? – The Athletic
• One rival official is not convinced the Jays are much-improved over 2021, reasoning that it will be difficult for Matt Chapman to perform better than Marcus Semien, and for Kevin Gausman and Yusei Kikuchi to perform better than Robbie Ray and Steven Matz.
Fair points, but one significant difference this season is that the Jays will play all their home games, as opposed to Dunedin (10-11 last season), Buffalo (12-11) and Toronto (25-11). Unvaccinated players are currently prohibited from playing in Toronto, per border restrictions that only allow fully vaccinated travelers into Canada. Teams can put those players on the restricted list during the series.
The Jays’ early schedule, though, appears difficult. Sixteen of their 22 games in April are against the Yankees, Red Sox and Astros, and only six of those are at home. Their other six games in the opening month are at home against the Rangers and A’s.
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- Raps in 4
- RealGM
- Posts: 66,634
- And1: 61,550
- Joined: Nov 01, 2008
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
polo007 wrote:Rosenthal: Does Anthony Rizzo have regrets about his contract? What’s the best Wander Franco memory? – The Athletic• One rival official is not convinced the Jays are much-improved over 2021, reasoning that it will be difficult for Matt Chapman to perform better than Marcus Semien, and for Kevin Gausman and Yusei Kikuchi to perform better than Robbie Ray and Steven Matz.
Fair points, but one significant difference this season is that the Jays will play all their home games, as opposed to Dunedin (10-11 last season), Buffalo (12-11) and Toronto (25-11). Unvaccinated players are currently prohibited from playing in Toronto, per border restrictions that only allow fully vaccinated travelers into Canada. Teams can put those players on the restricted list during the series.
The Jays’ early schedule, though, appears difficult. Sixteen of their 22 games in April are against the Yankees, Red Sox and Astros, and only six of those are at home. Their other six games in the opening month are at home against the Rangers and A’s.
The Jays don't need to better than last year to be better than everyone but the Rays in the division. We grossly underperformed last year relative to our production.
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- bluerap23
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,143
- And1: 7,289
- Joined: Aug 15, 2012
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
Raps in 4 wrote:polo007 wrote:Rosenthal: Does Anthony Rizzo have regrets about his contract? What’s the best Wander Franco memory? – The Athletic• One rival official is not convinced the Jays are much-improved over 2021, reasoning that it will be difficult for Matt Chapman to perform better than Marcus Semien, and for Kevin Gausman and Yusei Kikuchi to perform better than Robbie Ray and Steven Matz.
Fair points, but one significant difference this season is that the Jays will play all their home games, as opposed to Dunedin (10-11 last season), Buffalo (12-11) and Toronto (25-11). Unvaccinated players are currently prohibited from playing in Toronto, per border restrictions that only allow fully vaccinated travelers into Canada. Teams can put those players on the restricted list during the series.
The Jays’ early schedule, though, appears difficult. Sixteen of their 22 games in April are against the Yankees, Red Sox and Astros, and only six of those are at home. Their other six games in the opening month are at home against the Rangers and A’s.
The Jays don't need to better than last year to be better than everyone but the Rays in the division. We grossly underperformed last year relative to our production.
A little concerned that a big part of our underperforming is back in the manager's seat.
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- Raps in 4
- RealGM
- Posts: 66,634
- And1: 61,550
- Joined: Nov 01, 2008
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
bluerap23 wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:
The Jays don't need to better than last year to be better than everyone but the Rays in the division. We grossly underperformed last year relative to our production.
A little concerned that a big part of our underperforming is back in the manager's seat.
Totally. We comfortably make the playoffs last year with any other manager. If the team continues to underperform early in the season, Shatkins needs to replace him.
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- TR50
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,558
- And1: 1,225
- Joined: Dec 19, 2004
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- xAIRNESSx
- RealGM
- Posts: 18,907
- And1: 14,241
- Joined: Jan 06, 2005
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,570
- And1: 2,350
- Joined: Oct 26, 2006
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
OF COURSE! On my F*cking off day the game is postponed/cancelled F*cking figures.
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 36,057
- And1: 9,437
- Joined: Jul 12, 2003
- Location: Boardman gets paid!
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
Presumably a full season of Berrios is also a significant add. I'm not sure how much better a team can get than 91 wins. Presumably in that 96-98 win range wouldn't be "much improved" but would still be a major contender anyway. The Jays were already very good. Just "slightly improved" is enough to really make some noise.Raps in 4 wrote:polo007 wrote:Rosenthal: Does Anthony Rizzo have regrets about his contract? What’s the best Wander Franco memory? – The Athletic• One rival official is not convinced the Jays are much-improved over 2021, reasoning that it will be difficult for Matt Chapman to perform better than Marcus Semien, and for Kevin Gausman and Yusei Kikuchi to perform better than Robbie Ray and Steven Matz.
Fair points, but one significant difference this season is that the Jays will play all their home games, as opposed to Dunedin (10-11 last season), Buffalo (12-11) and Toronto (25-11). Unvaccinated players are currently prohibited from playing in Toronto, per border restrictions that only allow fully vaccinated travelers into Canada. Teams can put those players on the restricted list during the series.
The Jays’ early schedule, though, appears difficult. Sixteen of their 22 games in April are against the Yankees, Red Sox and Astros, and only six of those are at home. Their other six games in the opening month are at home against the Rangers and A’s.
The Jays don't need to better than last year to be better than everyone but the Rays in the division. We grossly underperformed last year relative to our production.
Bucket! Bucket!
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- Raps in 4
- RealGM
- Posts: 66,634
- And1: 61,550
- Joined: Nov 01, 2008
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
I_Like_Dirt wrote:Presumably a full season of Berrios is also a significant add. I'm not sure how much better a team can get than 91 wins. Presumably in that 96-98 win range wouldn't be "much improved" but would still be a major contender anyway. The Jays were already very good. Just "slightly improved" is enough to really make some noise.Raps in 4 wrote:
The Jays don't need to better than last year to be better than everyone but the Rays in the division. We grossly underperformed last year relative to our production.
We underperformed by 8 games last year, the second worst mark in the majors (our pyth record was 99-63). I think this team should comfortably be able to win more than 91 games this year, even if we see a slight talent drop-off (which isn't guaranteed at all), barring of course more stupidity from Charlie costing us multiple wins.
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- bluerap23
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,143
- And1: 7,289
- Joined: Aug 15, 2012
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
Question: do guys that don't make the 26-man roster get the 700K or do they get a minor league salary? Assuming the latter.
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- Parataxis
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,543
- And1: 5,820
- Joined: Jan 31, 2010
- Location: Penticton, BC
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
bluerap23 wrote:
Question: do guys that don't make the 26-man roster get the 700K or do they get a minor league salary? Assuming the latter.
Wait, so if I'm understanding this correctly, because Bo and Manoah said 'no', they end up getting less money than the Jays were offering?
That doesn't seem to make sense?
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- Cyrus
- Senior Mod - Raptors
- Posts: 36,311
- And1: 4,168
- Joined: Jun 15, 2001
- Location: Is taking his talents to South Beach!
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
Parataxis wrote:bluerap23 wrote:
Question: do guys that don't make the 26-man roster get the 700K or do they get a minor league salary? Assuming the latter.
Wait, so if I'm understanding this correctly, because Bo and Manoah said 'no', they end up getting less money than the Jays were offering?
That doesn't seem to make sense?
Its to send a message they didn't like our "offer" based on their seasons last year. Bo was an allstar and Manoah was in the rookie race (Don't know where he finished).
But we just follow our pre-arb scale to a T, and have since I can remember, so they don't want to set the precedent. Remember similar thing happened with Aaron Sanchez, I believe he was coming off a year when he had the best ERA in AL, and was in Cy young voting, and we offered the standard pre-arb raise, and they rejected (His agent was Boras at the time, and I recall him complaining about it in his Boras way)
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- Junior
- Posts: 282
- And1: 47
- Joined: Nov 02, 2014
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
I feel like jays could have offered 100k more and they still would have reacted the same. The lockout was literally just lifted and terms agreed to. Pretty annoying stand to take
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- InfraRedshaw
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 852
- And1: 818
- Joined: Nov 23, 2012
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
Would any of yall be down to join a Yahoo fantasy league?
$20 CAD buy in!
Last year we were just an 8 man league but looking to get up to 10 or 12
Weekly head to head (runs, home runs, RBI, stolen bases, batting average, grand slams - wins, complete games, saves, strike outs, ERA, WHIP)
Pretty casual league and open to advice on scoring and really any other settings, all Canadian folks so there is a premium on Jays players
Hit me up if so, and LETS GO JAYS!
Also frig the yankees, rays, red sox, rangers, royals, guardians
$20 CAD buy in!
Last year we were just an 8 man league but looking to get up to 10 or 12
Weekly head to head (runs, home runs, RBI, stolen bases, batting average, grand slams - wins, complete games, saves, strike outs, ERA, WHIP)
Pretty casual league and open to advice on scoring and really any other settings, all Canadian folks so there is a premium on Jays players

Hit me up if so, and LETS GO JAYS!
Also frig the yankees, rays, red sox, rangers, royals, guardians

Just 8* years ago Andrea Bargnani was my franchise player, you MF'ers can't rain on my parade
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
- TR50
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,558
- And1: 1,225
- Joined: Dec 19, 2004
-
Re: Official Spring Training 2022 thread.
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,344
- And1: 3,039
- Joined: Nov 02, 2006